The difference between Purdy and Pickett

[blacknblue80s]

It's the playaction schemes run by Shanahan that give Purdy wide open receivers.

I posted the article above but it's hard to read because it's dark.

[Steel Maniac]

It's the schemes.

I read an article at Steel City Insiders by Matt Steel that explains it way better than I could. It's posted above but hard to read because it's dark.

Of course it's the schemes; you just have guys who don't want to face the truth that there are coaches who can "scheme" like that. Sad.

[Mr.wizard]

Sure, he did have losing seasons. I don't follow them enough to know why.

But what they are doing now is pretty remarkable. And while I guess Philly did something similar with Foles, it doesn't happen very often IMO.

But the point is, it is the same scheme during the losing seasons and the winning seasons the only thing that changes is the personnel.

[Mr.wizard]

the scheme was drafting in the top 10 for 4 years.

This is what I posted earlier about these guys swinging on the flavor of the month but not being able to stomach the down years to get there. These dudes can’t even appreciate non-losing seasons while rebuilding so you know a 4 win season would send them over the edge. Look how they were acting at 2-6?

People also forget they didn't start the season well either, They started 3-4 and there losses were:

Bears
Broncos
Falcons
Chiefs

[Steel Maniac]

It's the playaction schemes run by Shanahan that give Purdy wide open receivers.

I posted the article above but it's hard to read because it's dark.

It's the modern day NFL; we have coaches like Shanahan/Reid / McVay who's offensive schemes and philosophies allow them to win playoff games, reach Super Bowls. That's how the game is done today. I think with most of the rule changes as of the last 6-7 years that have been slanted toward favoring the offense, these coaches philosophies have gained more power in the NFL.

But I'm not disregarding the fact that 3 out of the 4 teams left in the conference championships have good to great defenses as well. But..at the same time, look at the offenses on those teams. It's a good marriage these teams have in offense/defense.

[hawaiiansteel]

But the point is, it is the same scheme during the losing seasons and the winning seasons the only thing that changes is the personnel.

adding CMC sure helped Shanahan's "scheme".

[whisper]

adding CMC sure helped Shanahan's "scheme".

They were already good without CMC, he just made them better.

[Mr.wizard]

adding CMC sure helped Shanahan's "scheme".

Exactly, why add that CMC contract if the scheme is going to win all the games.

[crushedspirit]

Shanny had just about every major player injured during the 2020 season, so I don't even look at it. I think only the water boys and athletic trainers were left. I believe a stat was shown where it was the 2nd highest man games lost total in the past 20 years of the NFL.

This was by week 11 LOL,

[Monalo]

Okay the whole Shanahan thing is getting crazy. They idea that you just scheme guys open in the nfl is ridiculous. If this was the case then Shanahan should be the highest paid guy in the NFL. No need to draft a top QB or Wr's no need to pay anybody, you just need to scheme them open. Shanahan is a good coach but people are getting ridiculous with this scheme talk. The reason the Niners are effecient on offense is because they are a matchup nightmare, CMC, Deebo, Aiyuk, Kittle, a good Oline, Elite defense. Where was the "scheme" when he went 4-12, 6-10, 6-10?

And add that corny Boom shacka lacka line here, if you like.

[Northern_Blitz]

IMO the difference is settling for more FG’s with Kenny in the RZ.

I think if we thew out Canada’s first year we would admit the O was trash with Mitch, Kenny struggled early and after the bye the O turned the corner. Fans might still be mad but I think they may have more optimism because they aren’t using Ben’s last year as an indictment of the offense.

No idea about the amount of RZ trip averages between Ben and Kenny but I wouldn’t be surprised if Kenny had more trips but less success.

I think we will turn more of those FG attempts to TD’s next year. Boz also had a down year as well.

I don't need to throw out Ben's year to agree that (1) the offense with Mitch was terrible and (2) it got better with KP.

I think that's more about the talent difference between Mitch and KP than it is about Canada.

Note: I do think Mitch's RZ numbers are better than KPs. But I'm not sure what the sample sizes look like.

[Steel Maniac]

Shanny had just about every major player injured during the 2020 season, so I don't even look at it. I think only the water boys and athletic trainers were left. I believe a stat was shown where it was the 2nd highest man games lost total in the past 20 years of the NFL.

This was by week 11 LOL,

Can't argue with the results; winning playoff games; back to back NFC championship game appearances. Went to the Super Bowl 3 years ago as well; what he's doing is working.

[whisper]

Of course it's the schemes; you just have guys who don't want to face the truth that there are coaches who can "scheme" like that. Sad.

It's so obvious that it's the schemes, come on. It's like Shades and Canada are drawing up their plays in crayon compared to Shanahan's ball point. As Steve Smith said, "Canada's schemes are Saturday-ish," however, I feel many colleges are vastly more complex and better, Canada's schemes are more "Friday-night-ish" as in high school. I mean, how much more obvious does it get. So obvious, that defenders actually make fun of their play calling.

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/11/they-like-to-do-the-same-plays-over-and-over-bengals-lb-says-they-knew-what-steelers-would-run-in-2nd-half/

"We knew what they were going to do. They like running the same plays over and over again."

[Steel Maniac]

It's so obvious that it's the schemes, come on. It's like Shades and Canada are drawing up their plays in crayon compared to Shanahan's ball point. As Steve Smith said, "Canada's schemes are Saturday-ish," however, I feel many colleges are vastly more complex and better, Canada's schemes are more "Friday-night-ish" as in high school. I mean, how much more obvious does it get. So obvious, that defenders actually make fun of their play calling.

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/11/they-like-to-do-the-same-plays-over-and-over-bengals-lb-says-they-knew-what-steelers-would-run-in-2nd-half/

"We knew what they were going to do. They like running the same plays over and over again."

Look at the results...........

Super Bowl appearance 3 years ago, back to back NFC Championship game appearances. He's winning playoff games and advancing. Can't argue with the results.

The results over time speak for themselves on who's doing right and who's doing wrong. You can't argue with results.

[Monalo]

It's the playaction schemes run by Shanahan that give Purdy wide open receivers.

I posted the article above but it's hard to read because it's dark.

I disagree. Play action is most effective when you have a serious threat at RB and a good run blocking OL.
A good ground game brings defenders into the box forcing, them to retreat on play action.
And there is also the WRs with good routes, good breaks and finding holes in zone that get them open.
As I've stated before, there's a lot more to receivers getting open than scheme.