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Everything I've read about it says that Cowher wanted Shawn Andrews and that Rooney and Colbert over-ruled him.

That is also consistent with everything I have heard.

Add me to that list as well. Cowher was eying a guy from his Alma Mater (Rivers) who he knew he'd never have a realistic chance at getting.

Instead he was forced to take a guy who is proving to be not only a Steeler great, but one of the all time greats. If Ben continues doing what he's doing it appears I'll be making another trip to Canton...but this time for an induction ceremony! I've always been a Cowher fan and was sad to see him go, but on this one I'm damn glad he was overruled.

Oh, and just for the record, the Mods are active participants here. There is no tattling going on...they read the forum. Also, as has been pointed out already, I have a job. With a company that ranks in the top 25 of the fortune 500 even. Yup, a top 25 fortune 500 company has a location right here in the sticks...NC, you could probably hunt deer right on the company's property from the comfort of one of the balconies that overlooks the pond!

[snarky]

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I think Cowher was a great coach and loved him. One of the best motivational coaches of all time. To me he did more with less than any coach around during his coaching days. I believe many over estimate the talent he had to work with. He had very few "stars" at the skill positions during his tenure. He never had a QB that he could turn the game over to and have him win it. That's the reason I think he didn't have more championship seasons.

However, I don't think he was much of an X and O type of coach. He wasn't a perfect coach by any means. He was out coached in quite a few big games and the reason he did win a championship was he finally let his coordinators do their job that year and that enabled us to out coach our opponents. Other years it seemed like his testicles shrunk up inside him and we would play that "turtle" ball type of game which is hard to win against the type of opponents you face in conference championship games or SBs.

I have to say Tomlin was not my choice for the head coaching job. However, I have liked him from the first time I heard him speak and I like him more every time I hear him. He holds his players, his coaching staff and himself accountable which is something I love about him. The players seem to respect him and want to play for him. He also is not a perfect coach and is the first one to admit it. After his first season he said that he had a lot to improve on. I think he has done that.

I give Tomlin a lot of credit for the job he has done. Not as much credit as Cowher because he hasn't been around that long but I think he has done a good enough job to get a contract extension of 4 or 5 years. Of course all this is JMHO.

Very well said. The one point that is made against Tomlin that I think holds a bit of water still is the Switzer effect. It is of course possible that he will turn out to be a Switzer. But when you look at how many coaches come and go in this league without taking a team to the SB, it only makes sense for FO to lock the guy up for a few years if they don't see any warning signs that he made not work out in the long run.

[NC Steeler Fan]

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No...she shot Bambi's mom. Girl on girl crime. Almost an interspecies cat fight.

BTW, I think the pink turtleneck kind of ruins the whole concept of camoflauge. It is difficult to pretend that you are a tree with a fuchsia-colored neck-line showing through.

Fortunately deer are color blind.

However using a high powered rifle to kill and unarmed animal is hardly a sport. Would be more impressed to see an arrow sticking out of the deer or a flintlock musket on her back.

For once we agree.

Bullchiiiiit...

Spoken like non-deer hunters. Busting a DECENT doe is tough.

Those skinny, spindly, city deer that so many of you are familiar with are easy prey.
But, they don't have any meat on them and are not worth cleaning.

Out in the woods, an old doe with meat on her will actually let her fawns walk out into
an open field to see if anything goes after them before she breaks the cover of
the woods to graze herself.

Even good bucks in rut are dumber than big, fat old does. A buck will stumble out into a
clearing to check a mock scrape in heartbeat, as opposed to the doe who will see you long before you ever see her, no matter how still or scent-free you are and how closely you are listening for the slightest hint of movement near you.

As for the weapon of choice, I prefer a quick, clean, sure kill hunting in thicker cover. Not everyone hunts in high fence, park-like settings like you see on TV you know.

S'kay. I'm used to the lack of knowledge out there...

Sorry to bust your little pink bubble but I started hunting when I was 12 years old.

I just realized that sport meant something that was competitive and difficult. Let's see high powered rifle that will shoot 600 yards plus. High powered optics so the target looks like it is 20 yards away. Multi round magazine just in case you aren't really that good a shot. I'd cut you a break if you had at least tried with open sights but I guess girls just aren't that good a shot

Be honest. Until deer start wearing flack jackets and can plant anti-personnel mines and claymores along your path to deer stands it is hardly a sport.

Hey, I'm not the one hung up on defining it as a sport!

It is a common distraction thrown at me when I bring up the subject among
non-hunting men though...

P.S. I'm getting pretty good at consistently turning the heart into a gelatinous mass. Following blood trails is for rookies...and for when bowhunting is the only option.

[eniparadoxgma]

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Come back to us when Tomlin keeps the ship straight for 15 years. By the time Cowher retired Nolls team were already grandparents and we were still winning.

I seem to remember you consistently moving the goal posts in reference to whether or not you'd "give Tomlin the benefit of the doubt". Weren't you supposed to have been alright with him and admitted he was a good coach after the Super Bowl?

I thought I remembered that...

...but I might just be confusing that with "what any sane person would think".

[Iron Shiek]

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WTF!? How did I miss this thread. It took forever to read, and yes I read everything. What a range of topics.

All I can say is I definitely agree with enip and his last post. But frankly, I don't give a $hit about it either way. I enjoy reading everything here, and if its really outrageous I laugh at it. Simple.

As for the Steeler related discussion points. I have a hard time agreeing with anyone that believes Tomlin is or partially resembles Switzer and that situation. Utterly preposterous. That dude sat back, rolled the ball out and watched the team win him a ring. Tomlin seems just a tad bit more engaged, just a tad. Much more of a leader than Switzer ever was. I don't buy any statements saying Tomlin is not a good coach. Sure he has some poor moments, nobody is perfect all the time. He is still a fairly new to this, but now the level of expectation has to be higher with the Super Bowl win under his belt. So I fervently expect those "bad coaching" decisions or whatever you want to call them to be fewer and farther between. Leadership and motivation wise however, I see him as Cowher's equal...already. Yes, I just said that.

[NC Steeler Fan]

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You know, win or lose, mistake-prone from time-to-time (being human) or genius, if I ever have to wonder if Tomlin has the respect of key members of his team as a leader and someone to trust, I just have to remember that pic of Tomlin and Ben on the sideline. The one with Tomlin standing and Ben kneeling on one leg and holding Tomlin's hand as they watched the final moments of the game wind down.

Some people might think that was "soft"...but I saw confidence and a bond of trust no matter what happens.

That's a huge part of being a good coach too.

[eniparadoxgma]

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Overpaid janitor.