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  • Moonie
    Hall of Famer
    • Sep 2013
    • 2511

    Bell looked pretty good last night. Best day as a Jet. Maybe it takes him 14 games to find his groove?

    What goes out the window is this “worst offensive line in NFL” defense. That Jets offensive line was pushing the Ravens around just fine.

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    • Ernie
      Legend
      • Aug 2013
      • 8470

      Originally posted by Moonie
      Bell looked pretty good last night. Best day as a Jet. Maybe it takes him 14 games to find his groove?

      What goes out the window is this “worst offensive line in NFL” defense. That Jets offensive line was pushing the Ravens around just fine.
      im sort of questioning that whole concept myself... its not like the Jets are a 1 or 2 win team... and keep in mind Darnold was out for an extended period

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      • Steel Maniac
        Banned
        • Apr 2017
        • 19472

        Originally posted by Ernie
        im sort of questioning that whole concept myself... its not like the Jets are a 1 or 2 win team... and keep in mind Darnold was out for an extended period
        From the start, the Ravens defense was playing lackadaisical; they didn't view the Jets as a real threat on offense. Anyone who has watched the Ravens all year will tell you the same thing. Defensively, they looked nothing like the defense I saw against the 49ers. Nothing. No fire, just going thru the motions.

        Jets did what they did (offensively) because the Ravens (defensively) are gearing up to lay it on the Browns next week in their last big game before taking week 17 off.

        Jets O-line is garbage who were the more motivated of the two for a lot of the game. Same Jets O-line that got demolished by the Bengals just a week ago.

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        • Oh wow
          Hall of Famer
          • Mar 2019
          • 2753

          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
          Difference between you and I?
          I dont embarrass myself and give you that win.

          YOU? Trying to spin Jarvis Jones as capable FOR YEARS despite clear evidence to the contrary.
          No different than a Tomlin hater who wont admit they were wrong.

          Bell and Brown....I was right.

          Think about this...for the first time ever Colbert goes on a shopping spree...aquiring free agents, making trades,
          Amazingly the defense is solid again.

          If they did what they are doing now...when Ben was at his peak....sacrificed elite talent ast non-critical positions...not signing every Bell, Brown, or Pouncey to have the money to spend, we would have ALWAYS been better off.
          Better off? Our we sure we our better off right now?
          It’s not that easy to have a defense click together the way our defense has this season.

          Did ANYONE on here even predict our D would be this gangster?

          The Fitzmagic trade was awesome but it’s RARE to get a guy like that on a rookie contract. Colbert has shopped before, we just bought the wrong products on defense.

          I’m not knocking what this D has accomplished this year but you can’t cherry pick it and suggest we would’ve had more success without some of our best players on offense.

          We made it to an AFCCG with our expensive offense.

          I’m not so sure we make a deep run with this D and this offense.

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          • Oh wow
            Hall of Famer
            • Mar 2019
            • 2753

            Originally posted by Moonie
            Bell looked pretty good last night. Best day as a Jet. Maybe it takes him 14 games to find his groove?

            What goes out the window is this “worst offensive line in NFL” defense. That Jets offensive line was pushing the Ravens around just fine.
            That OL isn’t good. Remember the Browns also ran all over that Ravens defense earlier in the year.

            Ravens also did a lot of blitzing.

            I think they said the Jets have 15 guys on IR.

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            • Oh wow
              Hall of Famer
              • Mar 2019
              • 2753

              Originally posted by Ernie
              im sort of questioning that whole concept myself... its not like the Jets are a 1 or 2 win team... and keep in mind Darnold was out for an extended period
              Is it even possible to have one team as the definitive worst OL in the NFL.

              Im sure in most stats, metrics and polls they are a bottom 5 OL.
              Last edited by Oh wow; 12-13-2019, 12:53 PM.

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              • Ernie
                Legend
                • Aug 2013
                • 8470

                Originally posted by Oh wow
                Is it even possible to have one team as the definitive worst OL in the NFL.

                Im sure we in most stats, metrics and polls they are a bottom 5 OL.
                i doubt it...and thats sort of why im scratching my head right now (folks trying to use that to justify Bell's mediocre stats).

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                • Oh wow
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Mar 2019
                  • 2753

                  Originally posted by Ernie
                  i doubt it...and thats sort of why im scratching my head right now (folks trying to use that to justify Bell's mediocre stats).
                  Wait.. you doubt the Jets OL is bad because of Bell being on the team?

                  So all the stats, rankings and percentages that grade them low are just to protect Bells image?

                  C’mon dude...

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                  • Buzz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 8299

                    Originally posted by Moonie
                    Bell looked pretty good last night.
                    Bell did look pretty good. But did he look $15 million per year good? I don't think so.

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                    • Ernie
                      Legend
                      • Aug 2013
                      • 8470

                      Originally posted by Oh wow
                      Wait.. you doubt the Jets OL is bad because of Bell being on the team?

                      So all the stats, rankings and percentages that grade them low are just to protect Bells image?

                      C’mon dude...
                      uh... thats the reach of the year... lmao

                      and is not what was said at all.... i said i was skeptical of the notion that the OL play was to blame for Bell's mediocre #s.

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                      • Ernie
                        Legend
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 8470

                        Originally posted by Oh wow
                        Wait.. you doubt the Jets OL is bad because of Bell being on the team?

                        So all the stats, rankings and percentages that grade them low are just to protect Bells image?

                        C’mon dude...
                        god dude.. thats the dumbest post ive read all year. i was replying to your first statment... "Is it even possible to have one definitive team as the worst OL in the league"....not your second
                        Last edited by Ernie; 12-13-2019, 01:49 PM.

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                        • Mr.wizard
                          Legend
                          • May 2014
                          • 6617

                          Originally posted by Ernie
                          i doubt it...and thats sort of why im scratching my head right now (folks trying to use that to justify Bell's mediocre stats).
                          Jets O line was ranked 28th in the league to start the season by PFF and that was using the guys who were supposed to start. They have had injuries and they have been moving guys around.

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                          • Oh wow
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Mar 2019
                            • 2753

                            Originally posted by Ernie
                            god dude.. thats the dumbest post ive read all year. i was replying to your first statment... "Is it even possible to have one definitive team as the worst OL in the league"....not your second
                            you didn’t clarify so it reads like you don’t believe their OL is bad..

                            Your response to Moonie implies the OL can’t be the reason Bell hasn’t put up numbers.

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                            • Northern_Blitz
                              Legend
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 23985

                              Originally posted by Buzz
                              Bell did look pretty good. But did he look $15 million per year good? I don't think so.
                              This.

                              In a cap league, the question isn't: Is a player good / bad?

                              It's: Do they deliver more value than their contract?

                              It seems clear that Bell will always be overpaid on his current deal.

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                              • hawaiiansteel
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 35314

                                Originally posted by Buzz
                                Bell did look pretty good. But did he look $15 million per year good? I don't think so.
                                Bell received 23 touches in last night's game and got 88 yards (3.83 yd/avg per touch) and scored zero TDs.

                                definitely not worth anywhere near $15 million/yr.

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