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  • Oviedo
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    • May 2008
    • 23776

    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
    I also said 4 years ago, "at least 28 out of the 32 NFL head coaches will not win a chip in the next 4 years." How's that looking?

    damn I'm smart.

    Boom.......
    I predict that only one HC will will the Super Bowl next year...the other 31 won't. So he is the only coach who shouldn't be fired...according to some people's warped logic that winning a Super Bowl is the only metric.
    "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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    • Joel Buchsbaum
      Legend
      • Jan 2021
      • 7603

      Originally posted by Oviedo
      I predict that only one HC will will the Super Bowl next year...the other 31 won't. So he is the only coach who shouldn't be fired...according to some people's warped logic that winning a Super Bowl is the only metric.
      In the past 10 season, 120 coaches made the playoffs and had a shot to make the suer bowl, Tomlin didn't advance to the game despite numerous chances. 20 other times other coaches did, some more than once. Do you want to wait another 10 years? That is the track we are on.

      Are you happy with being 3-7 in the last ten playoff games played, Oviedo?

      Again, the metric should be winning playoff games, as that is the only way to advance to a super bowl.
      Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 04-22-2021, 08:00 AM.
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • whatever
        Legend
        • Sep 2019
        • 5789

        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
        In the past 10 season, 120 coaches made the playoffs and had a shot to make the suer bowl, Tomlin didn't advance to the game despite numerous chances. 20 other times other coaches did, some more than once. Do you want to wait another 10 years? That is the track we are on.

        Are you happy with being 3-7 in the last ten playoff games played, Oviedo?

        Again, the metric should be winning playoff games, as that is the only way to advance to a super bowl.
        Ovi already admitted in the past that he is happy being competitive and doesn’t really care about winning in the post season.
        Differential fans have different expectations. We’ll never understand being happy with competitive and they will never understand expecting playing to your talent level.
        How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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        • Joel Buchsbaum
          Legend
          • Jan 2021
          • 7603

          Originally posted by whatever
          Yet when Ben plays well, the Tomlin fans want to point to Tomlin and give him the credit.
          So I guess it’s a trade off. Tomlin lovers want to give him the credit, Tomlin haters want to give him the blame.
          The " Tomlin lovers " fail to tell me how he's giving his team the edge. He's not. His decisions on when to kick or go for it, are lacking. His clock management still sucks. I see next to zero side line coaching. He looses too often to .500 and below teams, and is poor and upset too often on the road. Can he keep his diva players in check? No they walk on him. Can he hire a good OC? Heck know, he knows little about offense. What's is his value? Someone please tell me what he's good at besides talking to the media, who often throws him softballs.


          Ben is in decline. how many 40 year old QB's have there been that are among the 10 best in the NFL? Very few, maybe Brady. The best thing I can say is Ben is playing for a cap reasonable amount. Thanks Ben, but make no mistake about it the " Tomlin lovers " will blame him for the losses. Tomln himself seldom takes the blame.
          Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 04-22-2021, 08:22 AM.
          Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

          Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

          *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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          • whatever
            Legend
            • Sep 2019
            • 5789

            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
            I tried having a second account for a week and a half.

            posts like the one above will only continue our feud which was caused by you saying this about my Mom:



            my mother is currently in hospice, the doctor said she probably has two weeks left to live.

            instead of apologizing for what you said so this feud can end for the betterment of this message board you continue to make it worse.
            Why don’t you show how much of a bigger person you are and quit violating board rules by stalking, and ridiculing instead of asking someone else to step up?
            How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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            • Joel Buchsbaum
              Legend
              • Jan 2021
              • 7603

              Originally posted by whatever
              Ovi already admitted in the past that he is happy being competitive and doesn’t really care about winning in the post season.
              Differential fans have different expectations. We’ll never understand being happy with competitive and they will never understand expecting playing to your talent level.
              100%. If were Cleveland, maybe I could get him just being happy with competitive football. This is the Pittsburgh Steelers. We have a rich history and a higher standard. I expect to win playoff games, especially with the talent we have. We the team wins 8 or 9 games this season, I'll check back in with Ovi to see if he's still happy.
              Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

              Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

              *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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              • Northern_Blitz
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                • Dec 2008
                • 23985

                Anyway, I assume that we've said all we're going to say on Tomlin here.

                And it's probably not wise to keep saying the same things over and over in the same thread. Not that it's stopped me before <insert shame emoji>.

                So, I'm going to try to be out on this one so I can enjoy the draft talk. Unless there's some new argument that I see...which I think is pretty unlikely at this point. I'll think of it as a test of willpower.

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                • Oviedo
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 23776

                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                  Anyway, I assume that we've said all we're going to say on Tomlin here.

                  And it's probably not wise to keep saying the same things over and over in the same thread. Not that it's stopped me before <insert shame emoji>.

                  So, I'm going to try to be out on this one so I can enjoy the draft talk. Unless there's some new argument that I see...which I think is pretty unlikely at this point. I'll think of it as a test of willpower.
                  Yep...last post on this thread.
                  "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27222

                    Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                    Anyway, I assume that we've said all we're going to say on Tomlin here.

                    And it's probably not wise to keep saying the same things over and over in the same thread. Not that it's stopped me before <insert shame emoji>.

                    So, I'm going to try to be out on this one so I can enjoy the draft talk. Unless there's some new argument that I see...which I think is pretty unlikely at this point. I'll think of it as a test of willpower.
                    It was entertaining for the first day or 2.. lol.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • Mr.wizard
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                      • May 2014
                      • 6617

                      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                      In the past 10 season, 120 coaches made the playoffs and had a shot to make the suer bowl, Tomlin didn't advance to the game despite numerous chances. 20 other times other coaches did, some more than once. Do you want to wait another 10 years? That is the track we are on.

                      Are you happy with being 3-7 in the last ten playoff games played, Oviedo?

                      Again, the metric should be winning playoff games, as that is the only way to advance to a super bowl.
                      No that shouldn' t be the metric, how can finishing first in the division and making the playoffs not be the metric, that clearly has to happen before you can get to the Superbowl?

                      The problem is that you havent established that coaching is the reason we are losing in the playoffs and that bringing in a new coach would propel us to a Superbowl.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35315

                        Originally posted by whatever
                        Why don’t you show how much of a bigger person you are and quit violating board rules by stalking, and ridiculing instead of asking someone else to step up?
                        why don't you show how much of a bigger person you are by not violating board rules and leaving instead of being on this message board after you have already been banned?

                        I mean really, wouldn't you say that returning to this board after being banned is a slap in the face to the mods here and a clear violation of this message board's rules?

                        you're the last guy here who should ever bring up the subject of violating board rules.
                        Last edited by hawaiiansteel; 04-22-2021, 11:52 AM.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35315

                          Originally posted by Oviedo
                          I predict that only one HC will will the Super Bowl next year...the other 31 won't. So he is the only coach who shouldn't be fired...according to some people's warped logic that winning a Super Bowl is the only metric.
                          people who predict Tomlin won't win a Super Bowl every year crack me up.

                          31 out of 32 NFL teams won't win it, or 96.875% of them. this means every team only has a 3.125% chance of winning.

                          way to go out on a limb with that prediction and then patting yourself on the back afterwards

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27222

                            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                            people who predict Tomlin won't win a Super Bowl every year crack me up.

                            31 out of 32 NFL teams won't win it, or 96.875% of them. this means every team only has a 3.125% chance of winning.

                            way to go out on a limb with that prediction and then patting yourself on the back afterwards
                            taking the field is so brave.. lol.

                            especially when the team has a 39 year old QB and had to move on from a few key players due to cap constraints.

                            now, how about guaranteeing we miss the playoffs next year? Doubt he would take that chance.
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • NorthCoast
                              Legend
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 26225

                              let's hope for some vintage play by Roethlisberger this season... man I miss some of his game..... enjoy;

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                              • hawaiiansteel
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 35315

                                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                                Has no bearing weather Cowher wanted Ben or not.
                                I'm not sure whether or not the weather will change.

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