"It's scary how good Ben can be"

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Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

But that doesn't mean I won't pick his game apart

But unlike ME, you don't pick anyone else apart.

You make every excuse under the sun for every QB not named Ben Roethlisberger.

You form your opinion based on what you read.

I'll watch the games and follow the league.

You guys don't know anything. If you did you would see that when we DO play to Ben's strength, he's pretty much unstoppable.

But when we waste time appeasing morons who insist on power formations and 1975 football? We are a predictable, unproductive mess.

homerism at it's best.

As a white man, you justr offended me.

[Crash]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

I am of the opinion that the Steelers offense falls short of some others around the league because of the lack of consistency from the QB position

[url="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00/splits/"]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... 00/splits/[/url]

Where's the inconsistency?

Show us, point it out.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

I am of the opinion that the Steelers offense falls short of some others around the league because of the lack of consistency from the QB position

[url="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00/splits/"]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... 00/splits/[/url]

Where's the inconsistency?

Show us, point it out.

They can't. So they just keep posting lie after lie...mistruth after mistruth...in hopes noboby is smart enough to see their crap and prove them wrong. Typical.

They could save themselves from looking like jack-asses by looking up stuff but, then again, that would time away from their writing bulls hit.

[feltdizz]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

But that doesn't mean I won't pick his game apart

But unlike ME, you don't pick anyone else apart.

You make every excuse under the sun for every QB not named Ben Roethlisberger.

You form your opinion based on what you read.

I'll watch the games and follow the league.

You guys don't know anything. If you did you would see that when we DO play to Ben's strength, he's pretty much unstoppable.

But when we waste time appeasing morons who insist on power formations and 1975 football? We are a predictable, unproductive mess.

homerism at it's best.

As a white man, you justr offended me.

[Crash]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

Look at these home and road splits.

[url="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BradTe00/splits/"]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... 00/splits/[/url]

Just awful.

[Blockhead]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

[url="http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2011/02/23/when-it-comes-to-holding-the-ball-joe-flacco-tops-ben-roethlisb/"]http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2011/02/23/when ... roethlisb/[/url]

Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger has deservedly developed a reputation as the quarterback who creates his own sacks. The Steelers' quarterback believes that he can dodge or shrug off pass rushers. And because of that he extends plays, buying time. Sometimes it leads to a big play, sometimes it leads to a sack.

Roethlisberger may be known for extending plays (and racking up high sack totals), but Baltimore's Joe Flacco was actually the king of holding the ball too long in 2010. In logging the time of each and every sack in the NFL in 2010, Flacco's 25 sacks of 3.1 seconds or more were five more than anyone else in the league.

I chose three seconds as the demarcation line because it's a pretty fair cutoff point for where a sack can no longer be blamed on a quarterback's blockers. The median sack time in the NFL last year was 2.7 seconds, just as it was in 2009. Obviously a line should be able to hold a three-man rush back longer than a eight-man all-out blitz, but for practical purposes, three seconds is the point where a quarterback should generally know that he has to get rid of the ball.

The leaderboard of the over-time sacks is filled with names you may expect. Flacco and Roethlisberger lead the way, but Chicago's Jay Cutler isn't far behind. Michael Vick's legs get him out of trouble a lot, but they also mean that he will also rack up some sacks.

At the other end of the spectrum, Peyton Manning has an internal clock that simply doesn't allow him the hold the ball for long. Only one of his 15 sacks last season was when he held the ball for three seconds or more. It runs in the family as Eli Manning also had only one long sack. Tennessee's Kerry Collins was also notable for very few long sacks.

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Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

I am of the opinion that the Steelers offense falls short of some others around the league because of the lack of consistency from the QB position

[url="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RoetBe00/splits/"]http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... 00/splits/[/url]

Where's the inconsistency?

Show us, point it out.

They can't. So they just keep posting lie after lie...mistruth after mistruth...in hopes noboby is smart enough to see their crap and prove them wrong. Typical.

They could save themselves from looking like jack-asses by looking up stuff but, then again, that would time away from their writing bulls hit.

You never witnessed the times Ben held the ball to long, under threw WR's, didn't see or ignored open WR's, struggled to get the ball out quickly, appeared to struggle with his reads, struggled in the red zone when the windows got smaller, throwing with anticipation of WR's breaking routes?

Those are some struggles with consistency in Ben's game that I notice watching the games. Those are issues with consistency outside of the numbers. There were times that Ben did some of the things I mentioned above well. I don't feel he does those things well consistently. He's one reason why the offense remains an inconsistent force.

I don't believe anyone around here lies. People have opinions and are entitled to those opinions. Having opinions does not make people jackasses. Some of you people take this stuff way to seriously.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

http://nfl.fanhouse.com/2011/02/23/when-it-comes-to-holding-the-ball-joe-flacco-tops-ben-roethlisb/


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Wow...Fanhouse.

Can you get a better point of interest?

Got to love the net. Any a ss with access to the public library puter can become an "expert" that some idiot will quote.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

Oh, and if you watch the fuc king games, you will notice Manning gets happy feet and throws the ball into the stands before anyone gets near him.

But then, to know that, you would have to WATCH the games.

[Blockhead]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

Wow...Fanhouse.

Can you get a better point of interest?

Got to love the net. Any a ss with access to the public library puter can become an "expert" that some idiot will quote.

Instead of preaching your diarheaa diatribe of "watch the games" and proving that you don't, you should brush up on the internet media and internet age of media. It may help you look more educated and less foolish in the future.

Clearly, you didn't click or read the article. Was it too long or in depth for you to comprehend? It shows a breakdown of sacks under 3 seconds and over 3 seconds. Ben is better than Joe Flacco in this regard.

FanHouse is a sports website owned by AOL. Launched in September 2006, FanHouse is considered the Internet's most linked sports blog by aggregator BallHype[1], won Editor & Publisher's 2008 EPpy Award for "Best Sports Blog"[2], and was named as a finalist for the award in 2009.[3]
In January 2009, FanHouse began hiring experienced print journalists, including Jay Mariotti of the Chicago Sun-Times, Kevin Blackistone of the Dallas Morning News, and Lisa Olson of the New York Daily News. FanHouse has continued to bolster its roster, hiring writers away from the Orlando Sentinel, Atlanta Journal-Constitution and Contra Costa Times, among others. FanHouse kept its stable of traditional bloggers as well, including widely published Michael David Smith and Elie Seckbach. Upon its 2006 launch, it became the first sports blog to pay a large number of sports bloggers a per-post fee.

FanHouse is managed by executive producer Randy Kim. Previous executive producers have moved on to leadership positions at Yahoo! (Jamie Mottram), Yardbarker (Alana Nguyen) and NBC (John Clifford Ness). Many FanHouse bloggers have also moved on to other publications.

[Blockhead]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

Oh, and if you watch the fuc king games, you will notice Manning gets happy feet and throws the ball into the stands before anyone gets near him.

But then, to know that, you would have to WATCH the games.

ANYONE who denies those faults exist in Ben's game does NOT WATCH the games.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

Oh, and if you watch the fuc king games, you will notice Manning gets happy feet and throws the ball into the stands before anyone gets near him.

But then, to know that, you would have to WATCH the games.

ANYONE who denies those faults exist in Ben's game does NOT WATCH the games.

Yep, talking heads from half-as sed sports shows know every thing. And they have idiots who follow it.


Ooohhhhh...Keven Blackistone....there is a real expert. He could not find his a ss with a map and a sack lunch.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

Mariotti has not been around since he beat his woman.

Nice non-site you produced there.

Fanhouse=only around because ingrates like you who quote it.

You = not worth the time it takes to pi ss.

[Blockhead]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

If you care to read the facts listed, you'd see a chart, assuming you can in fact read.

If you choose to live in blind homerism, that's your decision and you're more than welcome.

JJ Cooper

J.J. Cooper has covered the NFL for Fanhouse since its inception in 2006. His focus is on analysis and coverage of the lesser-noticed aspects of the game like offensive and defensive line play. He has covered college and pro sports for 20 years with a variety of newspapers and magazines.

[ScoreKeeper]

Re: "It's scary how good Ben can be"

If you care to read the facts listed, you'd see a chart, assuming you can in fact read.

If you choose to live in blind homerism, that's your decision and you're more than welcome.

JJ Cooper

J.J. Cooper has covered the NFL for Fanhouse since its inception in 2006. His focus is on analysis and coverage of the lesser-noticed aspects of the game like offensive and defensive line play. He has covered college and pro sports for 20 years with a variety of newspapers and magazines.

Wow, JJ has been on the job for 4-5 years, has access to a computer, and he's the be all end all.

OK ....he's right.

Wowwwwwwwwfuccccckkkkkkkiiinnnnnnngggggggwweeeeeee ee!!!!!!!!