Steelers sing haskins

[feltdizz]

I don't know the exact specifics of this, but the QB should probably know things like down, distance, time remaining, and whether or not the game is over. This sounds like something from a Halmark highschool football movie (which I agree is kind of funny).

I agree that this shouldn't be a huge deal by itself (although I think it's probably worse than Juju dancing which became a thing ).

But with Haskins it does fit the narrative of a guy that hasn't been that dedicated.

Hopefully being laid low and then moving from one of the worst run teams in the league to one of the best helps him find his focus.

I actually think JuJu dancing is worse.. lol

Wasn’t he caught dancing between plays on the field when we were losing at the end of a game?

I’m sure the interim coach wasn’t happy but starting QB’s going in to take the last snap is the weirdest “rule” in football.

I know its probably something QB’s pride themselves on but I think the win is more important than knowing down and distance in garbage time.

If there was like 3 minutes left I see the point but 1 or 2 seconds left? That sounds like nitpicking.

Like when Saban is screaming and red faced with 2 second left in a 30 point win. That is always hilarious to me.. especially because 2 seconds later its a Gatorade splash and big smiles. I know they will say its why Saban wins so much but other coaches do it to and they aren’t winning.

[Northern_Blitz]

I actually think JuJu dancing is worse.. lol

Wasn’t he caught dancing between plays on the field when we were losing at the end of a game?

I’m sure the interim coach wasn’t happy but starting QB’s going in to take the last snap is the weirdest “rule” in football.

I know its probably something QB’s pride themselves on but I think the win is more important than knowing down and distance in garbage time.

If there was like 3 minutes left I see the point but 1 or 2 seconds left? That sounds like nitpicking.

Like when Saban is screaming and red faced with 2 second left in a 30 point win. That is always hilarious to me.. especially because 2 seconds later its a Gatorade splash and big smiles. I know they will say its why Saban wins so much but other coaches do it to and they aren’t winning.

I thought it was only pre-game. If it was in-game, I agree that would be worse because it could be genuinely seen as taunting.

I thought it was only hours before games, and then got stopped because the story became a distraction.

But there are many things I'm trying to forget about last season...

[feltdizz]

I thought it was only pre-game. If it was in-game, I agree that would be worse because it could be genuinely seen as taunting.

I thought it was only hours before games, and then got stopped because the story became a distraction.

But there are many things I'm trying to forget about last season...

someone filmed him dancing during a TV timeout right before the play started.

[Northern_Blitz]

someone filmed him dancing during a TV timeout right before the play started.

Wow...on the logo of the other team's logo?

I missed that.

Maybe because I like Juju and hope we can figure out a reasonable extension.

[Shawn]

Your last sentence says it all. He can have all the otherworldly tools there are, but if he doesn't have it between the ears it is meaningless...and I don't just mean intelligence. The history of the NFL is littered with the names of great physical talents who failed in the NFL.

We don't disagree there. Listen immaturity is real and some guys just don't want it. If you have the tools but don't want it you'll fail. Remember I've followed Haskins on some level since high school. I think he wants it. He was groomed to be a pro QB since before the 5th grade if I recall. By the 8th grade he was considered the best in the country for his age. But, his dad drove that ship. His dad created the brand. Then he goes to tOSU where Meyers has his thumb on him. He knows structure and does well with it. He never navigated life as an independent man. Then he gets drafted to Washington? The cluster F organization without pride, structure, accountability or any proven ability to develop a QB? He's away from Dad, away from Meyers and he has money. He is 16 yo maturity wise. I knew as soon as he was drafted there he would flop early. That's on record here. He's different than other first round flops. I'm telling you I haven't been this impressed with a QB since Mahomes. Haskins is the real deal. I'll take the 3% gamble and say Haskins has the ability to be a franchise QB for us and that if he shows motivation (which I believe he will), he will replace Ben and do so well. The Steelers organization is the perfect organization to mature a young immature but yet talented QB.

[Oviedo]

We don't disagree there. Listen immaturity is real and some guys just don't want it. If you have the tools but don't want it you'll fail. Remember I've followed Haskins on some level since high school. I think he wants it. He was groomed to be a pro QB since before the 5th grade if I recall. By the 8th grade he was considered the best in the country for his age. But, his dad drove that ship. His dad created the brand. Then he goes to tOSU where Meyers has his thumb on him. He knows structure and does well with it. He never navigated life as an independent man. Then he gets drafted to Washington? The cluster F organization without pride, structure, accountability or any proven ability to develop a QB? He's away from Dad, away from Meyers and he has money. He is 16 yo maturity wise. I knew as soon as he was drafted there he would flop early. That's on record here. He's different than other first round flops. I'm telling you I haven't been this impressed with a QB since Mahomes. Haskins is the real deal. I'll take the 3% gamble and say Haskins has the ability to be a franchise QB for us and that if he shows motivation (which I believe he will), he will replace Ben and do so well. The Steelers organization is the perfect organization to mature a young immature but yet talented QB.

I don't disagree with anything you say. I've spent a great deal of my life with 18-30 year men. I can tell you the immature ones usually stay immature mentally and never reach their potential. Also, lets not forget that it was Ron Rivera who cut him. Rivera is not a loser Gase-like coach. He is the real deal. If it was just the previous WFT regime I'd buy all your selling, but the Rivera factor makes me believe less that Haskins can make it.

[NorthCoast]

haha.. that is hilarious.

Honestly, not sure why anyone would be mad at that.

Funny maybe, but eerily prescient.


And I've never heard this kind of thing about a 1st round QB before:

FOX Sports’ Doug Gottlieb reported before the 2020 season that Haskins was so bad at reading the playbook that Washington coaches thought he might be dyslexic.

There is probably some hyperbole here otherwise I would question how the guy could even make it as a QB or even get through college with that kind of mental focus issue. Hopefully the saneness and calmness of the 'Burgh will give him a chance to succeed.

[Shawn]

I don't disagree with anything you say. I've spent a great deal of my life with 18-30 year men. I can tell you the immature ones usually stay immature mentally and never reach their potential. Also, lets not forget that it was Ron Rivera who cut him. Rivera is not a loser Gase-like coach. He is the real deal. If it was just the previous WFT regime I'd buy all your selling, but the Rivera factor makes me believe less that Haskins can make it.

I feel your point on Rivera and I don't disagree. But, I think there are many factors to take into account when he cut Haskins. I'm not sure I would just go to the place where Rivera said this amazing talent is unsalvageable due to his immaturity. It surely wasn't his arm talent. I mean O, when has Ben ever given a complement to another QB in his career? Never? Ben stated he wished he had Haskins arm talent. I mean what does that tell you? I think Rivera knew a few things. Haskins in Washington was a bad fit. I think he knew he needed to establish dominance. Nothing more and nothing less. We will see over the next season or two. But this should be fun to watch. But, I think Haskins is about to make believers out of many. I push all my chips in on this one.

[Shawn]

Funny maybe, but eerily prescient.


And I've never heard this kind of thing about a 1st round QB before:



There is probably some hyperbole here otherwise I would question how the guy could even make it as a QB or even get through college with that kind of mental focus issue. Hopefully the saneness and calmness of the 'Burgh will give him a chance to succeed.

He isn't dyslexic. He truly broke down without structure. He for the first time got to experience freedom after being that prodigal child QB for all those years. He had some fun, didn't take it seriously and it showed. Haskins is in the right organization to groom him. I felt the Steelers were the right fit for him from the beginning. Hopefully all the nonsense is out of his system. Hopefully, he is ready to work.

[feltdizz]

Funny maybe, but eerily prescient.


And I've never heard this kind of thing about a 1st round QB before:



There is probably some hyperbole here otherwise I would question how the guy could even make it as a QB or even get through college with that kind of mental focus issue. Hopefully the saneness and calmness of the 'Burgh will give him a chance to succeed.

I see the negative WFT reports about Haskin’s and believe half of what has been reported.

Snyder forced him onto a HC who didn’t want him in the first place. This isn’t to say Haskin’s was perfect, far from it, but I think a lot of the criticism with Haskin’s has some added “ingredients” due to a coaching staff hating the pick.

As far as Rivera is concerned.. that really comes across as a head coach trying to change the culture of the owner pulling puppet strings on his coaches. He had to remove Haskins because I believe Haskins knew he had Snyder in his back pocket.

Sometimes all a person needs is a change of scenery. Its only been 2 years but people talk like Haskins has been in the league for a long time and burned a ton of bridges.

While I’m bot really a fan of drafting players to sit and learn for years due to the new CBA, I think Haskin’s is a prime example of throwing a kid into the fire too early.

Lastly, I believe he went to HS in Maryland and was too close to home. A lot of kids can’t handle money, fame AND a bunch of family pulling at his pockets.

Haskin’s story isn’t over imo, I hope and believe its just getting started.

[feltdizz]

He isn't dyslexic. He truly broke down without structure. He for the first time got to experience freedom after being that prodigal child QB for all those years. He had some fun, didn't take it seriously and it showed. Haskins is in the right organization to groom him. I felt the Steelers were the right fit for him from the beginning. Hopefully all the nonsense is out of his system. Hopefully, he is ready to work.

People talk about Haskin’s like Washington is an organization with a solid structure/culture.

This is the same org that had a GM and a wife linking info to the media and just got busted for pimping out their cheerleaders.

When I hear the criticism from THAT organization talking about a lack of discipline.. lmao. I’m sure its changing with Rivera in charge but c’mon people. That org was a mess.

[NorthCoast]

I see the negative WFT reports about Haskin’s and believe half of what has been reported.

Snyder forced him onto a HC who didn’t want him in the first place. This isn’t to say Haskin’s was perfect, far from it, but I think a lot of the criticism with Haskin’s has some added “ingredients” due to a coaching staff hating the pick.

As far as Rivera is concerned.. that really comes across as a head coach trying to change the culture of the owner pulling puppet strings on his coaches. He had to remove Haskins because I believe Haskins knew he had Snyder in his back pocket.

Sometimes all a person needs is a change of scenery. Its only been 2 years but people talk like Haskins has been in the league for a long time and burned a ton of bridges.

While I’m bot really a fan of drafting players to sit and learn for years due to the new CBA, I think Haskin’s is a prime example of throwing a kid into the fire too early.

Lastly, I believe he went to HS in Maryland and was too close to home. A lot of kids can’t handle money, fame AND a bunch of family pulling at his pockets.

Haskin’s story isn’t over imo, I hope and believe its just getting started.

You seem to put a lot of Haskins' failure on the org. You would think a benching by the HC would be a strong wakeup call that he needed to work for his job. But it didn't happen. NFL teams don't have the luxury of waiting for a franchise QB to grow up. Too much at stake and too much money involved. Johnny Football is another one that couldn't figure that out.

[feltdizz]

You seem to put a lot of Haskins' failure on the org. You would think a benching by the HC would be a strong wakeup call that he needed to work for his job. But it didn't happen. NFL teams don't have the luxury of waiting for a franchise QB to grow up. Too much at stake and too much money involved. Johnny Football is another one that couldn't figure that out.

Johnny Football had drug issues..

and we DO have the luxury of waiting on Haskin’s to pan out or move on.

lastly, yes.. I put a lot on the WFT org because they had a lot going on when Haskin’s was drafted. HC didnt want him and was on the hot seat and “forced” to play him by the owner. 3. coaches in oess than 2 years.. there was no stability or patience with Haskins and you actually should have patience with young QB’s.

If he went to an org like KC with a QB whisperer I doubt the outcome would be the same but if he flamed out the criticism would hold more weight. If Rivera drafted him and then cut him I would definitely respect the criticism.

Just too much instability in Washington for me to give up on Haskin’s.

[Steel Maniac]

People talk about Haskin’s like Washington is an organization with a solid structure/culture.

This is the same org that had a GM and a wife linking info to the media and just got busted for pimping out their cheerleaders.

When I hear the criticism from THAT organization talking about a lack of discipline.. lmao. I’m sure its changing with Rivera in charge but c’mon people. That org was a mess.

True...I've said for years Daniel Snyder is the worse owner in sports and nothing that's came out about that organazation the last 24 months has dispelled that notion. Just based on the fact that the WFT has been a place where careers have gone to die is
reason enough to give Haskins a legit look and see what good coaching can really do for him. Here's hoping....

[NorthCoast]

True...I've said for years Daniel Snyder is the worse owner in sports and nothing that's came out about that organazation the last 24 months has dispelled that notion. Just based on the fact that the WFT has been a place where careers have gone to die is
reason enough to give Haskins a legit look and see what good coaching can really do for him. Here's hoping....

WFT didn't hurt Chase Young's rookie season. Dude balled out last season. And Mclaurin has done just fine as well.