List Your Top 10 Laziest Steelers of the Last 20 Years

[Prowler]

Bell didn't quit he held out and are you serious about the fitness, Bell was in great shape he was an absolute workout warrior.

He quit the team by holding out from the Steelers because he was a greedy player who wanted to rap, smoke drugs and bang women instead of playing football. He put himself before the team and solidified his position as a selfish, lazy player. There were numerous reports over the years about his penchant for putting on weight in the offseason instead of working out.

[Prowler]

My apologies for not being more clear. I didn't mean to imply that your choice of the word "colorful" had any connection to race or skin color. I was using your words (along with "brawl") to demonstrate that you are intentionally making what you consider to be inflammatory comments on the board. I was merely trying to figure out why you started such a ridiculous thread. The racial angle popped out at me because everyone on your list is Black and I was simply pointing out the biggest firestorm I could see in response. Again, what was the "brawl" you were expecting and why? What was the original thought that prompted you to start this thread? Those are the two central questions I was attempting to ask.

What I found shameful was lighting the board up intentionally and looking for fights. Then you come back at everyone with this victim mentality and are forced to defend yourself against the "woke mob" you are surrounded by. Why do you act surprised or become defensive when your behavior is intentional and the reaction is expected?

No need to apologize FlaSteel, you're truly one of the good guys.

Answer to question #1, I was being facetious with the word brawl. It wasn't meant literally, although no matter what I do in life there is always someone who hates me. It's always been that way. When I'm not online I tend to be quiet as a mouse being around people. This has caused these people to think I'm stuck up. Truth of the matter is I'd rather be by myself most of the time, and my mind is way too creative for my own good at times. I always have way too many thoughts in my head thinking of topics for YouTube videos, writing books, content creation, researching things and starting new projects etc. In this rare moment of levity, I feel like I'm losing control of myself and my life far too often. Not good.

#2, My original thought that prompted me to create this thread believe it or not was the title of the thread. No reason in particular for it. Although, I do tend to like controversial things to challenge my mind so maybe this played a part. I'm not really sure.

#3, I wouldn't say that my behaviour is intentional. I'm not in the least bit surprised that people act negatively towards my thoughts. I'm unique, I'm like an old soul trapped in a time and in a universe that I don't identify with anymore. This is probably the reason I resist the values of today and cherish the protection of old values, if this makes any sense to you.

[Flasteel]

No need to apologize FlaSteel, you're truly one of the good guys.

Answer to question #1, I was being facetious with the word brawl. It wasn't meant literally, although no matter what I do in life there is always someone who hates me. It's always been that way. When I'm not online I tend to be quiet as a mouse being around people. This has caused these people to think I'm stuck up. Truth of the matter is I'd rather be by myself most of the time, and my mind is way too creative for my own good at times. I always have way too many thoughts in my head thinking of topics for YouTube videos, writing books, content creation, researching things and starting new projects etc. In this rare moment of levity, I feel like I'm losing control of myself and my life far too often. Not good.

#2, My original thought that prompted me to create this thread believe it or not was the title of the thread. No reason in particular for it. Although, I do tend to like controversial things to challenge my mind so maybe this played a part. I'm not really sure.

#3, I wouldn't say that my behaviour is intentional. I'm not in the least bit surprised that people act negatively towards my thoughts. I'm unique, I'm like an old soul trapped in a time and in a universe that I don't identify with anymore. This is probably the reason I resist the values of today and cherish the protection of old values, if this makes any sense to you.

I can appreciate your explanation for the viewpoints you've expressed here and elsewhere. However, I would suggest you unpack that last point you made about the reaction of others to your comments. You seem to be cognizant that you say things that warrant a negative response from others. Yet, when that negative response inevitably occurs, you up the ante and start accusing everyone of being woke and tossing out pejoratives like beads in a parade.

I see nothing wrong with embracing traditional conservative social values, as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others or is any way exclusionary. But in my opinion, you cannot use an affinity for "old" values as cover for the vitriolic rhetoric that regularly flows from your keyboard. You cannot use a drummed-up fear of losing your cultural identity to justify demonizing or lashing out at others. You seem to be an intelligent guy and capable of introspection Prowler. So before you defend your actions by saying you're just giving it as good as you're getting it, please don't lose sight of the fact you are largely perpetrating it.

Let's all be better.

[Prowler]

I can appreciate your explanation for the viewpoints you've expressed here and elsewhere. However, I would suggest you unpack that last point you made about the reaction of others to your comments. You seem to be cognizant that you say things that warrant a negative response from others. Yet, when that negative response inevitably occurs, you up the ante and start accusing everyone of being woke and tossing out pejoratives like beads in a parade.

I see nothing wrong with embracing traditional conservative social values, as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others or is any way exclusionary. But in my opinion, you cannot use an affinity for "old" values as cover for the vitriolic rhetoric that regularly flows from your keyboard. You cannot use a drummed-up fear of losing your cultural identity to justify demonizing or lashing out at others. You seem to be an intelligent guy and capable of introspection Prowler. So before you defend your actions by saying you're just giving it as good as you're getting it, please don't lose sight of the fact you are largely perpetrating it.

Let's all be better.

I'm not going to take the blame for perpetrating it when I wasn't the one who started it. There is now way, I'll let anyone walk all over me. Always stand up for yourself against the cancel culture woke mob. If they don't like my opinions that is their problem and not mine. I'm not a person who will be intimidated into changing my mind and giving into the peer pressure. I'll never do it.

Let me refresh your memory about my first post in the Haskins thread when I stated, "Any man who drives around with a passed out drunk woman which isn't his wife, runs out of gas on a busy highway, and decides to walk across the busy highway in the dark to find gas isn't very smart! To make matters worse, he calls his wife from his cellphone with the inebriated woman in the passenger seat instead of phoning AAA to save him from his own stupid decisions. Good lord, I'm glad he's not our QB. No offense but our organization can do far better in the future. Of course this is assuming that all of the information is accurate".

I was attacked over and over again by several members of the woke mob even though, I never said anything bad about them until they attacked me with insults. If you don't believe me go back through the thread.

As it turns out I was right about Haskins, He didn't give a sh** about anyone but himself. Got in a bar fight, high on drugs, inebriated with 3 times the legal limit of alcohol and drove on a busy highway and crossed the road in the dark. The prick could have killed someone, yet these stooges keep pretending to show empathy for a guy who didn't care about the possibility of killing someone due to him driving high and drunk. He didn't deserve empathy and I don't deserve to be singled out for telling the truth about his demise. End of rant!

Nevertheless, thank you for the advice. I do appreciate you for showing respect.

[Moonie]

Way past 20 years, and I loved the guy, but Franco Harris would have to be on this list somewhere. Just the running out of bounds and stutter stepping when he could hit the hole. Anyone remember how frustratingly "lazy" that guy was?

Le'Veon Bell for sure.

Lamarr Woodley

Ernie Holmes - again, past the 20 years, but I'm old so . . . .

Plaxico Burress

Diontae Johnson and Chase Claypool will end up a sad tandem on the list some day

Eric Green

Mike Wallace - good grief with that clown

Artie Burns - wasn't that just pure laziness?

Martaviousness Bryant - GTFOH with that BS

[Captain Lemming]

I can appreciate your explanation for the viewpoints you've expressed here and elsewhere. However, I would suggest you unpack that last point you made about the reaction of others to your comments. You seem to be cognizant that you say things that warrant a negative response from others. Yet, when that negative response inevitably occurs, you up the ante and start accusing everyone of being woke and tossing out pejoratives like beads in a parade.

I see nothing wrong with embracing traditional conservative social values, as long as it doesn't infringe upon the rights of others or is any way exclusionary. But in my opinion, you cannot use an affinity for "old" values as cover for the vitriolic rhetoric that regularly flows from your keyboard. You cannot use a drummed-up fear of losing your cultural identity to justify demonizing or lashing out at others. You seem to be an intelligent guy and capable of introspection Prowler. So before you defend your actions by saying you're just giving it as good as you're getting it, please don't lose sight of the fact you are largely perpetrating it.

Let's all be better.

FlaSteel, you're truly one of the good guys.

Most accurate thing Prowler has ever posted here.

[Captain Lemming]

I'm not going to take the blame for perpetrating it when I wasn't the one who started it. There is now way, I'll let anyone walk all over me. Always stand up for yourself against the cancel culture woke mob. If they don't like my opinions that is their problem and not mine. I'm not a person who will be intimidated into changing my mind and giving into the peer pressure. I'll never do it.

Let me refresh your memory about my first post in the Haskins thread when I stated, "Any man who drives around with a passed out drunk woman which isn't his wife, runs out of gas on a busy highway, and decides to walk across the busy highway in the dark to find gas isn't very smart! To make matters worse, he calls his wife from his cellphone with the inebriated woman in the passenger seat instead of phoning AAA to save him from his own stupid decisions. Good lord, I'm glad he's not our QB. No offense but our organization can do far better in the future. Of course this is assuming that all of the information is accurate".

I was attacked over and over again by several members of the woke mob even though, I never said anything bad about them until they attacked me with insults. If you don't believe me go back through the thread.

As it turns out I was right about Haskins, He didn't give a sh** about anyone but himself. Got in a bar fight, high on drugs, inebriated with 3 times the legal limit of alcohol and drove on a busy highway and crossed the road in the dark. The prick could have killed someone, yet these stooges keep pretending to show empathy for a guy who didn't care about the possibility of killing someone due to him driving high and drunk. He didn't deserve empathy and I don't deserve to be singled out for telling the truth about his demise. End of rant!

Nevertheless, thank you for the advice. I do appreciate you for showing respect.

If Ben died for foolishly ignoring sound counsel and died in his motorcycle crash would you be gleeful about it?

[Prowler]

If Ben died for foolishly ignoring sound counsel and died in his motorcycle crash would you be gleeful about it?

I remember being very upset by his actions at the time. I'm not proud of it but at the time, I made up the nickname of "Windshield Brain" for him. Thankfully he's matured since that time and is now respected by all people in the NFL. I give him full credit for being a better person, a better man and a better husband and father. Well done, Big Ben.

[Monalo]

You’ve got to be kidding about Minkah being lazy. He plays deep FS, SS, underneath zone and in the box. Led the team in tackles by a wide margin and covers more ground than anybody on D by far.

I’m a Ben fan. But he sat out A LOT of the sessions in training camp for many years. A couple times, as the entire team is busting their a$$ in the hot Latrobe sun, I saw Ben ride down to the practice field on a golf cart near the END of practice. Then ride his golf cart back up the hill. The other older vets practice all day and then walk the hill, while Ben did nothing at all and rides a golf cart. That’s lazy.

[Prowler]

You’ve got to be kidding about Minkah being lazy. He plays deep FS, SS, underneath zone and in the box. Led the team in tackles by a wide margin and covers more ground than anybody on D by far.

I’m a Ben fan. But he sat out A LOT of the sessions in training camp for many years. A couple times, as the entire team is busting their a$$ in the hot Latrobe sun, I saw Ben ride down to the practice field on a golf cart near the END of practice. Then ride his golf cart back up the hill. The other older vets practice all day and then walk the hill, while Ben did nothing at all and rides a golf cart. That’s lazy.

You're certainly entitled to your views on both Minkah and Roethlisberger. Minkah is exceptional when he plays away from the line of scrimmage in coverage, I give you that. Problem is he sulks and cries and plays with little effort when he is close to the line of scrimmage. His PPF grade from the 2021 seasons shows this reality.

As for Ben he took tons of abuse on his body over the years. He probably played through more injuries than any QB in history. He was one tough SOB and for this reason I don't think he was as lazy as some fans hink. Although, I acknowledge your valid points about him, if it is true and I have no reason to doubt you.

Thank you for sharing you thoughts!

[Captain Lemming]

I remember being very upset by his actions at the time. I'm not proud of it but at the time, I made up the nickname of "Windshield Brain" for him. Thankfully he's matured since that time and is now respected by all people in the NFL. I give him full credit for being a better person, a better man and a better husband and father. Well done, Big Ben.

That was my exact emotional arch.
I was mad at him, but soo happy he got to grow from his youthful foolishness to a mature man.

What a tragic shame if he had been killed and denied the chance to turn it around.

Would you not agree?

[Prowler]

That was my exact emotional arch.
I was mad at him, but soo happy he got to grow from his youthful foolishness to a mature man.

What a tragic shame if he had been killed and denied the chance to turn it around.

Would you not agree?

Yes, I would agree but somehow I think my answer to your question will lead back to a point about Haskins am I right?

[Monalo]

You're certainly entitled to your views on both Minkah and Roethlisberger. Minkah is exceptional when he plays away from the line of scrimmage in coverage, I give you that. Problem is he sulks and cries and plays with little effort when he is close to the line of scrimmage. His PPF grade from the 2021 seasons shows this reality.

As for Ben he took tons of abuse on his body over the years. He probably played through more injuries than any QB in history. He was one tough SOB and for this reason I don't think he was as lazy as some fans hink. Although, I acknowledge your valid points about him, if it is true and I have no reason to doubt you.

Thank you for sharing you thoughts!

Minkah’s early season bad PFF grades can also partly be attributed to newly added responsibilities and trying to do too much.
He had the most tackles ever by a Steeler DB and 9th all-time most in Steeler history. You don’t get that many tackles crying, sulking and giving little effort around the LOS.

With Miami yes. But I haven’t seen anything about Minkah crying or sulking with the Steelers. This statement seems to be the opposite IMO.
“When you move around and you’re a moving piece on the chessboard, it’s hard to defend and you can’t just say, ‘All right, the quarterback is going to look at me and say he’s going to be in this spot every snap,’ like I was last year. It’s going to be harder and it’s going to be more difficult to take me out of the game.”

Ben is a tough SOB. But taking off a lot of sessions and riding around in a cart, while he could have been at least trying to help the younger QBs was not a good look IMO.
And this I saw with my own eyes.

[Northern_Blitz]

That was my exact emotional arch.
I was mad at him, but soo happy he got to grow from his youthful foolishness to a mature man.

What a tragic shame if he had been killed and denied the chance to turn it around.

Would you not agree?

This...the space between Ben and Haskins isn't that big.

[Mr.wizard]

He quit the team by holding out from the Steelers because he was a greedy player who wanted to rap, smoke drugs and bang women instead of playing football. He put himself before the team and solidified his position as a selfish, lazy player. There were numerous reports over the years about his penchant for putting on weight in the offseason instead of working out.

I cant find these numerous reports but even if, its the offseason, dude showed up to work shredded. As far as being greedy, thats just your opinion, its nothing more than a contract dispute. If you dont like him thats fine, i just think calling him lazy is ridiculous. It also seems ridiculous to say he did other things in the offseason other than workout, call him lazy for it and then leave Ben off your list.