Shades better than McVay?

[whisper]

Some have tried to suggest it in here. Nonsense.

SM won the SB last year and appeared in another a few years ago. In that same span, Shades has not even won ONE playoff game.

Not only that, SM built the team he won the SB with; he didn't inherit 90-some % of the team like Shades did. Also, SM has a plethora of spin off coaches who are sprinkled throughout the NFL, many being head coaches, including one who also took his team to the SB last year in only his 3rd season as head coach. Where are all of Shades ex-coaches among the NFL landscape? Why does he have zero?

For those who asked over the years, "But who would you replace Shades with?" Easy. McVay was a young coach out there who was available. Pgh could have replaced Shades with SM. So asking that question is immediately FAIL.

And free agent attraction? McVay attracts more high profile FAs than any head coach does, with ease.

[hawaiiansteel]

Some have tried to suggest it in here. Nonsense.

show me one link where someone said Tomlin was a better HC than McVay...

[feltdizz]

you mean LA attracts more free agents.

what player doesn’t want to be in LA and have a chance at more off field business opportunities?

but here is the thing, McVay has been a head coach for 5 or 6 years.

Compare Tomlin’s first 6 years to McVays..

and the lack of draft picks and Darnold, Ramsey and Kupps contracts will force the Rams to make some business decisions in a year or 2.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Where are all of Shades ex-coaches among the NFL landscape? Why does he have zero?

He does 1 SB from his coaching tree, fwiw

[Captain Lemming]

Some have tried to suggest it in here. Nonsense.

SM won the SB last year and appeared in another a few years ago. In that same span, Shades has not even won ONE playoff game.

Not only that, SM built the team he won the SB with; he didn't inherit 90-some % of the team like Shades did. Also, SM has a plethora of spin off coaches who are sprinkled throughout the NFL, many being head coaches, including one who also took his team to the SB last year in only his 3rd season as head coach. Where are all of Shades ex-coaches among the NFL landscape? Why does he have zero?

For those who asked over the years, "But who would you replace Shades with?" Easy. McVay was a young coach out there who was available. Pgh could have replaced Shades with SM. So asking that question is immediately FAIL.

And free agent attraction? McVay attracts more high profile FAs than any head coach does, with ease.

McVay is an awesome coach. That is what happens when you learn from a great mentor:

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/02/rams-hc-sean-mcvay-calls-mike-tomlin-a-mentor-and-a-great-example-for-all-leaders/#:~:text=Rams%20HC%20Sean%20McVay%20Calls%20Mike%20Tomlin%20A,won%20in%202018%20at%20the%20age%20of%2033.

[whisper]

McVay is an awesome coach. That is what happens when you learn from a great mentor:

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/02/ra...age%20of%2033.

I wonder where he puts Hoodie on the scale, a HC who he admits outcoached him in his 1st SB?

[WindyCitySteel]

He does 1 SB from his coaching tree, fwiw

Arians? His first NFL coaching job was under Marty Schottenheimer in KC, 1989.

[Prowler]

McVay is a far better coach than Tomlin because he's far smarter and his teams are disciplined. He'll discipline the thug Donald. If it were Tomlin he'd shower Donald with praise and admiration like he did with Antonio Brown.

McVay's teams perform well in the playoffs. Tomlin's teams are never prepared and don't show up for playoff games. Coaches included.

A Shade's locker room is cancerous. The players tune him out because he's to busy pampering the rich oppressed crowd. So when it comes time to play physical there is nothing in it for the oppressed crowd who only want to be pampered instead of actually earning their lofty salaries.

He's a horrible coach and his coaching staff can't even game plan for Tim Tebow as one of the many examples.

I'd fire Tomin and hire Kellen Moore. He's the smartest offensive mind in the game.

[Captain Lemming]

I wonder where he puts Hoodie on the scale, a HC who he admits outcoached him in his 1st SB?

Likely higher that Tomlin, as do I.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

show me one link where someone said Tomlin was a better HC than McVay...

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/nfl-head-coach-rankings-2022/

[feltdizz]

McVay is an awesome coach. That is what happens when you learn from a great mentor:

https://steelersdepot.com/2022/02/ra...age%20of%2033.

lmao.. oops. I’m sure McVay was lying just to be nice.

Reminds me of a Pats fan who called into sports radio to claim Billicheat was done because Brady won a SB in Tampa.

“games over man” - Bill Paxson

[Northern_Blitz]

I think last 5 years or so, I think McVay has been trending up while Tomlin has been about the same or maybe down vs. expectations.

[whisper]

McVay is a far better coach than Tomlin because he's far smarter and his teams are disciplined. He'll discipline the thug Donald. If it were Tomlin he'd shower Donald with praise and admiration like he did with Antonio Brown.

McVay's teams perform well in the playoffs. Tomlin's teams are never prepared and don't show up for playoff games. Coaches included.

A Shade's locker room is cancerous. The players tune him out because he's to busy pampering the rich oppressed crowd. So when it comes time to play physical there is nothing in it for the oppressed crowd who only want to be pampered instead of actually earning their lofty salaries.

He's a horrible coach and his coaching staff can't even game plan for Tim Tebow as one of the many examples.

I'd fire Tomin and hire Kellen Moore. He's the smartest offensive mind in the game.

That's a LOT of truth spoken right there.

[Northern_Blitz]

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/n...rankings-2022/

Given the post he replied to, I think he meant one link on this board where one of the posters here said Tomlin was better.

But maybe I misinterpreted what HI said.

FWIW...if you dig back far enough, you'll find posts where I said I wanted to see what McVay did with a non-rookie QB before anointing him as a great coach.

I think he put that to bed last season. Although they also really sold out to build that roster for a very short window with a good chance of success.

We'll see...but my current guess would be that McVay maybe "burns brighter" in a short period, but doesn't have the consistent success that Tomlin has had. And depending on the priorities of your organization that could make one better or worse than the other. Don't think many fans of other teams would be upset with either at this point though.

[whisper]

I think last 5 years or so, I think McVay has been trending up while Tomlin has been about the same or maybe down vs. expectations.

Not winning even one single playoff game has to have Shades arrow pointing down. This year will mark 6 in a row without a postseason win. Let's face it: He get's exposed in the playoffs. His lack of X's & O preparation just kills his teams. And they never appear ready. He's a D coach? His teams have gave up 40+ points in 3 straight postseason games. That's really telling.