Fire Mike Tomlin

[Ghost]

I can't blame Tomlin for the challenge flag not being overturned. The Steelers are using Teryl Austin this season to help out. For all we know, he watched the play (and re-play), thought to himself - what a ridiculous PI call (like all of us thought watching it) and relayed down to MT to throw the red flag. That's how it's supposed to work.

The NFL looks like a bunch of a$$-clowns when it's clear to everyone watching it's not PI and the expert official in the booth says it's not PI and then the on field guys simply refuse to make a change for who knows what reason. Blaming Tomlin for this feels like blind hatred.

[Buzz]

I can't blame Tomlin for the challenge flag not being overturned. The Steelers are using Teryl Austin this season to help out. For all we know, he watched the play (and re-play), thought to himself - what a ridiculous PI call (like all of us thought watching it) and relayed down to MT to throw the red flag. That's how it's supposed to work.

The NFL looks like a bunch of a$$-clowns when it's clear to everyone watching it's not PI and the expert official in the booth says it's not PI and then the on field guys simply refuse to make a change for who knows what reason. Blaming Tomlin for this feels like blind hatred.

Well, feel hatred all you want, it's not there on my part. I just think the risk/reward was too great to make the challenge at that point, but we can agree to disagree.

[Real Deal Steel]

I can't blame Tomlin for the challenge flag not being overturned. The Steelers are using Teryl Austin this season to help out. For all we know, he watched the play (and re-play), thought to himself - what a ridiculous PI call (like all of us thought watching it) and relayed down to MT to throw the red flag. That's how it's supposed to work.

The NFL looks like a bunch of a$$-clowns when it's clear to everyone watching it's not PI and the expert official in the booth says it's not PI and then the on field guys simply refuse to make a change for who knows what reason. Blaming Tomlin for this feels like blind hatred.

There is a flaw in that if you expect the on field refs to over rule themselves then you don't know human nature. There needs to be an independent guy in a booth who reviews the challenges. Why would I (on field ref) over rule a call I just made? Makes me look stupid and unable to do my job in real time!

[Northern_Blitz]

I have a nephew just like you, except he's a Lions fan. He cries over every call and defends everything that orginization does.
It's irritating but entertaining at the same time.

Do you have any friends who blindly rage at the coach of their favorite team and think every decision the team makes is the worst decision ever?

[Ghost]

There is a flaw in that if you expect the on field refs to over rule themselves then you don't know human nature. There needs to be an independent guy in a booth who reviews the challenges. Why would I (on field ref) over rule a call I just made? Makes me look stupid and unable to do my job in real time!

Don't disagree with you about human nature but I would expect them to be professional and make the call that's correct. If looking as if you are right is more important than making the actual correct call then you are a terrible official.

[Real Deal Steel]

Don't disagree with you about human nature but I would expect them to be professional and make the call that's correct. If looking as if you are right is more important than making the actual correct call then you are a terrible official.

Your trying to be too right Ghost. LOL. Human nature will kick in more times then not.

[RuthlessBurgher]

There is a flaw in that if you expect the on field refs to over rule themselves then you don't know human nature. There needs to be an independent guy in a booth who reviews the challenges. Why would I (on field ref) over rule a call I just made? Makes me look stupid and unable to do my job in real time!

Alberto Riveron is the one supposedly independent guy in New York making these reviews. And he is downright awful at his job.

The NHL seemingly does a pretty good job handling replay reviews from their command center in Toronto, but the NFL just cannot seem to get this right whatsoever.

[Eddie Spaghetti]

this may be the dumbest rule ever implemented

hopefully it's a one and done and gone next season

[flippy]

Do you have any friends who blindly rage at the coach of their favorite team and think every decision the team makes is the worst decision ever?

His nephew is over on a Lions board right now telling the story of his uncle.....oh nevermind

[papillon]

I heard the official they brought in agree that it shouldn't have been called pass interference. Maybe I missed it, I didn't hear him say he was "stunned that it wasn't overturned." What I thought I heard him say is that on PI challenges, they're going to go with the call on the field unless there's incontrovertible evidence otherwise.

I agree wholeheartedly with your last couple of sentences.

My bad, my writing isn't what it used to be. I thought the ref in the booth was stunned when it wasn't overturned. He clearly never said that, my bad, it was just my opinion of the conversation after it happened. It was funny, my wife and I were watching the game, saw the replay and wanted Tomlin to throw the flag. We both said to each other, "Hey, he's going to get one right" only to have the call stand as called and another failed challenge flag. Oh well, fortunately, it didn't matter.

Pappy

[papillon]

this may be the dumbest rule ever implemented

hopefully it's a one and done and gone next season

Amen!

Pappy

[Northern_Blitz]

His nephew is over on a Lions board right now telling the story of his uncle.....oh nevermind

[NJ-STEELER]

The problem with replay on calls like this is that some officials seem reluctant to OVERTURN the call on the field.

Everyone with a working eyeball could see that this was NOT pass interference. But for whatever reason, replay officials are reluctant to overturn calls on the field unless it's absurdly, blatantly obvious.

Ridiculous. The objective is to get the call correct.

I'm not sure why this is such a hard concept to grasp.

terrible call yes, but might have been an even worse challenge. No way they overturn that with holton's arm out and contacting the DB.
then the possibility of having 1 challenge left for 75% of the game to go from a 1st and 20 to a 2nd and 10 shows he still has no clue how to use these.

[NJ-STEELER]

I can't blame Tomlin for the challenge flag not being overturned. The Steelers are using Teryl Austin this season to help out. For all we know, he watched the play (and re-play), thought to himself - what a ridiculous PI call (like all of us thought watching it) and relayed down to MT to throw the red flag. That's how it's supposed to work.

The NFL looks like a bunch of a$$-clowns when it's clear to everyone watching it's not PI and the expert official in the booth says it's not PI and then the on field guys simply refuse to make a change for who knows what reason. Blaming Tomlin for this feels like blind hatred.

what were they gaining if the challenge was successful?

that's the biggest problem me and the others complaining about are having.

you have 2 challenges a game. you don't waste one for a 10 yard difference in the first Qr.
even if they ruled in favor of the steelers, if he challenges another play and loses (by his law of averages) he is out of challenges for the remainder of the game.

a similar situation happened last year vs. the bengals and they couldn't challenge conner stretching the ball to break the plane of the end zone because they would have been out of challenges mid way through the 3rd Qr.

he needs to take the emotion out of the situation and think about what this will lead too.
like he's said about the patriots "Be intellectual"

[Mr.wizard]

what were they gaining if the challenge was successful?

that's the biggest problem me and the others complaining about are having.

you have 2 challenges a game. you don't waste one for a 10 yard difference in the first Qr.
even if correct on the one, if he challenges another play and loses (by his law of averages) he is out of challenges for the remainder of the game

a similar situation happened last year vs. the bengals and they couldn't challenge conner stretching the ball to break the plane of the end zone because they would have been out of challanges mid way through the 3rd Qr.

The issue was field position and sustaining drives, keeping Mason in manageable down and distance. We were having trouble moving the ball at that point and about to be backed up by the penalty, he was trying to salvage the drive for the defenses sake. You can play the "what if" game a million different ways, he may end up at the end of the game with 2 challenges in his pocket and then everyone is complaining that he didn't use it on that play.