Fire Mike Tomlin

[NJ-STEELER]

The issue was field position and sustaining drives, keeping Mason in manageable down and distance. We were having trouble moving the ball at that point and about to be backed up by the penalty, he was trying to salvage the drive for the defenses sake. You can play the "what if" game a million different ways, he may end up at the end of the game with 2 challenges in his pocket and then everyone is complaining that he didn't use it on that play.

well last year's game showed he screwed it up then, but thankfully it didn't effect us much in yesterdays game.

the possible negatives far out weighs the positives with that challenge. like I said, even if correct you are then limited the rest of the game in what you can challenge.
if the challenge was successful, its still 2nd and 10. its not like we were getting a first down if they reversed the call.

sad part is he'll likely do it again because he "obviously" doesn't learn from his mistakes.

and then when he is eventually burnt by it, we'll hear some other excuses from you guys

[Mr.wizard]

well last year's game showed he screwed it up then, but thankfully it didn't effect us much in yesterdays game.

the possible negatives far out weighs the positives with that challenge. like I said, even if correct you are then limited the rest of the game in what you can challenge.
if the challenge was successful, its still 2nd and 10. its not like we were getting a first down if they reversed the call.

sad part is he'll likely do it again because he "obviously" doesn't learn from his mistakes.

and then when he is eventually burnt by it, we'll hear some other excuses from you guys

You cant possibly weigh the positives and negatives because at that point you have no idea gow the game is going to go. You cant coach the current drive preparing for a hypothetical drive that might occur at the end of the game. A drive in the 2nd quarter could effect the outcome of the game as much or more than a 4th quarter drive. I hope he does it again, i hope he coaches every drive as if it is going to decide the game, because it might.

[Northern_Blitz]

You cant possibly weigh the positives and negatives because at that point you have no idea gow the game is going to go. You cant coach the current drive preparing for a hypothetical drive that might occur at the end of the game. A drive in the 2nd quarter could effect the outcome of the game as much or more than a 4th quarter drive. I hope he does it again, i hope he coaches every drive as if it is going to decide the game, because it might.

FIRE TOMLIN!!!

He doesn't even use a time machine when making decisions.

[STH70]

I can get a lot more gross.

But I don't consider a reference to a sexual act like a blowjob as disgusting or gross.

Apparently, you've never had a hot GF that could give a good one.

I'll stay on topic. Fire the overpaid janitor! A few softies shed some tears every time those words are written. . I love it.

And by the way, to the person that said I'm from SC. I'm not. I'm from the north east. A stone's throw away from PA. But that's ok, continue to showcase ignorance.

Next we'll read how the hatred for Tomlin has nothing to do with race.
Ummm, yeah ok.

[Oh wow]

You cant possibly weigh the positives and negatives because at that point you have no idea gow the game is going to go. You cant coach the current drive preparing for a hypothetical drive that might occur at the end of the game. A drive in the 2nd quarter could effect the outcome of the game as much or more than a 4th quarter drive. I hope he does it again, i hope he coaches every drive as if it is going to decide the game, because it might.

There is going to be a time where we don’t challenge a play early and folks will complain about Tomlin screwing that up too.

[Oviedo]

There is going to be a time where we don’t challenge a play early and folks will complain about Tomlin screwing that up too.

People here complain about anything Tomlin does...say it isn't true! Tomlin could win the next two Super Bowls and the same people would complain about what he wore during the game

[flippy]

People here complain about anything Tomlin does...say it isn't true! Tomlin could win the next two Super Bowls and the same people would complain about what he wore during the game

And the others will complain about the complainers.

It's a virtuos/vicious cycle. Depends on your perspective.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

Either is fine by me. It's a discussion forum and should be expected.

The bigger question is which group can be more outraged than the other? That's the winner in our modern era. Unfortunately.

All people are silly.

[NorthCoast]

I agree with Wiz. Tomlin saw what everyone else saw, ...incidental contact. It's one of reasons the rule exists. Because the official didn't enforce the correct ruling doesn't make Tomlin wrong.

[flippy]

I agree with Wiz. Tomlin saw what everyone else saw, ...incidental contact. It's one of reasons the rule exists. Because the official didn't enforce the correct ruling doesn't make Tomlin wrong.

Given that Tomlin is on the competition committee, I think he should have known what to expect and that the call wouldn't be turned over.

The only logical consideration is that Tomlin hates the rule and review of PI and he called this out to get people to take notice and eventually ditch the rule in the offseason.

Or he wanted a long time out.

[steeler_fan_in_t.o.]

My bad, my writing isn't what it used to be. I thought the ref in the booth was stunned when it wasn't overturned. He clearly never said that, my bad, it was just my opinion of the conversation after it happened. It was funny, my wife and I were watching the game, saw the replay and wanted Tomlin to throw the flag. We both said to each other, "Hey, he's going to get one right" only to have the call stand as called and another failed challenge flag. Oh well, fortunately, it didn't matter.

Pappy

At the time I said it was a bad call but would not be overturned. Similar types of issues in the Thursday nighter this week. Only the completely phantom calls will be overturned.

[steelz09]

People here complain about anything Tomlin does...say it isn't true! Tomlin could win the next two Super Bowls and the same people would complain about what he wore during the game

That's the most ridiculous statement I've ever heard especially coming from the guy that complained about Dick Lebeau for years and called him all sorts of names.

[hawaiiansteel]

People here complain about anything Tomlin does...say it isn't true! Tomlin could win the next two Super Bowls and the same people would complain about what he wore during the game

that's bullsh!t and you know it.

you've become so obsessed with bashing other posters who don't agree with you that you've now resorted to making outlandish, ridiculous and outright stupid comments.

[Northern_Blitz]

Given that Tomlin is on the competition committee, I think he should have known what to expect and that the call wouldn't be turned over.

The only logical consideration is that Tomlin hates the rule and review of PI and he called this out to get people to take notice and eventually ditch the rule in the offseason.

Or he wanted a long time out.

I think the wanted a time out thing actually happens.

The league automatically reviews a lot of stuff now, so I think the value of coaches challenges has diminished.

I don't think coaches really worry about running out of them anymore.

[whatever]

I'm not sure why this is such a hard concept to grasp.

terrible call yes, but might have been an even worse challenge. No way they overturn that with holton's arm out and contacting the DB.
then the possibility of having 1 challenge left for 75% of the game to go from a 1st and 20 to a 2nd and 10 shows he still has no clue how to use these.

Exactly.
No one is saying it was a good call. Everyone knows it was wrong. I'm sure the ref that called it will admit he missed it. I'm sure the league will let him know.
The problem is not knowing how the challenge rule is implemented and realizing the situation you put your team in if you challenge it.

[Captain Lemming]

Exactly.
No one is saying it was a good call. Everyone knows it was wrong. I'm sure the ref that called it will admit he missed it. I'm sure the league will let him know.
The problem is not knowing how the challenge rule is implemented and realizing the situation you put your team in if you challenge it.

Agreed.
THIS CALL makes the above point clear. But before this call?

There was no HISTORY to make this as obvious as you say.

I don't care if Tomlin was on the committee. We have no basis for saying he should have known.

Heck refs are often unsure of how to implement new rules, and it takes time for them to get on the same page.

It is nearly universally considered the wrong call. It is not hard to imagine it might get overturned. We NOW KNOW even the most incidental contact won't be overturned.

If this happens next week, you got a point. As it was...there is no basis to be this critical as though it was obvious.