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  • Joel Buchsbaum
    Legend
    • Jan 2021
    • 7603

    #31
    Originally posted by Oviedo
    What ownership issues?
    Our owner has major issues valuing politics over winning and can't seem to see his head coaches's flaws, which will become more apparent as Ben declines. That's right politics. Tomlin only hosted Hillary Clinton campaign in his house ordered and his team to vote on whether to come out of not for a game with a Bears ( And lost due partly the distractions per Ben). NEVER mix politics and football. His father was made an ambassador of Ireland. His father knew football. His son, I think isn't half the man he is. It's an open secert that many Steeler minority owners want a better head coach. With Tomlin extended three years, which is two years longer than our last playoff win, this team is going to bottom out.

    Bottoming out should be no playoff wins for 5 seasons for the Steelers. New flash, that is happening. What sane owner would give a head coach a 3 year extension oder those terms? Examples please.

    Free agency bleed this team thin, our schedule is brutal. We only play 5 playoff teams on the road next year. How's that going to work out for us? The OL and DB's are a mess, and it could take two full good drafts to re-bound. And Ben is approaching 40. Haskins and Rudy will get you no where. Don't assume Tomlin know how to hire an assistant, he doesn't. The flee from us or he makes them the scapegoat after hiring that person. His mistake.

    Now can someone please tell me what he did to deserve a 3 year extension?
    Last edited by Joel Buchsbaum; 04-20-2021, 11:53 AM.
    Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

    Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

    *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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    • Joel Buchsbaum
      Legend
      • Jan 2021
      • 7603

      #32
      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
      No need to wait...it ain't hard.

      Pete Carol- just got extended to 2025.
      Harbaugh- thought by many to have the most talent in the league.
      Sean Peyton

      Pretty much any long term coach not named Belichick.
      Didn't those guys win superbowls far more recent than Tomlin has? I think so, and they won with their own players, not Bill Cowher's.
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • Terrapin
        Pro Bowler
        • Sep 2017
        • 2063

        #33
        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
        No need to wait...it ain't hard.

        Pete Carol- just got extended to 2025.
        Harbaugh- thought by many to have the most talent in the league.
        Sean Peyton

        Pretty much any long term coach not named Belichick.
        There is a significant difference between losing a game, being upset, and completely imploding. A coach should be forgiven for one implosion. Maybe 2. But multiple years in a row?

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27222

          #34
          Originally posted by Terrapin
          Tomlin can go 0-16 for the next decade and 'Woke' Rooney will still extend him. Absolutely insane to keep extending a guy who's teams implode every year
          I’ve noticed people using woke as a dig lately.. its telling when people do so.

          The simple fact is Tomlin has a high winning percentage and until he has a few losing seasons there is really no reason to entertain 0-16 as an example.
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          • feltdizz
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 27222

            #35
            Originally posted by Oviedo
            Wow!!! Now the Rooney's need to prove they are "woke." Having one of the most successful franchises in the NFL means nothing. Clear where you are coming from.
            nah.. the Rooney Rule, hiring Tomlin and supporting Tomlin are all examples of being “woke”

            being called “woke” is just the new “racial epitaph lover” insult.
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            • Terrapin
              Pro Bowler
              • Sep 2017
              • 2063

              #36
              Originally posted by feltdizz
              I’ve noticed people using woke as a dig lately.. its telling when people do so.

              The simple fact is Tomlin has a high winning percentage and until he has a few losing seasons there is really no reason to entertain 0-16 as an example.
              I don't consider 'woke' as just a 'dig'. I consider it an insult and find the entire 'woke' culture pathetic

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                #37
                Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                Didn't those guys win superbowls far more recent than Tomlin has? I think so, and they won with their own players, not Bill Cowher's.
                Joel,

                Giving Tomlin three more years to constantly underachieve will make it a solid 15 years of nothing from him. Thus, all the Tomlin supporters will look just like all the Dolphin fans who were still ball washing Shula in the 1990's for what he did in the 1970"s. We won't be winning anything so for the next 3 years, enjoy the rebuild like me. Plus, I get to see Tomlin face plant another 3 years which puts egg on the faces of the Tomlin supporters.

                Win/win in my book. Then in 4 years we should be ready to contend (provided we find our QB of the future). It's all good.

                Tomlin, 3 more years!!!! Yeah!!!!!!

                **** And I get to add a new year to my classic signature as well. What's not to like?

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                • feltdizz
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 27222

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                  Our owner has major issues valuing politics over winning and can't seem to see his head coaches's flaws, which will become more apparent as Ben declines. That's right politics. Tomlin only hosted Hillary Clinton campaign in his house ordered and his team to vote on whether to come out of not for a game with a Bears ( And lost due partly the distractions per Ben). NEVER mix politics and football. His father was made an ambassador of Ireland. His father knew football. His son, I think isn't half the man he is. It's an open secert that many Steeler minority owners want a better head coach. With Tomlin extended three years, which is two years longer than our last playoff win, this team is going to bottom out.

                  Bottoming out should be no playoff wins for 5 seasons for the Steelers. New flash, that is happening. What sane owner would give a head coach a 3 year extension oder those terms? Examples please.

                  Free agency bleed this team thin, our schedule is brutal. We only play 5 playoff teams on the road next year. How's that going to work out for us? The OL and DB's are a mess, and it could take two full good drafts to re-bound. And Ben is approaching 40. Haskins and Rudy will get you no where. Don't assume Tomlin know how to hire an assistant, he doesn't. The flee from us or he makes them the scapegoat after hiring that person. His mistake.

                  Now can someone please tell me what he did to deserve a 3 year extension?
                  I can barely understand what you are trying to say.

                  Tomlin hosted a Clinton fundraiser? Was it during a game? If not.. who cares

                  We lost a game in Chicago because of the anthem? lmao.. okay.

                  Once again we lose all these games because of Tomlin yet he has one of the highest winning percentages ever for a coach with 15 years in the league.

                  What people like you are really saying is Tomlin doesn’t win EVERY game so he sucks.
                  Steelers 27
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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27222

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Terrapin
                    I don't consider 'woke' as just a 'dig'. I consider it an insult and find the entire 'woke' culture pathetic
                    check the reply above yours.. I know exactly what it is these days.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • Oviedo
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 23776

                      #40
                      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                      Our owner has major issues valuing politics over winning and can't seem to see his head coaches's flaws, which will become more apparent as Ben declines. That's right politics. Tomlin only hosted Hillary Clinton campaign in his house ordered and his team to vote on whether to come out of not for a game with a Bears ( And lost due partly the distractions per Ben). NEVER mix politics and football. His father was made an ambassador of Ireland. His father knew football. His son, I think isn't half the man he is. It's an open secert that many Steeler minority owners want a better head coach. With Tomlin extended three years, which is two years longer than our last playoff win, this team is going to bottom out.

                      Bottoming out should be no playoff wins for 5 seasons for the Steelers. New flash, that is happening. What sane owner would give a head coach a 3 year extension oder those terms? Examples please.

                      Free agency bleed this team thin, our schedule is brutal. We only play 5 playoff teams on the road next year. How's that going to work out for us? The OL and DB's are a mess, and it could take two full good drafts to re-bound. And Ben is approaching 40. Haskins and Rudy will get you no where. Don't assume Tomlin know how to hire an assistant, he doesn't. The flee from us or he makes them the scapegoat after hiring that person. His mistake.

                      Now can someone please tell me what he did to deserve a 3 year extension?
                      Complete non-sensical bull. If you think the owner doesn't care and the coach is terrible perhaps you should find another team because neither is changing to fit your distorted world view
                      "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27222

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                        Joel,

                        Giving Tomlin three more years to constantly underachieve will make it a solid 15 years of nothing from him. Thus, all the Tomlin supporters will look just like all the Dolphin fans who were still ball washing Shula in the 1990's for what he did in the 1970"s. We won't be winning anything so for the next 3 years, enjoy the rebuild like me. Plus, I get to see Tomlin face plant another 3 years which puts egg on the faces of the Tomlin supporters.

                        Win/win in my book. Then in 4 years we should be ready to contend (provided we find our QB of the future). It's all good.

                        Tomlin, 3 more years!!!! Yeah!!!!!!

                        **** And I get to add a new year to my classic signature as well. What's not to like?
                        and the Dolphins have won what since Shula?

                        So you are “ball washing” all the Phins coaches who failed after Shula? That is a lot of balls my friend..

                        You must buy your soap in bulk from Costco
                        Steelers 27
                        Rats 16

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                          Our owner has major issues valuing politics over winning and can't seem to see his head coaches's flaws, which will become more apparent as Ben declines. That's right politics. Tomlin only hosted Hillary Clinton campaign in his house ordered and his team to vote on whether to come out of not for a game with a Bears ( And lost due partly the distractions per Ben). NEVER mix politics and football. His father was made an ambassador of Ireland. His father knew football. His son, I think isn't half the man he is. It's an open secert that many Steeler minority owners want a better head coach. With Tomlin extended three years, which is two years longer than our last playoff win, this team is going to bottom out.

                          Bottoming out should be no playoff wins for 5 seasons for the Steelers. New flash, that is happening. What sane owner would give a head coach a 3 year extension oder those terms? Examples please.

                          Free agency bleed this team thin, our schedule is brutal. We only play 5 playoff teams on the road next year. How's that going to work out for us? The OL and DB's are a mess, and it could take two full good drafts to re-bound. And Ben is approaching 40. Haskins and Rudy will get you no where. Don't assume Tomlin know how to hire an assistant, he doesn't. The flee from us or he makes them the scapegoat after hiring that person. His mistake.

                          Now can someone please tell me what he did to deserve a 3 year extension?
                          Could Tomlin win with the stacked team on 2018? No.
                          Could he win with the 2017 team? No. None of the teams he's going to have over the next 3 years will be better than those two teams. So we KNOW he won't be winning anything.

                          Let's just enjoy the rebuild and us finding our QB of the future. We'll be ready in about 4 years to do something significant. Hang tough Joel.

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                          • Steel Maniac
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2017
                            • 19472

                            #43
                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            and the Dolphins have won what since Shula?

                            So you are “ball washing” all the Phins coaches who failed after Shula? That is a lot of balls my friend..

                            You must buy your soap in bulk from Costco
                            Nope. But they were not going to win WITH Shula at that point either. The Dolphins hurt themselves by holding on to a relic a decade too long. That's what hurt the Dolphins; not getting rid of Shula.

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                            • feltdizz
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 27222

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                              Nope. But they were not going to win WITH Shula at that point either. The Dolphins hurt themselves by holding on to a relic a decade too long. That's what hurt the Dolphins; not getting rid of Shula.
                              wait.. so once that got rid of Shula they should’ve had success right?

                              You certainly aren’t suggesting holding onto Shula hurt Miami for the next 30 years. lol.

                              Your example is horrible. Why not pick a team that changed coaches and then won a SB? You really don’t see the flaw in your example?
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                              • Terrapin
                                Pro Bowler
                                • Sep 2017
                                • 2063

                                #45
                                Originally posted by feltdizz
                                I can barely understand what you are trying to say.

                                Tomlin hosted a Clinton fundraiser? Was it during a game? If not.. who cares

                                We lost a game in Chicago because of the anthem? lmao.. okay.

                                Once again we lose all these games because of Tomlin yet he has one of the highest winning percentages ever for a coach with 15 years in the league.

                                What people like you are really saying is Tomlin doesn’t win EVERY game so he sucks.
                                Why is Tomlin hosting a dinner for one of the most despicable people on the planet?

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