Mike Tomlin Pulled The Reins On Deep Passing Game Last Year

[feltdizz]

Ben couldn't throw deep after his elbow injury....He was one of the worst passers in pass of 20 yards or more in 2020 and 2021....What more did you want Tomlin to do in this situation?

For 2019, the steelers had 30 turnovers in offense(one of the worst in the NFL), maybe it would have been better to be even more conservative than that...Same for the first half last year when they had 14 turnovers in 8 games and that they lost against 4 average or below average team in his 8 games

Last year's second half was the first time since 2019, we had at least a average offense, so they did some good thing, now they need to take the next step, which is to have more big play.

Probably why there were rumors Tomlin and Colbert wanted to move on from Ben after 2020.

[NJ-STEELER]

Ben couldn't throw deep after his elbow injury....He was one of the worst passers in pass of 20 yards or more in 2020 and 2021....What more did you want Tomlin to do in this situation?
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Why wouldn’t they wait for the Med report on his elbow before trading away a future 1st

[whisper]

funny you ignore my post 34....No, our losses in the first half weren't all against the Eagles and the Bills...

What's your point? That we lost to some bad teams early on? Is that supposed to be a good thing? I don't get it. We lost to the Browns, before them sucking settled into their conscious. We lost to the Pats, when they still thought they were gonna be a contender. We lost to the Jets, as many teams did with poor/rookie QBs. And then the Bills and Eagles beat us collectively 73-16. What do you want from me? Those two playoff teams slobberknockered us to oblivion. And both scores could have easily been worse.

[WindyCitySteel]

Mike Tomlin Pulled The Reins On Deep Passing Game Last Year: ?We Just Weren?t Interested In A Whole Bunch Of Negativity?

https://steelersdepot.com/2023/08/mi...medium=twitter

He lives in his fears.

[WindyCitySteel]

The steelers had 17 turnovers in their 8 losses last year and only 2 turnovers in their 9 wins, so Tomlin was 100% right to be more conservative after the bye week...Sure, at some point we'll have to open that up more but not need to be stupid in this too

One way or another the steelers weren't a super bowl contender last year, so limiting mistakes gave them the best chance of winning in 2022!

They weren't winging the ball downfield in the losses, they just played better teams. Playing scared is for losers.

[WindyCitySteel]

Tomlin has been doing this since Ben tore his arm. The problem is not attempting long passes hurts the short passing game & the running game because the entire defense is in the box. And it goes directly against Tomlins own cliche "Don't live in your own fears".

It makes every players job on offense that much harder.

1) Wanna know why DJ sometimes doesn't look a short pass in the whole way dropping it because he's looking to run before the catch ? BECAUSE THE ENTIRE DEFENSE IS N THE BOX

2) Wanna know why offensive lineman are jumping offsides & holding so much because they have such poor angles to block off the snap? BECAUSE THE ENTIRE DEFENSE IS N THE BOX

3) Wanna know why Pat F has a hard time finding a deadspot in the defense? BECAUSE THE ENTIRE DEFENSE IS N THE BOX

4) Wann aknow why Najee can't let the play develop more & has to hit non holes so often? BECAUSE THE ENTIRE DEFENSE IS N THE BOX

5) Why it take 3 straight passes to be completed to get 10 yards & a first down ? BECAUSE THE ENTIRE DEFENSE IS N THE BOX

No lies detected. The Steelers have to work incredibly hard to gain yards because they fool no one, every yard gained is a titanic struggle. It's a stale franchise with a stale philosophy, the game has passed them by.

[Captain Lemming]

They weren't winging the ball downfield in the losses, they just played better teams. Playing scared is for losers.

You are on record as being willing to take losses while pursuing silly style points.

I would suggest a strategy that results in more losses is quite literally for losers.

[Captain Lemming]

No lies detected. The Steelers have to work incredibly hard to gain yards because they fool no one, every yard gained is a titanic struggle. It's a stale franchise with a stale philosophy, the game has passed them by.

Interesting observations by Moats on what he is seeing. Some of the very stuff you have been calling for.

[Polamalubeast]

What's your point? That we lost to some bad teams early on? Is that supposed to be a good thing? I don't get it. We lost to the Browns, before them sucking settled into their conscious. We lost to the Pats, when they still thought they were gonna be a contender. We lost to the Jets, as many teams did with poor/rookie QBs. And then the Bills and Eagles beat us collectively 73-16. What do you want from me? Those two playoff teams slobberknockered us to oblivion. And both scores could have easily been worse.

My point, that they were a much better team in the second half of the season even though it was still not at the level of the bills and eagles

They weren't winging the ball downfield in the losses, they just played better teams. Playing scared is for losers.

Again, they lost to 4 below or 4 averages team in the first half...You acted like our schedule was only against the bills and eagles

[feltdizz]

My point, that they were a much better team in the second half of the season even though it was still not at the level of the bills and eagles



Again, they lost to 4 below or 4 averages team in the first half...You acted like our schedule was only against the bills and eagles

they wanted it to be only against the Bills and Eagles.

You are going to play more middle of the pack teams than top tier teams. These are games they claimed Tomlin would lose back in the day.

They actually wanted to lose more games and put up better stats so they could win hypothetically win more games in the offseason.

[whisper]

Again, they lost to 4 below or 4 averages team in the first half...You acted like our schedule was only against the bills and eagles

No, thank God it wasn't, having lost to those two teams collectively 73-16, and both games could have easily been bigger blow outs. Whoever thought Shades should have been considered for Coach of the Year consideration should re-watch those two games and reconsider; "blows outs" don't even come close to descriptive enough rhetoric. Those games were worse than Alabama vs. Slippery Rock.

[Polamalubeast]

No, thank God it wasn't, having lost to those two teams collectively 73-16, and both games could have easily been bigger blow outs. Whoever thought Shades should have been considered for Coach of the Year consideration should re-watch those two games and reconsider; "blows outs" don't even come close to descriptive enough rhetoric. Those games were worse than Alabama vs. Slippery Rock.

You love to ignore my point and ignore that the steelers were better in the second half despite similar schedule outside of the Bills and Eagles.....Just a stats for you on offense below and this is despite our lack of big play and red zone issues

https://twitter.com/WilliamsonNFL/status/1677002848700071964

The steelers offense will take another step if they improve their red zone issue and big play.The good news is that they attempts a lot more big plays in the training camp than in the past, so hopefully that will continue but if the Steelers have too many turnovers on offense, Tomlin will have no choice but to be ultra conservative once again and we can't blame him.

[NorthCoast]

If one cared to look at the average yds/pass attempt in wins vs losses one would find that they are mathematically within a 0.1 yd/att (yes, the decimal point is in the right place).

[feltdizz]

No, thank God it wasn't, having lost to those two teams collectively 73-16, and both games could have easily been bigger blow outs. Whoever thought Shades should have been considered for Coach of the Year consideration should re-watch those two games and reconsider; "blows outs" don't even come close to descriptive enough rhetoric. Those games were worse than Alabama vs. Slippery Rock.

Even if they were bigger blowouts they still only account for 2 losses.

This is the problem with folks who focus on scoring totals in wins and losses.

If Philly and Buffalo scored more points it would still count as 2 losses.

This idea that winning 27 to 23
vs 16 to 13 means we are a better team is silly.

[Polamalubeast]

If one cared to look at the average yds/pass attempt in wins vs losses one would find that they are mathematically within a 0.1 yd/att (yes, the decimal point is in the right place).

What the steelers need with their passing game is to be at least above 7.0 yards per pass attempts or better.This is the goal