Paul Zeise: Steelers' standard under Mike Tomlin has been lowered

[feltdizz]

Your funny.

McCarthy ( like Tomlin ) used up Rodgers best years. Then when Lefluer comes in ( first time coach ) he’s immediately suppose to insert Rodgers into the super bowl??

Your arguments are getting more ridiculous.

But I will admit that from what I saw in that packer game , Rodgers doesn’t have that fire anymore. He wants another ring but that fire in the gut is just isn’t there from what I saw.

And your attempted “ mind games” your trying to play in hopes of me changing my sig are kinda sad.

Captain , you think your smarter than everyone else . And it is funny to me but it seems to be annoying to others. Your not as clever with your words as you think.
Now can you go back and start talking about Tomlin and his accomplishments 12 years ago like you normally do? Those are great bedtime stories that seem to put us realist to sleep. Lol

wait.. if you don’t expect a SB immediately what is the point of hiring a new HC?

How many years does he get?

Is it Tomlin’s players or is it the new coaches players?

Just wondering what the point of hiring a new HC if you don’t expect immediate success.

[Steel Maniac]

wait.. if you don’t expect a SB immediately what is the point of hiring a new HC?

How many years does he get?

Is it Tomlin’s players or is it the new coaches players?

Just wondering what the point of hiring a new HC if you don’t expect immediate success.

Define immediate in your terms?

Like Matt Lefluer of Green Bay?

[hawaiiansteel]

You putting our ownership and management in the same category as the dolphins has actually made me mad. What an insult!!

Rooney Jr isn't as committed to winning championships like his Dad. He's happy with Tomlin and 8-10 win seasons. That's enough for him as long as gear is being bought and tickets are being sold.

yes, because you hold our ownership in such high esteem.

[Northern_Blitz]

wait.. if you don’t expect a SB immediately what is the point of hiring a new HC?

How many years does he get?

Is it Tomlin’s players or is it the new coaches players?

Just wondering what the point of hiring a new HC if you don’t expect immediate success.

Maybe it's because if we won a SB immediately, it would be because of Tomlin's players?

It's hard to construct the right situation so that the result is logically consistent here.

[Northern_Blitz]

Define immediate in your terms?

Like Matt Lefluer of Green Bay?

Isn't LaFleur a terrible coach because SBs are the only thing that matters and he's failed every year despite having the best QB in the league?

If Tomlin and LaFleur swapped rosters for the last 3 seasons, do you think that

(i) LaFleur does as well / better with the Steelers as Tomlin has? or
(ii) Tomlin does as well / better with the Packers as LaFleur has?

I think that the Steelers have exceeded expectations in 2 of the last 3 years given the rosters that played the games.

I don't follow the Packers as closely, so I don't know how they've done vs. expectations. It's probably hard to beat expectations there given how high they are with AR though.

[Captain Lemming]

Also , how dare you compare our hiring prowess to the dolphins.

He can't even see the irony. I'm working now, I will do an epic takedown of this foolishness later.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Cap, let me say it for you real slow so you can get it…

No… matter.. how.. you… spin.. it, ….. we..will… never.. win … a.. super.. bowl… again.. as.. long.. as.. Tomlin.. is… the… head.. coach.

Statements like that are plain silly. On Offense, they had exactly 3 starters from Cowher's team to the last SB appearance (Ben, Hines, Heath). But, let's not let facts get in the way.

[Steel Maniac]

Statements like that are plain silly. On Offense, they had exactly 3 starters from Cowher's team to the last SB appearance (Ben, Hines, Heath). But, let's not let facts get in the way.

Let’s go with what you said ( for discussion sake)

Explain the last 12 years of ineptness?

[hawaiiansteel]

Define immediate in your terms?

Like Matt Lefluer of Green Bay?

you're the one who is suggesting that getting a new head coach will lead to immediate success, so you tell us.

LaFleur has had 3 years now with one of the best QBs in the NFL and yet no Super Bowls have been won.

how many years does a new head coach get before he is expected to win a chip Mr. Time Based Predictor?

[Steel Maniac]

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we all know you're a spineless two-faced coward who doesn't have the fortitude to face me.

no sense in keeping on reminding us.

[feltdizz]

Define immediate in your terms?

Like Matt Lefluer of Green Bay?

immediately.. like within the first 3 years.

I mean, according to you anything less than a SB is failure for a HC with a HOF QB.

Lefluer went from a championship game loss to losing at home as a #1 seed to Jimmy G and an offense that produced no TD’s.

That is trending in the wrong direction.

[BURGH86STEEL]

Let’s go with what you said ( for discussion sake)

Explain the last 12 years of ineptness?

The Steelers were not an inept organization the last 12 years. No one in their right mind would call the Steelers an inept organization.

[Steel Maniac]

The Steelers were not an inept organization the last 12 years. No one in their right mind would call the Steelers an inept organization.

Too strong ; you know what I mean. See my sig.

[hawaiiansteel]

Too strong ; you know what I mean. See my sig.

oh yeah, that's right. you made up that we were favored to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl half of these last 12 years.

and somehow that makes "12 years of ineptness" because we didn't win a chip during that time period you lied about.