Tomlin

[SteelBucks]

If I recall, the only thing Tomlin asked for was unanimity. Do whatever you do, but do it together as a team. That's why they had a team meeting to decide without the coaches.

That’s correct. The coaches were on the sideline during the anthem and the players were in the tunnel...except for AV.

[SteelBucks]

Ahem, Tomlin asked for the vote for team unity. The vote was very close. He had not right to pressure anyone. You want to defy the coach, and risk getting in his dog house or cut?

The team decided to stay in the tunnel. End of story.

Sorry but you can’t pin everything on Tomlin.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Far more recent?
Payton 2010
Tomlin 2011
Harbaugh 2012
Carroll 2013

Re-read what I say, and where can I get my 2011 Steelers champion shirt. I said win.

[Steel Maniac]

That part that’s bizarre is that you believe Tomlin will find and develop our next Franchise QB.

How do you see that happening?

I think your frustration is more with ownership than Tomlin. Not Tomlin’s fault they gave him another contract.

How do you decide it’s time to give up on someone vs give them more time? I bet the Browns wish they held on to Bill B forever. They let a guy some argue is a great coach go too soon.

Did we let BA go too soon?

How do you ever know?

The one thing I suspect is it’s more on your QB than your head coach. And the other side of this argument is Ben hasn’t been good enough to win a SuperBowl and we have to wait him out.

The only way we’ll really find anything out is if Ben leaves and Tomlin stays.

Another thought is how do we even know how Rooney really feels? Maybe keeping Tomlin just sends a signal to the team and future FAs about belief and consistency and we’ll keep some guys like TJ or Minkah that might have left if Tomlin was gone???

Flippy, you ask good questions.

Flippy, I thought it was Canada's job to develop our next QB as well as our passing game. That's why the Rooney's hired him isn't it?

And Flippy, I'm not frustrated at all by Tomlin's extension. I've come to understand that the Rooney's are not interested in winning championships..at least not in the immediate present. Their focused on staying 9-8 going forward. Seats and tickets being sold, gear being sold. Etc.Etc. Rooney's are happy with that. And Tomlin should take an extension if they give it to him. Ownership is happy just being simi-competitive team for right now.

As far as when to let go of a guy; well, when you give a guy great playoff teams of his own making for more than a decade and he can't get the job done, that's a hint and a half that this guy can't get the job done when the playoff teams are only separated by the superior/inferior coaching that they have. Tomlin is not an X's & O's type of coach. Thus, he gets hammered by other coaches in the playoffs who are X's & O's type. It's okay. I"m enjoying us rebuilding our team and the creative excuses some make for Tomlin after every face plant at the end of the year.

I think in another 3-5 years, we'll all be on the same page of wanting him gone. I understand it takes others longer to realize things then some.

But for now, we are all happy with another 3-8 years of Tomlin!!!!! Here we go Steelers, Here we go!!!!

[hawaiiansteel]

I've come to understand that the Rooney's are not interested in winning championships..at least not in the immediate present. Their focused on staying 9-8 going forward.

yes, I'm sure the Rooneys would much rather go 9-8 than win a Super Bowl.

[Oviedo]

its hilarious..

they have blamed:
Dolphin fans
Wokeness
Hillary Clinton
Lack of hunting by Tomlin and the Rooneys

they are losing their minds. I love it.

The truly fun part is they don't realize how foolish they make themselves look with every post trying to defend non defendable positions.

[Steel Maniac]

The truly fun part is they don't realize how foolish they make themselves look with every post trying to defend non defendable positions.

As usual, I see Oviedo is exaggerating. I love it.

[hawaiiansteel]

The truly fun part is they don't realize how foolish they make themselves look with every post trying to defend non defendable positions.

that's why they have their false narratives and sigs that make no sense whatsoever.

[whatever]

Extending a coach who has had epic team collapses lately and is 3-7 in his last 10 playoff games? Why? You tell me. Can you? Still waiting....

Isn't winning playoff games with stacked rosters important to you?

Which head coach with this type of record is this tenured? Tomlin's super bowl ring with Bill Cowher's players was ages ago. 2009. It's now 2021 and counting.

And let's not act like not having a losing record in the AFC north means much. We play the Browns and Bengals twice ever year, they suck. So you should be 3-1 or 4-0, meaning you split then next 14 games and its pretty hard not to gave a winning record. Heck you can go 6-8 in the non in Browns and Bengals games and not have losing record. Easily.

You just need to understand that some fans have much lower expectations than you when it comes to the steelers.

[whatever]

Flippy, you ask good questions.

Flippy, I thought it was Canada's job to develop our next QB as well as our passing game. That's why the Rooney's hired him isn't it?

And Flippy, I'm not frustrated at all by Tomlin's extension. I've come to understand that the Rooney's are not interested in winning championships..at least not in the immediate present. Their focused on staying 9-8 going forward. Seats and tickets being sold, gear being sold. Etc.Etc. Rooney's are happy with that. And Tomlin should take an extension if they give it to him. Ownership is happy just being simi-competitive team for right now.

As far as when to let go of a guy; well, when you give a guy great playoff teams of his own making for more than a decade and he can't get the job done, that's a hint and a half that this guy can't get the job done when the playoff teams are only separated by the superior/inferior coaching that they have. Tomlin is not an X's & O's type of coach. Thus, he gets hammered by other coaches in the playoffs who are X's & O's type. It's okay. I"m enjoying us rebuilding our team and the creative excuses some make for Tomlin after every face plant at the end of the year.

I think in another 3-5 years, we'll all be on the same page of wanting him gone. I understand it takes others longer to realize things then some.

But for now, we are all happy with another 3-8 years of Tomlin!!!!! Here we go Steelers, Here we go!!!!

Another 3-5 years won’t change their minds. They will still be Tomlin fans. They will simply provide more excuses.

[hawaiiansteel]

You just need to understand that some fans have much lower expectations than you when it comes to the steelers.

that's simply not true, I want to win another Super Bowl just as badly as you do.

however, I don't do the hiring and firing and neither do you.

so you can complain about Tomlin all you want, it's not going to do any good.

[whatever]

that's simply not true, I want to win another Super Bowl just as badly as you do.

however, I don't do the hiring and firing and neither do you.

so you can complain about Tomlin all you want, it's not going to do any good.

And you can praise and defend him all you want, that isn’t going to change anything either.

[Steel Maniac]

You just need to understand that some fans have much lower expectations than you when it comes to the steelers.

Exactly. A lot of fans are happy with just winning seasons every year. And that's fine for them.

[Steel Maniac]

Another 3-5 years won’t change their minds. They will still be Tomlin fans. They will simply provide more excuses.

But their excuses won't fly in the reality of 15 years of futility.

[Steel Maniac]

We are all happy with the Tomlin extension (for various reasons). Let's all be on the same page and cheer to it!!