Shades better than McVay?

[NJ-STEELER]

It’s easy to see who is better. Instead of debating that, I’ll just try to answer a question often asked when the topic of replacing tomlin cones up.

who you gonna get… well who did the Rams get when they were done with fisher

[feltdizz]

It’s easy to see who is better. Instead of debating that, I’ll just try to answer a question often asked when the topic of replacing tomlin cones up.

who you gonna get… well who did the Rams get when they were done with fisher

We have been pretty good with selecting coaches.. but who is to say we would pick the next McVay vs a Josh McDaniel who may look the part but not have that thing we crave?

[NJ-STEELER]

We have been pretty good with selecting coaches.. but who is to say we would pick the next McVay vs a Josh McDaniel who may look the part but not have that thing we crave?

through the interview process.

the sane way they found tomlin

[crushedspirit]

Wasn’t Aaron Darnold just swinging helmets in a joint practice?

Isn’t Jalen Ramsey a trash talking DB? A good one but a trash talker none the less who was burnt for like 200 yards in the SB and lucky as hell Burrow was pressured on that last play because..

I'm not sure the relevance? I was speaking in terms of their offensive scheming and approach, and how it has made them successful, (11-5 combined playoff record, and 3 SB appearances in the span of 5 seasons), while both taking over teams that were basically dead in the water with no QBs to speak of.

[TheRealTazz864]

Shades better than McVay?

Joe Biden doesn't coach football and isn't the Super Bowl indoors??

[WindyCitySteel]

oh, in your opinion tree is only FIRST experience? that'll shrivel down a lot of trees...

He was in the league 16 years before the Steelers hired him, already was a coordinator with Cleveland. He was with two teams between his time with the Steelers and his SB team. Hardly a Tomlin disciple or protege.

If Mike Munchak gets another HC job and wins it all, whose tree is he from?

[crushedspirit]

I'm not sure how anyone can tie Arians to a Tomlin coaching tree.

[hawaiiansteel]

Mike Tomlin coaching tree:

[TheRealTazz864]

I'm not sure how anyone can tie Arians to a Tomlin coaching tree.

Wasn't Bruce Arians OC when Tomlin won the Super Bowl?? That's pretty deciduous...

[Bawb the Revelator]

Wasn't Bruce Arians OC when Tomlin won the Super Bowl?? That's pretty deciduous...

Taz, the Miller Analogies Test is used by MENSA for applicants to the Lonely Hearts Club for high IQ people. Supposedly my score in 1962 was UCLA's record. Big phuquing deal but I thought you'd like to know, anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller_Analogies_Test

[Oviedo]

Wasn’t Aaron Darnold just swinging helmets in a joint practice?

Isn’t Jalen Ramsey a trash talking DB? A good one but a trash talker none the less who was burnt for like 200 yards in the SB and lucky as hell Burrow was pressured on that last play because..

i guess McVey isn’t “cool” so his players actions don’t negatively reflect on him. It’s only attributed to Tomlin

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Wasn't Bruce Arians OC when Tomlin won the Super Bowl?? That's pretty deciduous...

He was a Cowher hire. The coaching tree is based on guys you hire. Tomlin hired Haley and Canada. Call them what you like.

[Northern_Blitz]

He was a Cowher hire. The coaching tree is based on guys you hire. Tomlin hired Haley and Canada. Call them what you like.

Are you sure this is true?

He was hired the same year Mike Tomlin was hired so it seems unlikely that Cower was the one that hired Ariens.

I get that it would fit your narrative but I'm not sure that it's true.

Edited to add: BC hired him as a position coach, which I guess is what you mean. But he had lots of coaching experience already. Coaching tree conversations are kind of still imo, because you never really know where the root is.

Look at BB. Lots of good coaches got jobs. But most kind of sucked

[feltdizz]

Are you sure this is true?

He was hired the same year Mike Tomlin was hired so it seems unlikely that Cower was the one that hired Ariens.

I get that it would fit your narrative but I'm not sure that it's true.

Edited to add: BC hired him as a position coach, which I guess is what you mean. But he had lots of coaching experience already. Coaching tree conversations are kind of still imo, because you never really know where the root is.

Look at BB. Lots of good coaches got jobs. But most kind of sucked

its a silly argument IMO.

and its not like Arians was given a head coaching gig because he was once the ON in Cleveland.

He got the chance because of what he did with Ben in Pittsburgh under Tomlin.

and he was fired/retired from the Steelers so Cowher and Tomlin shouldn’t really get any credit for Arians success.

If Reich doesn’t get cancer Arians may have never been given a shot at being a head coach.

[WindyCitySteel]

He's from the Schottenheimer tree, period - that's who gave him his first NFL job. Just picking the job he got in the middle of his career as the starting point because it's your favorite team and coach is a little ridiculous.