Tomlin

[flippy]

Let's just enjoy the rebuild and us finding our QB of the future. We'll be ready in about 4 years to do something significant. Hang tough Joel.

This has to be some of the best logic in board history. Tomlin can’t and won’t ever win a SuperBowl, but in 4 years time he will develop our next great franchise QB and develop the team to a level of being on the cusp of winning a SuperBowl. And then Rooney will fire him and hand the team to someone else at that point.

Bottom line in this logic, Rooney extends someone for 3 years when they don’t deserve it. And he will fire someone when they don’t deserve.

In some bizarro world this makes sense in a strangely poetic and insightful way.

Well played.

["BuzzNuter"]

Someone mentioned that a 3 yr extension means he will have to go without Ben. Who knows if Ben rededicates himself per Skip Bayless maybe he can play until he's 43. I personally don't want to see Ben go. In 3 years h*'ll the Steelers may have guys dressed up as chicks being cheerleaders. Won't that be "Woke"

[Steel Maniac]

wait.. so once that got rid of Shula they should’ve had success right?

You certainly aren’t suggesting holding onto Shula hurt Miami for the next 30 years. lol.

Your example is horrible. Why not pick a team that changed coaches and then won a SB? You really don’t see the flaw in your example?

Let me help you....

Once you see a coach has lost it (in Shula's case) you have to move on. So you just sit there 22 years after the fact and continue to hold on to nothing???? Change is always difficult my friend; and moving on to find the good head coach for your francise is difficult...but necessary none the less.

The example I'm using is how a fanbase stayed delusional for what a guy did over 20 years prior. They held on to him too long by an entire decade....thus passing on coaches who could have possibly brought them back. When you hold on to something too long, you let other viable opportunities (coaches) pass you by. That's where the dolphins made their mistake.

[feltdizz]

Why is Tomlin hosting a dinner for one of the most despicable people on the planet?

Because his politics are his business..

same is said about those who support other candidates.

What does Tomlin’s politics have to do with coaching the team? If you think Clinton is the worst person on the planet I’m sure you probably like candidates that others feel are just as bad or worse. Doesn’t matter tho.. lol.

[Steel Maniac]

This has to be some of the best logic in board history. Tomlin can’t and won’t ever win a SuperBowl, but in 4 years time he will develop our next great franchise QB and develop the team to a level of being on the cusp of winning a SuperBowl. And then Rooney will fire him and hand the team to someone else at that point.

Bottom line in this logic, Rooney extends someone for 3 years when they don’t deserve it. And he will fire someone when they don’t deserve.

In some bizarro world this makes sense in a strangely poetic and insightful way.

Well played.

Flippy, I"m only saying what I see. We know damn well Tomlin can't win with a stacked team...so how can he win with teams that will be nowhere near as good as the 2017-2018 teams?

He will faceplant over the next 3 years regardless. Thus, cementing a 15 legacy of faceplanting.

[Steel Maniac]

Flippy, I"m only saying what I see. We know damn well Tomlin can't win with a stacked team...so how can he win with teams that will be nowhere near as good as the 2017-2018 teams?

He will faceplant over the next 3 years regardless. Thus, cementing a 15 legacy of faceplanting.

I hope they tack on another 5 years behind the 3 they just gave him. Let's make it an even 20 years of nothing. Let's catch Don Shula!!!!! Yeah Tomlin!!!!!!!

[feltdizz]

Let me help you....

Once you see a coach has lost it (in Shula's case) you have to move on. So you just sit there 22 years after the fact and continue to hold on to nothing???? Change is always difficult my friend; and moving on to find the good head coach for your francise is difficult...but necessary none the less.

The example I'm using is how a fanbase stayed delusional for what a guy did over 20 years prior. They held on to him too long by an entire decade....thus passing on coaches who could have possibly brought them back. When you hold on to something too long, you let other viable opportunities (coaches) pass you by. That's where the dolphins made their mistake.

No, you have to show evidence of Miami making a SB without Shula. If they couldn’t find another head coach in 25 years to make a SB its not because of the extra 10 with Shula.

They are just picking the wrong coaches.. and players.

All you are showing is Miami doesn’t have a history of SB successors after Shula.

Now, you can always use fantasy and imagination to suggest they would have another SB victory without Shula but history is not on tour side.

Once again you are telling us to trust your prediction and not the actual evidence provided. Just like telling us Tomlin was on his way out. We were supposed to trust you and not the Rooneys.

[hawaiiansteel]

Let me help you....

Once you see a coach has lost it (in Shula's case) you have to move on.

no, let me help you....

how have the Dolphins done since Shula left? no Super Bowl wins or even appearances, that's how.

if you don't see how your example makes no sense whatsoever and actually implies that the Steelers won't ever win a Super Bowl again once Tomlin is gone like the Dolphins haven't won anything since Shula departed then you're just obtuse.

like feltdizz said, you should have used an example of a team who got rid of their coach and actually won a Super Bowl instead of a team that hasn't done squat ever since.

[feltdizz]

This has to be some of the best logic in board history. Tomlin can’t and won’t ever win a SuperBowl, but in 4 years time he will develop our next great franchise QB and develop the team to a level of being on the cusp of winning a SuperBowl. And then Rooney will fire him and hand the team to someone else at that point.

Bottom line in this logic, Rooney extends someone for 3 years when they don’t deserve it. And he will fire someone when they don’t deserve.

In some bizarro world this makes sense in a strangely poetic and insightful way.

Well played.

Same person will dump on the Rooneys and them turn around and say they trust the process and trust our ownership.

Its just weird but its what SM has to do to not admit being wrong.

This is what happens when a person backs themselves into a corner.. any positive talk about the team is counter to their original argument so its just an endless cycle of hypocrisy followed up with random Don Shula references.. and ball washing.

[feltdizz]

I knew this news would bring out the crazy.

I am entertained.

[Steel Maniac]

no, let me help you....

how have the Dolphins done since Shula left? no Super Bowl wins or even appearances, that's how.

if you don't see how your example makes no sense whatsoever and actually implies that the Steelers won't ever win a Super Bowl again once Tomlin is gone like the Dolphins haven't won anything since Shula departed then you're just obtuse.

No...your putting things in that I didn't say.

The Shula example is an example of a fanbase enamored with what a coach did 20 years prior.

They held on too long and it set that franchise back years. That's all that example implies. Nothing more, nothing less.

*** They havn't won anything since Shula because they waited too long to fire him. I don't see why you can't get that. You delay your blessings (getting a good coach) by holding on to the past for too long.

Now they have Flores and he's doing a good job. That team is on the rise big time. Yeah they kissed a couple of frogs along the way (Adam Gase) but it took this long because they held on to a relic for too long in Shula.

[flippy]

Flippy, I"m only saying what I see. We know damn well Tomlin can't win with a stacked team...so how can he win with teams that will be nowhere near as good as the 2017-2018 teams?

He will faceplant over the next 3 years regardless. Thus, cementing a 15 legacy of faceplanting.

That part that’s bizarre is that you believe Tomlin will find and develop our next Franchise QB.

How do you see that happening?

I think your frustration is more with ownership than Tomlin. Not Tomlin’s fault they gave him another contract.

How do you decide it’s time to give up on someone vs give them more time? I bet the Browns wish they held on to Bill B forever. They let a guy some argue is a great coach go too soon.

Did we let BA go too soon?

How do you ever know?

The one thing I suspect is it’s more on your QB than your head coach. And the other side of this argument is Ben hasn’t been good enough to win a SuperBowl and we have to wait him out.

The only way we’ll really find anything out is if Ben leaves and Tomlin stays.

Another thought is how do we even know how Rooney really feels? Maybe keeping Tomlin just sends a signal to the team and future FAs about belief and consistency and we’ll keep some guys like TJ or Minkah that might have left if Tomlin was gone???

[Buzz]

Someone mentioned that a 3 yr extension means he will have to go without Ben. Who knows if Ben rededicates himself per Skip Bayless maybe he can play until he's 43. I personally don't want to see Ben go. In 3 years h*'ll the Steelers may have guys dressed up as chicks being cheerleaders. Won't that be "Woke"

Maybe Tomlin signed up for 3 more years because he believes Ben will be here for 3 more years.

[SteelBucks]

I knew this news would bring out the crazy.

I am entertained.

Six pages in record time. I got my popcorn out...

[feltdizz]

No...your putting things in that I didn't say.

The Shula example is an example of a fanbase enamored with what a coach did 20 years prior.

They held on too long and it set that franchise back years. That's all that example implies. Nothing more, nothing less.

*** They havn't won anything since Shula because they waited too long to fire him. I don't see why you can't get that. You delay your blessings (getting a good coach) by holding on to the past for too long.

Now they have Flores and he's doing a good job. That team is on the rise big time. Yeah they kissed a couple of frogs along the way (Adam Gase) but it took this long because they held on to a relic for too long in Shula.

so holding onto Shula is how they got Adam Gase?

lmao..

no, you are just making up an alternative reality.

This is what happens when fans don’t like a coach. They think removing that coach brings instant SB success. It doesn’t. If it did you would see Cleveland with 30 SB’s in the last 15 years.

But how seriously did you even follow Miami from 86 to 95? You threw this out there but have given no history, no team stats or roster changes.

Just because you came up with what you believe is a great example (again, its horrible) doesn’t make it true. It just makes you awful at picking scenarios that support your argument.