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  • Oviedo
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 23824

    #76
    Originally posted by Slapstick
    You also lose a down and a few seconds spiking the ball. Perhaps he thought narrowing the playbook further was not the best idea.
    There you go bringing up a rational explanation. We lost so hysteria is the flavor of the day. Ben's three INTs lost this game not clock management. To dwell on that is just stupid when there are so many other obvious reasons we lost.
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    • papillon
      Legend
      • Mar 2008
      • 11340

      #77
      In today's pass happy NFL, 1st and 10, 2nd and 10 or even 3rd and 10, I don't think you're limiting the playbook, because you aren't running the ball regardless. You need chunks of yards to try and score a TD the down and distance are mostly irrelevant unless, of course, there's a penalty and it becomes 2nd or 3rd and 20, then its an issue and you're limited to the part of the playbook that can pick up 20 yards in one play.

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      • SteelCrazy
        Legend
        • Aug 2008
        • 5049

        #78
        Originally posted by Slapstick
        Or, if we use the TO, Cincy calls a different play and the clock does not stop. I believe saving the TOs for offense to be the right call, so you aren't forced to use the sidelines.
        Why would they call something different.? They had the whole two minute warning time out to call something different. Their objective was to run out the clock or burn our time outs.
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        • WindyCitySteel
          Legend
          • Nov 2011
          • 15684

          #79
          Originally posted by SteelCrazy
          Why would they call something different.? They had the whole two minute warning time out to call something different. Their objective was to run out the clock or burn our time outs.
          Exactly - that's such a silly argument. They could have called a play to AJ or Eifert on 3rd down and ended the game right there. We only had one timeout left.

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          • Slapstick
            Rookie
            • May 2008
            • 0

            #80
            If you say so. You saw what Hue Jackson was calling. If you know for sure what he would or would not have called, then you are as awesome as you think you are.
            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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            • Mr.wizard
              Legend
              • May 2014
              • 6686

              #81
              Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
              it was dumb

              you can spike the ball on offense to kill the clock

              tomlin struggles at clock management, not sure why some refuse to admit it
              So you use your timeouts to save 10 seconds in order to try and use spikes to stop the clock? It takes more than 10 seconds if you complete a pass down the field to get up on the line and spike it and you lose a down.

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              • SteelCrazy
                Legend
                • Aug 2008
                • 5049

                #82
                Originally posted by Slapstick
                If you say so. You saw what Hue Jackson was calling. If you know for sure what he would or would not have called, then you are as awesome as you think you are.
                you knew what the rest of us couldn't begin to comprehend......that the Bengals could have called a different play then rutfm if the Steelers call a time out and not let the 2 minute warning call it. Who cares? I think it was another blunder in Tomlins clock management history and you don't. Im gonna lace them up........
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                • 7upnext
                  Backup
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 367

                  #83
                  Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                  There are kids who play Madden who could probably do a better job than he does with clock management at the end of the halves.
                  there are kids with Madden who could do EVERYTHING better. What does a head coach do besides motivate, game plan, clock management, evaluator of talent and developer of said talent? Going down the list. He's glaringly horrible at clock management. When you watch games and it approaches the 2 minute mark at halftime or end of games, he looks like a deer in headlights. He's totally oblivious and a detriment as a coach. He's a defensive minded coach (specifically defensive backs) but nothing he's ever done as a coach (worst passing defense as coordinator for Vikings the year he took over) since he's been here has shown he can identify or coach secondary players let alone the whole defense. We have ample evidence that he fails to motivate the team going by the performance from week to week especially against lesser competition. We've also had to deal with multiple infractions by several players during his tenure which means they don't fear/respect him as a leader of men. Sure he listens to the same music and knows the lingo but that's not leadership. So in summation:

                  Not a good motivator
                  Not good at clock management
                  Has failed to identify or develop defensive stars (especially at his bread and butter the secondary)
                  Consistent lapses in team identity (run? pass? blitz? zone?) leaves his game planning suspect

                  Pray tell fanboys what he does well? All the evidence points to me being right that he coasted when hired because he was given a franchise QB and SB caliber defense with coordinators/coaches all in place. Name another head coach ever hired that wasn't given the chance to hire his own staff? Let's face it, the Rooneys wanted to make a statement by hiring a black guy. He did next to nothing and stood on the sidelines and watched the loaded team be amazing. As soon as those amazing players aged/retired/left and he then had to reload the team in his own image the defense sucks, they've failed to win a playoff game and are in danger of continuing that trend through this season.

                  Is it blind love because you share the same skin color? Is it white guilt? It cannot be because of his coaching.

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                  • BradshawsHairdresser
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 7056

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Eddie Spaghetti
                    it was dumb

                    you can spike the ball on offense to kill the clock

                    tomlin struggles at clock management, not sure why some refuse to admit it
                    Face it, Tomlin could be caught robbing a Brinks truck, and some on this board would be quick to make some kind of excuse...

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27531

                      #85
                      Originally posted by 7upnext
                      there are kids with Madden who could do EVERYTHING better. What does a head coach do besides motivate, game plan, clock management, evaluator of talent and developer of said talent? Going down the list. He's glaringly horrible at clock management. When you watch games and it approaches the 2 minute mark at halftime or end of games, he looks like a deer in headlights. He's totally oblivious and a detriment as a coach. He's a defensive minded coach (specifically defensive backs) but nothing he's ever done as a coach (worst passing defense as coordinator for Vikings the year he took over) since he's been here has shown he can identify or coach secondary players let alone the whole defense. We have ample evidence that he fails to motivate the team going by the performance from week to week especially against lesser competition. We've also had to deal with multiple infractions by several players during his tenure which means they don't fear/respect him as a leader of men. Sure he listens to the same music and knows the lingo but that's not leadership. So in summation:

                      Not a good motivator
                      Not good at clock management
                      Has failed to identify or develop defensive stars (especially at his bread and butter the secondary)
                      Consistent lapses in team identity (run? pass? blitz? zone?) leaves his game planning suspect

                      Pray tell fanboys what he does well? All the evidence points to me being right that he coasted when hired because he was given a franchise QB and SB caliber defense with coordinators/coaches all in place. Name another head coach ever hired that wasn't given the chance to hire his own staff? Let's face it, the Rooneys wanted to make a statement by hiring a black guy. He did next to nothing and stood on the sidelines and watched the loaded team be amazing. As soon as those amazing players aged/retired/left and he then had to reload the team in his own image the defense sucks, they've failed to win a playoff game and are in danger of continuing that trend through this season.

                      Is it blind love because you share the same skin color? Is it white guilt? It cannot be because of his coaching.
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                      • snarky
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 1198

                        #86
                        I'm pretty confident that had Tomlin used his TOs before teh 2MW, Marty and Doc would have shown up in their Delorean with 25 year old Rod Woodson sitting in the back seat. After receiving a hero's welcome, Rod would have given every adult at the stadium a Mr. Fusion and every kid nice new hoverboard. The Bengals coaching staff would have been so awestruck by this that they foolishly called for a pass into the flats. Having suited up, Woodson would have been on the field and obviously converted this ill-fated play call into a pick6

                        After the game, Rod would have seen Biff at Station Square and punched his lights out.
                        In response to his pleas, an officer said: "You think we've never arrested somebody that's made national media? ... We deal with the Bengals all the time."

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                        • Ghost
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 6338

                          #87
                          The answer to the originally posted question is on full display in the Tomlin clock management thread.
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                          • Slapstick
                            Rookie
                            • May 2008
                            • 0

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Ghost
                            The answer to the originally posted question is on full display in the Tomlin clock management thread.
                            Somehow, it just got worse...
                            Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                            • phillyesq
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 7568

                              #89
                              Originally posted by BradshawsHairdresser
                              Face it, Tomlin could be caught robbing a Brinks truck, and some on this board would be quick to make some kind of excuse...
                              Who cares if he robbed a Brinks truck? It doesn't matter because he's better than Whiz.

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                              • buccoray61
                                Starter
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 945

                                #90
                                Originally posted by phillyesq
                                Who cares if he robbed a Brinks truck? It doesn't matter because he's better than Whiz.
                                I see Whiz got fired today. 3-20 will do that. I had no idea his time in Tennesee was that bad.

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