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[Djfan]

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I truely miss C*ockface. I looked forward to his posts. They were humor in the extreme.

[feltdizz]

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LVG was quality but I noticed he kept harping on the Jags loss in the playoffs as proof Tomlin can't be trusted.

I just don't understand how a fan can expect a rookie coach to win a SB or he is a bust.

[RuthlessBurgher]

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I just don't understand how a fan can expect a rookie coach to win a SB or he is a bust.

I don't understand how a fan can watch a second year coach win a SB and still think he is a bust.

[proudpittsburgher]

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I just don't understand how a fan can expect a rookie coach to win a SB or he is a bust.

I don't understand how a fan can watch a second year coach win a SB and still think he is a bust.

winner winner chicken dinner. There are some people who's ego's won't let them say something like, gasp, I was wrong, gasp. So when guys like that pick a side, they will never leave that side, no matter what. And in most cases, it makes them come off as foolish in the process. It's a neverending pursuit for them.

[anger 82&95]

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LVG is certainly not a troll. His predictions regarding the demise of Parker, give or take one more piss poor performance, appear to be accurate.

[Jooser]

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I thought HHH was Archie Bunker reincarnate.

[proudpittsburgher]

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LVG is certainly not a troll. His predictions regarding the demise of Parker, give or take one more piss poor performance, appear to be accurate.

It wasn't about his predicting the demise of Parker, rather he had Mendenhall starting week 1 one of his rookie season over FW. I believe that's what most were arguing, but he seemed to think everyone who didn't want to start a rook over thousand-yard back was an idiot. I don't think anyone had a problem with seeing that Mendenhall had the potential to end up being a more complete back eventually. But if memory serves me correctly, that's wasn't his take, or at least that's not how he presented it.

[papillon]

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Dissenting opinion is good for the board; what isn't good for the board is being so steadfast in your belief that you believe anyone that disagrees with you to be an idiot.

Pappy

[proudpittsburgher]

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Dissenting opinion is good for the board; what isn't good for the board is being so steadfast in your belief that you believe anyone that disagrees with you to be an idiot.

Pappy

Bingo. You are so wise, oh pappy.

[pfelix73]

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I think Tomlin is a good coach. However, there are times when he is inconsistent in his decisions and that could just be because he is new at being the main man. I do believe that his real coaching skills will be put to the test when this team starts on its downward spiral. I think all teams go through cycles, especially the good ones, and maybe we are starting to see that now with some of the veterans getting up there in age and past their primes.

Tomlin was given the reigns of a team already with a solid nucleus and a franchise QB. He didn't take over the Rams or Raiders, he took over a winning franchise with a lot of talent. Some of that talent will/is inevitably be leaving via FA, retirement, etc. It's how he and his staff who he is the boss of, continues to build the entire 'team'. This also includes what he does in the off season when he evaluates his coaching staff and decides who he keeps and lets go.

Let's remember that Switzer won a SB after JJ left the Cowgirls. I'm not saying Tomlin is another Switzer, but Switzer only won that SB against us, because of what JJ and his staff already had. History showed that Switzer was eventually fired because he couldn't keep up with the losses due to retirement, etc. Tomlin's time for this adjustment is coming soon, and we'll see how he handles it. I think he will handle it fairly well, but that's just a guess......

[BDESteel]

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I think Tomlin is a good coach. However, there are times when he is inconsistent in his decisions and that could just be because he is new at being the main man. I do believe that his real coaching skills will be put to the test when this team starts on its downward spiral. I think all teams go through cycles, especially the good ones, and maybe we are starting to see that now with some of the veterans getting up there in age and past their primes.

Tomlin was given the reigns of a team already with a solid nucleus and a franchise QB. He didn't take over the Rams or Raiders, he took over a winning franchise with a lot of talent. Some of that talent will/is inevitably be leaving via FA, retirement, etc. It's how he and his staff who he is the boss of, continues to build the entire 'team'. This also includes what he does in the off season when he evaluates his coaching staff and decides who he keeps and lets go.

Let's remember that Switzer won a SB after JJ left the Cowgirls. I'm not saying Tomlin is another Switzer, but Switzer only won that SB against us, because of what JJ and his staff already had. History showed that Switzer was eventually fired because he couldn't keep up with the losses due to retirement, etc. Tomlin's time for this adjustment is coming soon, and we'll see how he handles it. I think he will handle it fairly well, but that's just a guess......

Really, Woodley for Porter, Timmons for Foote, Mendy for Parker, Wallace for Sweed who was supposed to be for Washington, plus all the o-line changes. I think Coach T has already shown he can make adjustments to keep this team successful. Remember how well the Steelers did Cowher's final season as a coach.

[pfelix73]

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3 of your 4 examples there are still up in the air.

Mendy has 1 good game and he's crowned the next Emmitt Smith, and Timmons is so-so at this point. He seems to have the ability, but he has to get better. He didn't have a good 2nd half against the Bolts. He totally got owned when he went up against Gates there on a few plays. One of his TD's as a matter of fact. Timmons missed a few tackles.

A 2nd round draft pick was used/ wasted on Sweed.

So, what's your argument again?

[snarky]

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I don't understand why the draft picks are continually hung on Tomlin (or credited to him) since none of us really know what input he has on the draft. I mean, it seems pretty clear that he doesn't make these picks by himself (since Cowher was apparently overridden when they took Ben). So really it's the results on the field that matter the most (IMHO) and not whether an individual player does or doesn't work out.

No doubt he has come into a situation where the team was capable of winning the SB. But as we all know, they were capable of going 8-8 too. I know there is this school of thought that he was a passenger for the SB. But seriously, in a league this competitive, could a team really survive if the HC was a passenger? Are there people who really believe that?

[pfelix73]

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Yea, you are right. I wasn't going to respond to that post regarding Timmons, Woodley, etc. but did anyway.

We will never know, but I would assume that with each passing year, he becomes more entrenched in those decisions. I'd imagine that his 1st year, he had say in the matter, but Colbert was/is calling the shots. Again, successful companies, organizations, etc. are successful because they have a 'team' effort in getting things done, so I'm sure the entire coaching staff has something to say on who gets drafted.


As far as the passenger statement- maybe to some degree he was, but he still put his coaching and into as well. He did have LeBeau stay- which he had no choice in the matter, and even though he had a new OC, the offense stayed the same as far as the terminology, etc is concerned.

[stlrz d]

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Dissenting opinion is good for the board; what isn't good for the board is being so steadfast in your belief that you believe anyone that disagrees with you to be an idiot.

Pappy

I disagree you idiot!

(I can't believe yinz left that low hanging fruit for me).