Ever notice...

[NKySteeler]

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I will also say that I like LVG, and have met him personally. His love for the Steelers should never be questioned. We all are entitled to varying opinions.... I also like stlrz d, and have talked to him via phone, and his love for the Steelers, or opinions should never be questioned either.... Thus said, everyone should enjoy the reason everyone posts here and use the different opinions as a method of "growth of knowledge and/or perception"... I'll back out of this now and shut my pie-hole....

Shut up NKY you righteous S.O.B.!!!!

Ha Ha!.... Hey, I haven't posted anywhere in a while, so I thought I'd toss-in a few perceptions from my "lurking" here. I have my own battles to contend with as well....

[costanza2k1]

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This is a DISCUSSION FORUM. It doesn't matter if a fan shows up when they lose or they win. I'll be the first to admit I'm the opposite of most fans. I visit sites a lot less when they lose just because losing hurts enough...I don't need to be reminded of it in every post.

I value everyone's opinion whether I agree with it or not.

THE NAME CALLING MUST STOP, it doesn't add to the discussion and is pretty lame if you ask me.

[AngryAsian]

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This is a DISCUSSION FORUM. It doesn't matter if a fan shows up when they lose or they win. I'll be the first to admit I'm the opposite of most fans. I visit sites a lot less when they lose just because losing hurts enough...I don't need to be reminded of it in every post.

I value everyone's opinion whether I agree with it or not.

THE NAME CALLING MUST STOP, it doesn't add to the discussion and is pretty lame if you ask me.

Logic, in excess!

[pfelix73]

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Chadman has never had a problem with LVG- so long as you are not insulting to other posters, you're entitled to an opinion, no matter how right or wrong you are.

There are some posters that ONLY post after a loss- 'truefan' comes to mind- LVG posts after losses & wins, so it's hard to say that he's anti-steelers, he's here for the good & bad.

Any dislike for Tomlin, FWP, Woodley or any other player is fine- again, so long as it's not insulting to other posters. Chadman has personally had an issue with the abilities of the Steelers CB's for a few years- sometimes Chadman's issues are backed up by poor play from the CB's, sometimes they show Chadman up. Being a Steeler fan isn't about being completely in love with everything that happens in the club. It's about wanting the best for the black & gold.

Now- the Cowher/Tomlin debate.... firstly, Cowher's record speaks for itself- a hugely successful HC & a Steeler legend. Could he have won more SB's? Perhaps, if he hadn't shown so much faith in some players. Chadman wanted Cowher replaced when he left- not because Cowher 'sucked', but because the Steelers stopped playing FOR HIM, and he didn't seem to care. That just shows that he'd had enough. Did Tomlin inherit a great team? Yes & no. There were issues with the roster- decisions that needed to be made, to freshen up the squad & make them competitive once more. The pieces were in place, they just needed....tweeking. And last year showed that Tomlin can 'tweek'. we'll start to see in the next year or so if Tomlin can produce a team of his own, but for now he is overseeing the transition of old players to young- a challenge in itself. Tomlin doesn't 'suck', but it's hard to claim him as 'great' at this point too. Chadman likes what he sees though, as a roster manager. As a HC, on game day, yeah, there are some areas he can improve- but he's young in terms of coaching- experience will most likely make him better. If he's making the same mistakes in 5 years time, there's a problem.

This is what I have been trying to say in this thread. IMO, Tomlin inherited a great team to begin with- just needed tweaking. However, like Chadman suggests, the next few years are key as he will be losing even more talent and we'll see what he and the team does to replace that talent.

I just think that his real coaching abilities and management abilities are ahead of him, and like Chadman says, if the same mistakes are made in 5 years, we have a problem. Tomlin can be inconsistent at times.

I also agree 100% about the CB play. We not only need a Safety like Chadman has been referring too, I hinestly believe we need a pro bowl caliber CB. Ala, Derrelle Revis or Antoine Winfield type. We were 1 pick away from Revis- sickening.

[LasVegasGuy]

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[quote=stlrz d][quote=LasVegasGuy]

LVG is certainly not a troll. His predictions regarding the demise of Parker, give or take one more piss poor performance, appear to be accurate.

I would advise you to click on his profile, search all posts by user and re-think that statement.

Let me know STLRZ-DOUCHE if you find something that isn't Tomlin or FWP related? I think it's apparent to everyone on here I don't have the same lovefest everyone else has for Tomlin or FWP. Don't try to stir up something that isn't there. Just grab your deer piss, tree stand and head off into the woods and wait for Sunday.

[/quote:16pgjy0w]

See NC...not only is he a troll, he's a sad, angry bitter little man who doesn't know the first thing about those whom he attempts to insult.

The last time I hunted with a gun was 27 years ago...and I've never bow hunted...or used any kind of masking agents. Oh yeah, and then there's that matter of me originally being from a metro area of nearly 13 million people...perhaps some of you have [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Metropolitan_Area]heard of it[/url]? [/quote:16pgjy0w]

I guess the same holds true for you as well. You think you know me but you don't know squat.

[LasVegasGuy]

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Chadman has never had a problem with LVG- so long as you are not insulting to other posters, you're entitled to an opinion, no matter how right or wrong you are.

There are some posters that ONLY post after a loss- 'truefan' comes to mind- LVG posts after losses & wins, so it's hard to say that he's anti-steelers, he's here for the good & bad.

Any dislike for Tomlin, FWP, Woodley or any other player is fine- again, so long as it's not insulting to other posters. Chadman has personally had an issue with the abilities of the Steelers CB's for a few years- sometimes Chadman's issues are backed up by poor play from the CB's, sometimes they show Chadman up. Being a Steeler fan isn't about being completely in love with everything that happens in the club. It's about wanting the best for the black & gold.

Now- the Cowher/Tomlin debate.... firstly, Cowher's record speaks for itself- a hugely successful HC & a Steeler legend. Could he have won more SB's? Perhaps, if he hadn't shown so much faith in some players. Chadman wanted Cowher replaced when he left- not because Cowher 'sucked', but because the Steelers stopped playing FOR HIM, and he didn't seem to care. That just shows that he'd had enough. Did Tomlin inherit a great team? Yes & no. There were issues with the roster- decisions that needed to be made, to freshen up the squad & make them competitive once more. The pieces were in place, they just needed....tweeking. And last year showed that Tomlin can 'tweek'. we'll start to see in the next year or so if Tomlin can produce a team of his own, but for now he is overseeing the transition of old players to young- a challenge in itself. Tomlin doesn't 'suck', but it's hard to claim him as 'great' at this point too. Chadman likes what he sees though, as a roster manager. As a HC, on game day, yeah, there are some areas he can improve- but he's young in terms of coaching- experience will most likely make him better. If he's making the same mistakes in 5 years time, there's a problem.

With all due respect I don't think you've honestly paid it close enough attention over the last few years.

He's here to bitch after losses...and even after a win he only shows up to complain about something or to say that he was right about something that he was bitching about previously. Which in this case is Parker. Mendy had one good game against a team that we have historically run well against...but it's "I told you so" time now. He's bitched about Tomlin's hiring since day one. If there is an issue or a loss it is because of Tomlin. If credit is deserved it's directed every where but Tomlin's way.

LVG has proved himself to be racist and hateful back on the trib forum and it's carried over to this one. He joined another board started by Kipper and Toro and the reason I stayed away from that forum was because of him...even though I was invited by a few decent folks to go there. He can spew all his hateful, racist childish crap all he wants there...this is a place where grown ups talk...we don't need his kind of crap here.

Dude, give it a rest already. Not sure what kind of support you are trying to drum up but your act is old. If you want to attack me be my guest but at least be truthful. I'm here win or lose talking about the things that I didn't like. Unlike you I have a job so sometimes I can't log on everyday but I do make it a point to try and log on during the week. If you missed me it was because I was busy earning a living. If what I say offends you I personally don't care.

Why don't you tattle on me some more but when you do make sure you add all the racist comments you direct toward me.

[LasVegasGuy]

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I will also say that I like LVG, and have met him personally. His love for the Steelers should never be questioned. We all are entitled to varying opinions.... I also like stlrz d, and have talked to him via phone, and his love for the Steelers, or opinions should never be questioned either.... Thus said, everyone should enjoy the reason everyone posts here and use the different opinions as a method of "growth of knowledge and/or perception"... I'll back out of this now and shut my pie-hole....

Your two cents is always welcomed by me NKY.

[LasVegasGuy]

Re: Ever notice...

I will also say that I like LVG, and have met him personally. His love for the Steelers should never be questioned. We all are entitled to varying opinions.... I also like stlrz d, and have talked to him via phone, and his love for the Steelers, or opinions should never be questioned either.... Thus said, everyone should enjoy the reason everyone posts here and use the different opinions as a method of "growth of knowledge and/or perception"... I'll back out of this now and shut my pie-hole....

Shut up NKY you righteous S.O.B.!!!!

Ha Ha!.... Hey, I haven't posted anywhere in a while, so I thought I'd toss-in a few perceptions from my "lurking" here. I have my own battles to contend with as well....

That's because he had to be talked down from a ledge after the loss to the Bungles.

[Oviedo]

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Chadman has never had a problem with LVG- so long as you are not insulting to other posters, you're entitled to an opinion, no matter how right or wrong you are.

There are some posters that ONLY post after a loss- 'truefan' comes to mind- LVG posts after losses & wins, so it's hard to say that he's anti-steelers, he's here for the good & bad.

Any dislike for Tomlin, FWP, Woodley or any other player is fine- again, so long as it's not insulting to other posters. Chadman has personally had an issue with the abilities of the Steelers CB's for a few years- sometimes Chadman's issues are backed up by poor play from the CB's, sometimes they show Chadman up. Being a Steeler fan isn't about being completely in love with everything that happens in the club. It's about wanting the best for the black & gold.

Now- the Cowher/Tomlin debate.... firstly, Cowher's record speaks for itself- a hugely successful HC & a Steeler legend. Could he have won more SB's? Perhaps, if he hadn't shown so much faith in some players. Chadman wanted Cowher replaced when he left- not because Cowher 'sucked', but because the Steelers stopped playing FOR HIM, and he didn't seem to care. That just shows that he'd had enough. Did Tomlin inherit a great team? Yes & no. There were issues with the roster- decisions that needed to be made, to freshen up the squad & make them competitive once more. The pieces were in place, they just needed....tweeking. And last year showed that Tomlin can 'tweek'. we'll start to see in the next year or so if Tomlin can produce a team of his own, but for now he is overseeing the transition of old players to young- a challenge in itself. Tomlin doesn't 'suck', but it's hard to claim him as 'great' at this point too. Chadman likes what he sees though, as a roster manager. As a HC, on game day, yeah, there are some areas he can improve- but he's young in terms of coaching- experience will most likely make him better. If he's making the same mistakes in 5 years time, there's a problem.

With all due respect I don't think you've honestly paid it close enough attention over the last few years.

He's here to bitch after losses...and even after a win he only shows up to complain about something or to say that he was right about something that he was bitching about previously. Which in this case is Parker. Mendy had one good game against a team that we have historically run well against...but it's "I told you so" time now. He's bitched about Tomlin's hiring since day one. If there is an issue or a loss it is because of Tomlin. If credit is deserved it's directed every where but Tomlin's way.

LVG has proved himself to be racist and hateful back on the trib forum and it's carried over to this one. He joined another board started by Kipper and Toro and the reason I stayed away from that forum was because of him...even though I was invited by a few decent folks to go there. He can spew all his hateful, racist childish crap all he wants there...this is a place where grown ups talk...we don't need his kind of crap here.

Dude, give it a rest already. Not sure what kind of support you are trying to drum up but your act is old. If you want to attack me be my guest but at least be truthful. I'm here win or lose talking about the things that I didn't like. Unlike you I have a job so sometimes I can't log on everyday but I do make it a point to try and log on during the week. If you missed me it was because I was busy earning a living. If what I say offends you I personally don't care.

Why don't you tattle on me some more but when you do make sure you add all the racist comments you direct toward me.

I think the issue is captured in your own words

I'm here win or lose talking about the things that I didn't like.

You always have something you DON'T like but no one can recall recently anything that you DO like. Just comes across as constant bashing and grinding an axe. That is OK if you just have a negative outlook on life in general because that is unfortunately your life. But, I think that is why so many view you as a "troll" and many dismiss so much of what you write.

You always weren't that way but in the last two years that has been your predominant style and theme.

[frankthetank1]

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It's still is a group of players mostly from the Cowher era. You can't say it isn't. Go down through the roster and take a look.

Yes, as each year passes, there is more turnover, but there are still (without going down through the roster) close to 15 starters that are from the old regime.

On O the new starters not from the Cowher era are Hartwig and C. Davis.

On D you have Woodley, Timmons, and Gay.

The rest were already here.

Just be realistic.

I never understood why this was such a big deal. Name one coach who fired 53 players and started over. Tomlins job is to keep winning..

I could see if Cowher had 4 rings but he lost a ton of AFCCG's.. his era was filled with great a win % and a dismal AFCCG record.

But in Cowher's defense the minute he was given a franchise quarterback he won a Super Bowl. The same franchise quarterback that Tomlin has today. Plus, he ran up against some pretty good Patriot teams and John Elway.

please the minute he was GIVEN a franchise qb? cowher didnt even want ben, it was all dan rooney with picking ben. if cowher had his way he would of drafted differently and would have never won a sb

[Jooser]

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This is a DISCUSSION FORUM. It doesn't matter if a fan shows up when they lose or they win. I'll be the first to admit I'm the opposite of most fans. I visit sites a lot less when they lose just because losing hurts enough...I don't need to be reminded of it in every post.

I value everyone's opinion whether I agree with it or not.

THE NAME CALLING MUST STOP, it doesn't add to the discussion and is pretty lame if you ask me.

SERENITY NOW!


shrinkage sucks, huh George.

[frankthetank1]

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Also in Cowher's defense, I believe he had the best record in the NFL for his enitre tenure of what? 15 years or so. He was consistent in his coaching and had a great nucleus of players for most of the 2000's decade up until he stepped down.

Whoever took over was to benefit from that.

the same could be said about cowher when he took over for chuck noll. the steelers were a solid team, not great but solid when cowher became the head coach. you can always use the same arguement for any coach that has taken over a good team

[NC Steeler Fan]

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[quote=LasVegasGuy][quote=stlrz d]

LVG is certainly not a troll. His predictions regarding the demise of Parker, give or take one more piss poor performance, appear to be accurate.

I would advise you to click on his profile, search all posts by user and re-think that statement.

Let me know STLRZ-DOUCHE if you find something that isn't Tomlin or FWP related? I think it's apparent to everyone on here I don't have the same lovefest everyone else has for Tomlin or FWP. Don't try to stir up something that isn't there. Just grab your deer piss, tree stand and head off into the woods and wait for Sunday.

See NC...not only is he a troll, he's a sad, angry bitter little man who doesn't know the first thing about those whom he attempts to insult.

The last time I hunted with a gun was 27 years ago...and I've never bow hunted...or used any kind of masking agents. Oh yeah, and then there's that matter of me originally being from a metro area of nearly 13 million people...perhaps some of you have [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Metropolitan_Area]heard of it[/url]? [/quote:3hlvtam8]

I guess the same holds true for you as well. You think you know me but you don't know squat.[/quote:3hlvtam8]

Okay, dammit....now I AM pis sed...

I happen to deer hunt...bow and rifle...

Geezus, you guys can't win for losin', eh?

[Jooser]

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You shot Bambi!

Just kidding, I live in WV, we eat Bambi off the interstate. LMAO!

[RuthlessBurgher]

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You shot Bambi!

Just kidding, I live in WV, we eat Bambi off the interstate. LMAO!

No...she shot Bambi's mom. Girl on girl crime. Almost an interspecies cat fight.

BTW, I think the pink turtleneck kind of ruins the whole concept of camoflauge. It is difficult to pretend that you are a tree with a fuchsia-colored neck-line showing through.