Mike Tomlin Pulled The Reins On Deep Passing Game Last Year

[Captain Lemming]

No, thank God it wasn't, having lost to those two teams collectively 73-16, and both games could have easily been bigger blow outs. Whoever thought Shades should have been considered for Coach of the Year consideration should re-watch those two games and reconsider; "blows outs" don't even come close to descriptive enough rhetoric. Those games were worse than Alabama vs. Slippery Rock.

Even if they were bigger blowouts they still only account for 2 losses.

This is the problem with folks who focus on scoring totals in wins and losses.

THIS!!!!

If we scored 25 in those losses so they outscored us 73-50 it does not change anything.

I would contend that you cannot attribute A SINGLE ACTUAL LOSS to being overly conservative.

Simple question whisper.
What specific games do you think we LOST because we were too SAFE?

[feltdizz]

THIS!!!!

If we scored 25 in those losses so they outscored us 73-50 it does not change anything.

I would contend that you cannot attribute A SINGLE ACTUAL LOSS to being overly conservative.

Simple question whisper.
What specific games do you think we LOST because we were too SAFE?

I truly believe if we scored more in those losses it would be used against us in low scoring wins.

“offense is regressing”

[LPMAN]

the coach isn?t responsible for that

lololol

My first sentence puts the blame on the coach. What are you talking about?

[LPMAN]

What the steelers need with their passing game is to be at least above 7.0 yards per pass attempts or better.This is the goal

Couldn't agree more!

[LPMAN]

Ben couldn't throw deep after his elbow injury....He was one of the worst passers in pass of 20 yards or more in 2020 and 2021....What more did you want Tomlin to do in this situation?

For 2019, the steelers had 30 turnovers in offense(one of the worst in the NFL), maybe it would have been better to be even more conservative than that...Same for the first half last year when they had 14 turnovers in 8 games and that they lost against 4 average or below average team in his 8 games

Last year's second half was the first time since 2019, we had at least a average offense, so they did some good thing, now they need to take the next step, which is to have more big play.

Honestly? You won't like my answer but i would have benched Ben or forced him into retirement if he could no longer throw long. No different then when Ward & Troy couldn't do it anymore.

[NJ-STEELER]

My first sentence puts the blame on the coach. What are you talking about?

It was sarcasm to those that think the head coaching job is just to stand there and spew word salad to the media

[feltdizz]

Honestly? You won't like my answer but i would have benched Ben or forced him into retirement if he could no longer throw long. No different then when Ward & Troy couldn't do it anymore.

Not happening. Rooney was the one who wanted to bring Ben back. No way they bench Ben his last year. They tried that in NY with Eli and it was a PR nightmare.

[LPMAN]

Not happening. Rooney was the one who wanted to bring Ben back. No way they bench Ben his last year. They tried that in NY with Eli and it was a PR nightmare.

I agree. But he's asking me a hypothetical as if i have control.

[Polamalubeast]

THIS!!!!

If we scored 25 in those losses so they outscored us 73-50 it does not change anything.

I would contend that you cannot attribute A SINGLE ACTUAL LOSS to being overly conservative.

Simple question whisper.
What specific games do you think we LOST because we were too SAFE?

Whisper can't respond to this

[feltdizz]

Whisper can't respond to this

Most of the people who complain about being too safe didn’t have us in the playoff’s to begin with.

Its not that we were too safe, they just wanted us to score 40 points to show that we could compete with the big boys this year.

You can’t carry points from one game to the next so it doesn’t really matter but it makes for better stat rankings.

Its like when I pointed out that Etienne’s highest yard per carry games mostly resulted in losses while most of the games with more carries and an average below 4 yards resulted in wins.

Do you want to win games or just brag about ppg rankings?

[feltdizz]

I agree. But he's asking me a hypothetical as if i have control.

I mean, if we are being honest clearly Colbert and Tomlin also didn?t have control.

"It was mostly Kevin [Colbert]. He was ready to move on. I think Mike [Tomlin] was a little ready to move on, but I think he was OK with me coming back," Roethlisberger said. "I think Mr. [Art] Rooney really wanted me to come back last year to play."

What do you do?

[WindyCitySteel]

Even if they were bigger blowouts they still only account for 2 losses.

This is the problem with folks who focus on scoring totals in wins and losses.

If Philly and Buffalo scored more points it would still count as 2 losses.

This idea that winning 27 to 23
vs 16 to 13 means we are a better team is silly.

We lost games to teams not named Buffalo or Philly in which we scored 14, 17, 20, 10, and 14. Four of those would have been won with one more TD. Only one of those teams made the playoffs, but we played their backup QB.

Don't need a high-flying offense to win those games, might need one where the defenders aren't all calling out the plays before the snap, though.

[Polamalubeast]

We lost games to teams not named Buffalo or Philly in which we scored 14, 17, 20, 10, and 14. Four of those would have been won with one more TD. Only one of those teams made the playoffs, but we played their backup QB.

Don't need a high-flying offense to win those games, might need one where the defenders aren't all calling out the plays before the snap, though.

We all know that in the first half the steelers were one of the worst offense and team in the league....Tomlin make some change after the bye week and they were better after that even if they were not elite yet

The problem is you fail to recognize the Steelers were an improved team in the second half and Tomlin was right to be more conservative.

The offense was much better in ball control, 3rd down offense and to protect the ball with only 5 turnovers in 9 games(3 of those was by Trubisky vs ravens)...And now in the training camp, they are working to be better to make big play...hopefully it will pay off in the regular season...That's their goal

[feltdizz]

We lost games to teams not named Buffalo or Philly in which we scored 14, 17, 20, 10, and 14. Four of those would have been won with one more TD. Only one of those teams made the playoffs, but we played their backup QB.

Don't need a high-flying offense to win those games, might need one where the defenders aren't all calling out the plays before the snap, though.

and how many turnovers did we have in those games?

14 - NE - 2 turnovers
17 - CLE -1 meaningless turnover
20 - NYJ - 4 turnovers
10 - MIA - 3 turnovers
14 - BAL - 3 turnovers

A more conservative approach probably wins another game.

Goes to show when we protect the ball the chances of winning are much higher.

[whisper]

We lost games to teams not named Buffalo or Philly in which we scored 14, 17, 20, 10, and 14. Four of those would have been won with one more TD. Only one of those teams made the playoffs, but we played their backup QB.

Don't need a high-flying offense to win those games, might need one where the defenders aren't all calling out the plays before the snap, though.

"Ouch baby, very ouch."