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  • whisper
    Legend
    • Mar 2020
    • 9423

    #46
    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    You got too many receivers WITHOUT Green. Need to sit several.

    I run Muth/Wash/Pickens /Naj/Green. I would even pass out of that with confidence because the D HAS TO assume run.
    If we aren't presenting any downfield, middle of the field threat, the D can cover both the rush and the pass; that's the entire point from last year's pathetic O production: 28th in TDs scored, 18 PPG, Pickett 2nd to last in QBR and near the bottom of the list in passing production. SOmethings got to change or production isn't gonna grow.

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    • whisper
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      • Mar 2020
      • 9423

      #47
      Originally posted by whisper
      Please cite where Shades attitude has saved players from being cut and led to major team production. Thanks.
      "Knock, knock, knock. Is this thing on?" Zero response. Kaaaaaaaaaaaaaa-rashhhhhhhhh!

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      • Dwinsgames
        Backup
        • Aug 2021
        • 426

        #48
        I would go ......

        Green -FB
        Naj- RB
        Mooth -Washington- 2 TE set
        CA3 -WR

        in this formation I have lot of beef but still have the ability to throw the ball and teams better not sell out for the run or CA3 will smoke them for 6
        @dwinsgames on twitter .... Kenny Pickett is who I thought he was ....

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        • feltdizz
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          • May 2008
          • 27493

          #49
          Originally posted by Dwinsgames
          I would go ......

          Green -FB
          Naj- RB
          Mooth -Washington- 2 TE set
          CA3 -WR

          in this formation I have lot of beef but still have the ability to throw the ball and teams better not sell out for the run or CA3 will smoke them for 6
          Warren at FB, RB and WR.

          unstoppable.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Northern_Blitz
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            • Dec 2008
            • 24358

            #50
            Originally posted by Blitzer
            The Steelers love players that can play multiple positions. I am going from thinking Green gets cut to thinking he has a chance to make the 53.
            I'm warming up to this a bit myself.

            Particularly if having him split at the last OL and blocking FB lets us keep Conner more easily. Connor is a bit weird because he'll be a very good ST, but he's not really a TE or a FB.

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27493

              #51
              Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
              I'm warming up to this a bit myself.

              Particularly if having him split at the last OL and blocking FB lets us keep Conner more easily. Connor is a bit weird because he'll be a very good ST, but he's not really a TE or a FB.
              most reports had Conner getting man handled in 1 on 1’s.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • Captain Lemming
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                • Jun 2008
                • 16001

                #52
                Originally posted by whisper
                If we aren't presenting any downfield, middle of the field threat, the D can cover both the rush and the pass; that's the entire point from last year's pathetic O production: 28th in TDs scored, 18 PPG, Pickett 2nd to last in QBR and near the bottom of the list in passing production. SOmethings got to change or production isn't gonna grow.
                Picken IS the downfield threat. He will DEFINITELY have single coverage as safeties MUST stay in the box in this run heavy set.

                If we dont go Pickens, Muth goes midrange with a size advantage.

                Najee and Washington.. even Green are outlets. You will not stop either for a 1 yard gain.
                Last edited by Captain Lemming; 08-07-2023, 02:49 PM.
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                • Captain Lemming
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                  • Jun 2008
                  • 16001

                  #53
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  most reports had Conner getting man handled in 1 on 1’s.
                  I go 2 HB with Warren blocking for Najee or vice versa before I have Conner blocking for either.

                  Conner at fullback is just a way to account for his spot.

                  Truth is we need to thank Gentry for his service and move on. He is a less talented version of Washington. Even raw Washington is better at what Gentry does.

                  Outside of injury I see zero reason for him to ever see the field.
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                  • Shawn
                    Legend
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 15131

                    #54
                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    Warren at FB, RB and WR.

                    unstoppable.
                    lmao. I know Joel needs to change his underwear after that post.
                    Trolls are people too.

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                    • Shawn
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 15131

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                      whispers fantasy.
                      Who need Washington when you can have a Big fat Green catching passes just like in the 90s.
                      Hey I ache for the days of the Fridge Perry. I?m very open to the idea of Green in this position.
                      Trolls are people too.

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                      • Captain Lemming
                        Legend
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 16001

                        #56
                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        Warren at FB, RB and WR.

                        unstoppable.
                        Gotta agree with Shawn, hilarious.
                        But you both missed one- QB.

                        Warren does not have tiny hands so he can replace Pickett too.
                        Last edited by Captain Lemming; 08-07-2023, 04:19 PM.
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                        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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                        • Northern_Blitz
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 24358

                          #57
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          most reports had Conner getting man handled in 1 on 1’s.
                          I don't doubt it.

                          It's a core ST player and a gadget guy that can do a lot of things. And that's fine. We always keep guys who are strictly ST (even though they get designated positions).

                          But he doesn't seem to be an in-line TE or a lead-blocking FB.

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                          • Northern_Blitz
                            Legend
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 24358

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            Picken IS the downfield threat. He will DEFINITELY have single coverage as safeties MUST stay in the box in this run heavy set.

                            If we dont go Pickens, Muth goes midrange with a size advantage.

                            Najee and Washington.. even Green are outlets. You will not stop either for a 1 yard gain.
                            I know he isn't the chic pick, but DJ in there would be good too (swapped with Pickens). He'll also be singled up. And he's the best guy we have at getting open.

                            I don't think either pick is bad.

                            On 4th and 1, we're probably running either way.

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                            • Steelerphile
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1198

                              #59
                              Originally posted by whisper
                              Please cite where Shades attitude has saved players from being cut and led to major team production. Thanks.
                              It annoys you that everyone doesn't adopt you negative and nihilistic attitude toward Tomlin, and you also exaggerate and misstate many points.
                              There doesn't have to be major production from one person but improved production across the board which results in better team success.

                              Tomlin is well recognized for his ability to extract good performances from players, even if you can't admit anything positive.

                              Last year, would be a good example. The team was in transition at QB and lost their top defensive player, TJ Watt for a long stretch. People like you were ready to bury the team and you said they would be 5-12 or something like that.

                              But the team was able to improve over the season, which is what usually happens, and they finished with a somewhat surprising winning record. Tomlin was able to coax performances from players like Steven Sims, Robert Spillane and Arthur Maulet and others

                              Another reclamation project Ray Ray McCloud was a contributor the prior two years, when he was almost out of the league. He credits Tomlin as many players do.

                              So I think "Shades" has an excellent approach to player development and it is far superior to your attitude which is overy critical, and negative. I don't know if you have ever tired to mentor, teach or coach anyone, but your approach of telling everyone you come into contact that they "suck" would not get anywhere.

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                              • Captain Lemming
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                                • Jun 2008
                                • 16001

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                                I know he isn't the chic pick, but DJ in there would be good too (swapped with Pickens). He'll also be singled up. And he's the best guy we have at getting open.

                                I don't think either pick is bad.

                                On 4th and 1, we're probably running either way.
                                Two reasons for Pickens over DJ. I am not a DJ hater, but Pickens skillset is simply better in that scenario.

                                1. If we DO run he is a preferred blocker. And having little DJ on the bench sells the intent to run more if we DO pass.
                                2. Who is more likely to catch a deep pass. DJ excels in getting free short with quick bursts but does not tend to be effective beating people with deep speed
                                Pickens is not only better the longer the route, even covered his contested catch prowess makes him the better choice.
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                                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

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