Canada's Offense

[NJ-STEELER]

HOFer Ben Roethlisberger vs bum Mark Sanchez.

AFC championship.

One QB throws TDs to Santonio Holmes and Jerricho Cotchery zero picks and has a 102 rating on the day.

The other QB has zero TDs, 2 picks 133 yards and a 35 rating. His only scoring for the day is 2 points for the other team as he is sacked for a safety.

Is Ben QB 1 or 2?

Hint...QB 2 wins the game and gets to the SB to play the Packers.

Win despite zero TDs, 2 picks 133 yards, sacked for a safety, and a 35 rating? Does that count as a "bad game" in your book?

that was a great play by sanchez at the end of the 1st half to take that sack, get stripped of the ball and enable us to get 7 right before the half ends.
what a great game indeed

why did you leave that out?

[NJ-STEELER]

Ben’s first playoff game vs the Jets.

9/19 for 144 yards.. 0TD’s and 2INT’s.

One INT was in the endzone and severely under thrown.

Jets missed 2 game winning FG’s in the open end of the stadium.

It was Ben’s first playoff game and he admitted he was scared as hell.

also coming off a shoulder injury when suggs (15 yard roughing call) drove him shoulder first into the ground in week 15.

didn't play in week 16 giving him a 3 week lay off heading into his first playoff game.

yeah, not a good recipe for success

[NJ-STEELER]

great rehasing some of these bad games.

it it the off season so great time to do it.

stay tuned....

[feltdizz]

great rehasing some of these bad games.

it it the off season so great time to do it.

stay tuned....

blame the person who asked for games where Ben played bad and we still won.

[Captain Lemming]

blame the person who asked for games where Ben played bad and we still won.

Yeah, been here since day one and never brought up either Jets game.

[Captain Lemming]

that was a great play by sanchez at the end of the 1st half to take that sack, get stripped of the ball and enable us to get 7 right before the half ends.
what a great game indeed

why did you leave that out?

Because the question was when did we win a bad game despite BEN.

I only mentioned Sanchez because he ironically threw TDs to known Steeler receivers. Thus the "which QB" question.

[NJ-STEELER]

blame the person who asked for games where Ben played bad and we still won.

not looking to blame anyone. but an opportunity has arrived.

I see (as usual) some details left out on these stats to further agendas.
here's another one. ow many points was sanchez down going into the 2nd half of that game? think there was any prevent defense going on with the steelers in the 2nd half

as I said.................stay tuned
gonna be a lot fun !!!!!!!!

[NJ-STEELER]

Because the question was when did we win a bad game despite BEN.

I only mentioned Sanchez because he ironically threw TDs to known Steeler receivers. Thus the "which QB" question.

cool beans


i have a load of questions on some former coaching decisions.

stay tuned buddy

lil busy right now

[Northern_Blitz]

that was a great play by sanchez at the end of the 1st half to take that sack, get stripped of the ball and enable us to get 7 right before the half ends.
what a great game indeed

why did you leave that out?

Turnovers by the QB don't contribute to losses.

It was bad coaching. Or the receiver's fault. Or bad line play.

[Northern_Blitz]

Author is wrong here. Pressure to perform is on the players. That be execution without mistakes and TOs.

Clearly both are important. Although I think execution is more important in general.

And when you have 5 turnovers, I think it's safe to say execution was a bigger problem than coaching (which was also sub par in that game... Especially re run D as you've pointed out).

I hope that Canada is permitted to do some changes to things like motion, PA passing etc.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

IMO Ben saved Tomlin as he has 35 with quarter comebacks meaning the defense didn't shut them down and 46 game winning drives meaning he won the game by having the ball last when scoring points. WOW. That magic.

[QUOTE=Captain Lemming;835486]You do know one of those “comebacks” was a 3-0 win right?

>> SO? I'm sure we lost by three points too?

Defense didn’t shut them down? Really?

Bens career season high for comebacks is 5. Rookie season under Cowher and 2008 under Tomlin. Common factor?

>>> So, Tomlin also had the lions hare of these comebacks as an as FYI, Ben never had 5 4th quarter comebacks, you are concussing things with game winning drives ( 46 most of which headed under Tomlin )

Number one defenses, both seasons.



>>I know we used to win playoffs games with Arians and Lebeau ,then they left, check Tomlin's record in the playoffs, If you dare...the coaching under Tomlin picked OC's and DC's clearly was not as good. Don't even there. Tomlin fire are the boogey man to absolve him of blame from his decisions. End of unless you want to start defending Too Haley, and Randy F/

Fun fact. In those 5 comebacks in 2008, the average allowed was 14.6.


>>>> Fun fact, Cowher and Colbert picked some pretty good defender back then, eh? # Mike won with Bill Cowher players, period.

Joel, they weren’t behind because of poor defense, they were behind because offense was so bad they were behind for lack of scoring throughout the game.

Debatable, and you spreading out 15 years. Ward, Miller, Bettis, Faneca, Pouncey, Wallace ( When he was here ) ) were all grade A players for the offense. No rate was this a poor offense. Poor offenses rate in the 20's or 30's if you are talking total yards or points. . Calling the Steelers poor offense is just wrong. Average on 1-2 years would be better, so go cling to that point if you must.


BTW, during that playoff, Ben threw a total of three touchdowns. Same as the defense and special teams who also scored 3 TDs.
Ben threw less than 50 percent against the Ravens and Troy scored a TD.

[COLOR="#00FF00"]Which year are you talking about? Ben was 5-1 under Cowher for the playoffs, and a little green. I do recall Ben making a touch down saving tackle after Bettis fumbled.

And the SB? That was a magical comeback true. But don’t forget defense spotted him 7…in reality a 10 or 14 point swing if JH doesn’t take it to the house.

Take away Harrison’s defensive score and we lose 23-20.

NO-NO. you can't say that, There was a whole half of football left for Ben to come back. One could say if Holmes was rules out of bounds, and to be honest it was razor close Tomlin NEVER WINS A SUPER BOWL, as that pretty much was the last play of game. Do you want to play on? I don't think this thread went the way you intended it too.

[NorthCoast]

so a rushing TD doesn't count? after 2 tries from A HOF RB from the same spot failed?
how were his passing on the 3 playoff games prior to that. all on the road.
the first QB to win 3 playoff games on the road leading to the SB

does he need to put #8 on his jersey and have a speech impediment to get some praise from this board for a rushing TD?

PS tell hines to pull in a pass that in his hands (by the pylon)and he wouldn't have to throw for a TD to help us win

Someone asked to list games where Roethlisberger didn't play well. A QB rating of 22 is the definition of not playing well.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Someone asked to list games where Roethlisberger didn't play well. A QB rating of 22 is the definition of not playing well.

Who out there could play well in 233 games started in the regular season and 22 games started in the playoffs? Who? With 250+ games, it's not hard to find a bad one. I could find bad games by Micheal Jordan, Gretzky, Secretariat, Pick your baseball player, M Ali, etc... Pick your icon.

[feltdizz]

Who out there could play well in 233 games started in the regular season and 22 games started in the playoffs? Who? With 250+ games, it's not hard to find a bad one. I could find bad games by Micheal Jordan, Gretzky, Secretariat, Pick your baseball player, M Ali, etc... Pick your icon.

lmao.. then why did you ask the damn question?

what in the jekylle and hyde is going?

[Northern_Blitz]

Who out there could play well in 233 games started in the regular season and 22 games started in the playoffs? Who? With 250+ games, it's not hard to find a bad one. I could find bad games by Micheal Jordan, Gretzky, Secretariat, Pick your baseball player, M Ali, etc... Pick your icon.

If you're argument is that your initial question was a bad one, I don't think you'll get much push back here.