Tomlin

[Northern_Blitz]

Agree. He should have been fired long ago too

Fair enough.

At least you're using consistent logic.

But you did ask for an example implying that it was unheard of. But as always Peyton offers what is essentially a mirror of Tomlin's career.

I'm glad that you agree that it's not unheard of to hold on to coaches that lead consistently competitive teams even if they don't end up winning the single game elimination tournament.

[Northern_Blitz]

Maybe Tomlin, the great defensive coach, can come up with a way not to give up 93 points in the next 2 playoff games

Limiting turnovers would help with this.

As would turning injuries off in the settings menu.

[SteelBucks]

Maybe Tomlin, the great defensive coach, can come up with a way not to give up 93 points in the next 2 playoff games

And prevent players from blowing out their knees and contracting Covid.

[feltdizz]

The reason I am moving on is I love the Pittsburgh Steelers .I have been a fan since Buzz Butter was the center and John Henry Johnson was the RB. I know when Ben goes we will wander for a period of time, perhaps 10 years while we get whipped by the Browns and the Bengals because the Rooney's will still make money. I think Tomlin is a good coach in todays NFL. I am not into the politic end of the NFL. If Tomlin loves Hillary Clinton. I don't care, I don't want to know about it. Being woke is being Democrat and that is their business but don't make it mine. I just want to enjoy a few more years of the Pittsburgh Steelers with my QB who ain't woke. Who hunts, fishes, and supports the police. I don't want to wander in the desert for 10 years for a bunch of woke losers.

No disrespect but you sound a bit off. One too many wokes in a post

Who was born first, the chicken or the woke?

Why did the chicken cross the street? To get WOKE!!!

Seriously dude, who cares if Ben hunts and fishes or golfs in his bare feet. None of that stuff matters on Sunday.

This country is so far obsessed with politics these days. If you don’t care why keep bringing it up?

Knock knock.
Who is there?

Its Woke b!tchez!!

[feltdizz]

Maybe Tomlin, the great defensive coach, can come up with a way not to give up 93 points in the next 2 playoff games

if Tomlin stops turning the ball over 7 times in those 2 games he should be able to do it.

[Terrapin]

Limiting turnovers would help with this.

As would turning injuries off in the settings menu.

I always thought that injuries were part of the game and all teams and coaches deal with them? Guess it's just Mike Tomlin. Thanks for setting me straight.

[Oviedo]

Six pages in record time. I got my popcorn out...

It is fun to see posters realize their opinions mean nothing and still try to act like they are experienced NFL insiders

[Terrapin]

Fair enough.

At least you're using consistent logic.

But you did ask for an example implying that it was unheard of. But as always Peyton offers what is essentially a mirror of Tomlin's career.

I'm glad that you agree that it's not unheard of to hold on to coaches that lead consistently competitive teams even if they don't end up winning the single game elimination tournament.

It's not unheard of. As someone else pointed out, the Dolphins held onto Shula for far too long. We probably held onto Noll for too long. But again, I don't recall those teams collapsing in humiliating fashion year after year after year. The Dolphins and Steelers in the 80s also had a severe lack of talent. Tomlin has had a ton of All Pros and multiple hall of famers

[hawaiiansteel]

It's not unheard of. As someone else pointed out, the Dolphins held onto Shula for far too long.

how many Super Bowls have the Dolphins played in since Shula left?

[Northern_Blitz]

I always thought that injuries were part of the game and all teams and coaches deal with them? Guess it's just Mike Tomlin. Thanks for setting me straight.

Injuries are certainly part of the game.

And I think you're absolutely kidding yourself if you think they don't play a critical role in determining who wins the single elimination tournament that happens at the end of every football season.

This is part of the enormous benefit provided by having a good QB on a rookie deal. It allows you to be more resilient to injuries because you have the cap space to have (i) more impact players and (ii) higher quality depth.

Part of this could be improved by better load management. I've long been critical of Tomlin's apparent reliance on a single work horse back instead of having more of a committee. And in not sharing carries with Blount when he was here, which led to his departure, which was crippling to the run game after Bell got hurt in the playoffs. We'll never know, but that cascade of events may have cost us a trip to the SB.

[feltdizz]

It's not unheard of. As someone else pointed out, the Dolphins held onto Shula for far too long. We probably held onto Noll for too long. But again, I don't recall those teams collapsing in humiliating fashion year after year after year. The Dolphins and Steelers in the 80s also had a severe lack of talent. Tomlin has had a ton of All Pros and multiple hall of famers

and we made 2 SB’s with Tomlin and won 1.

What has the Phins done since Shula left? Hell, what did they do since Shula’s last SB appearance?

[feltdizz]

It is fun to see posters realize their opinions mean nothing and still try to act like they are experienced NFL insiders

its hilarious..

they have blamed:
Dolphin fans
Wokeness
Hillary Clinton
Lack of hunting by Tomlin and the Rooneys

they are losing their minds. I love it.

[Northern_Blitz]

It's not unheard of. As someone else pointed out, the Dolphins held onto Shula for far too long. We probably held onto Noll for too long. But again, I don't recall those teams collapsing in humiliating fashion year after year after year. The Dolphins and Steelers in the 80s also had a severe lack of talent. Tomlin has had a ton of All Pros and multiple hall of famers

Do you think Andy Reid was a good hire for KC?

If so, why?

By the criteria used for evaluation here, he was obviously a has been (or maybe a never was).

Before being hired in KC, he had been a HC for almost a decade and a half. He only made it to one SB, which his team lost in embarrassing fashion with his QB throwing up on the sidelines. Sure he made the playoffs a bunch, but he was 10 / 19, lost his last two playoff games and then missed the playoffs 2 years in a row (winning a total of 12 games in those 2 seasons).

Even in his first 6 seasons in KC we see more of the same. Sure they made it to the playoffs in 5 of those years, but but they were 2 / 7 in those games.

Should have been fired at that point, right? But he went to the next 2 SBs and won one of them.

The problem with trying to make decisions / evaluations like this is that it requires knowledge of the future.

[feltdizz]

Do you think Andy Reid was a good hire for KC?

If so, why?

By the criteria used for evaluation here, he was obviously a has been (or maybe a never was).

The problem with trying to make decisions / evaluations like this is that it requires knowledge of the future.

doesn’t matter.

These people just hate Tomlin so they will always use other teams success as proof he is a failure.

However, when those teams fail we don’t hear jack because people don’t have emotional ties to these teams AND most of these fans are front runners.

They type who only see the wins and ignore the losses of coaches and teams they reference as examples.

[steelerkeylargo]

Didn't those guys win superbowls far more recent than Tomlin has? I think so, and they won with their own players, not Bill Cowher's.

Far more recent?
Payton 2010
Tomlin 2011
Harbaugh 2012
Carroll 2013