Other GREAT coaches mugging the camera

[NJ-STEELER]

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[Captain Lemming]

what GREAT coaches would be caught mugging the camera like that, blowing a kiss to the camera after such a contentious win?

Hoodie (6 SBs). No way.
Jimmy Johnson. No.
Bill Walsh. No.
Chuck Noll. Not on your life.
Big Tuna. No way.
Tom Landry. Not.
Marv Levy. No.
Bill Cowher. Not.
Andy Reid. Nope.
Joe Gibbs? Not.
Vince Lombardi. No.
Don Shula. Nope.

Let me get this straight. Being like the coaches above defines greatness?

You are correct he is indeed different from the entire list of "great" coaches you provided.

He is "different" in ways that are much more foundational than 5 seconds blowing a kiss to a camera after 14 winning seasons.

I thought a coach is defined by wins and loses PERIOD.

If being "like" the coaches above defines "greatness" in your eyes, I guess Tomlin has no chance of making you happy.

[T.Ferguson]

I'm always dubious of ranking teams or individuals using a formula but that's still kind of crazy that Tomlin is ranked dead last in two different rankings and 21st in the third ranking. Pete Carroll is 30th and I can say he's done a terrible job coaching this season, he should probably retire at this point. Whoever the HC of the Giants is ranked 31st lol.

[Chucktownsteeler]

It's hard if not impossible (probably not fair either) to compare players and coaches to players and coaches of different ERAs.

[whisper]

Let me get this straight. Being like the coaches above defines greatness?

You are correct he is indeed different from the entire list of "great" coaches you provided.

He is "different" in ways that are much more foundational than 5 seconds blowing a kiss to a camera after 14 winning seasons.

I thought a coach is defined by wins and loses PERIOD.

If being "like" the coaches above defines "greatness" in your eyes, I guess Tomlin has no chance of making you happy.

Has he had 14 winning seasons or 14 non-losing seasons? Not the same thing. And, as far as making me happy, how about some post-season wins? When is the last time he has had a few of those? 20 teams have had a playoff win since Tomlin...20? Could that be correct? How can a "great" coach have a playoff win dearth for that long?

[Moonie]

Which of these mugging for the camera will Tomlin do next?

This is a very odd post. Many of us are starting to wonder if maybe YOU have actually mugged for the camera. Are you denying it? Denying that you have, in fact, been guilty of what you allege that Tomlin did?

[whisper]

This is a very odd post. Many of us are starting to wonder if maybe YOU have actually mugged for the camera. Are you denying it? Denying that you have, in fact, been guilty of what you allege that Tomlin did?

I do maintain: The last time I was head coach of an NFL team, I did not mug the camera during or immediately after a game. There, I am on record.

[Buzz]

I do maintain: The last time I was head coach of an NFL team, I did not mug the camera during or immediately after a game. There, I am on record.

Glad you cleared that up for us!

[hawaiiansteel]

20 teams have had a playoff win since Tomlin

interesting.

a certain other troll on this message board has that in his sig.

[feltdizz]

interesting.

a certain other troll on this message board has that in his sig.

and its not a significant stat.

[Northern_Blitz]

I'm always dubious of ranking teams or individuals using a formula but that's still kind of crazy that Tomlin is ranked dead last in two different rankings and 21st in the third ranking. Pete Carroll is 30th and I can say he's done a terrible job coaching this season, he should probably retire at this point. Whoever the HC of the Giants is ranked 31st lol.

I think it's worth noting that Carroll was the poster boy for an example of making your team better by replacing the coach not long ago.

And many on the board said: "wait until they are paying market rate for a QB and we'll see how they perform".

I think the results have been predictable.

It looks like it wasn't the coaching as much as it was having players on undermarked contracts (especially the QB).

It's very hard to be consistently competitive in the NFL...even when you have a HOF QB.

That's why it's super rare for QBs to have more SB wins or appearances than Ben has.

And why "we should have done so much better when we had Ben" arguments kind of fall flat.

Maybe if Ben consistently played on a contract that was ("market value" - "value of elite CB") we would have been able to have more success. But it's unreasonable to expect anyone to play that far below their market value. Brady is a special case on many levels.

[Northern_Blitz]

It's hard if not impossible (probably not fair either) to compare players and coaches to players and coaches of different ERAs.

I'd go with impossible when the eras include massive changes to the league like implementation of (i) Unrestricted Free Agency and (ii) a Salary Cap.

[WindyCitySteel]

Other players know.

https://twitter.com/ShannonSharpe/status/1475249678388109318?s=20

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Don’t care what anyone says, for every Steelers WR to get unsportsmanlike , taunting penalties or exhibit behavior seen in the last decade. It’s coached in Pittsburgh and Coach Tomlin condones it. Tell me I’m lying

[Captain Lemming]

Other players know.

https://twitter.com/ShannonSharpe/status/1475249678388109318?s=20

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ONE players opinion.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Let me get this straight. Being like the coaches above defines greatness?

You are correct he is indeed different from the entire list of "great" coaches you provided.

He is "different" in ways that are much more foundational than 5 seconds blowing a kiss to a camera after 14 winning seasons.

I thought a coach is defined by wins and loses PERIOD.

If being "like" the coaches above defines "greatness" in your eyes, I guess Tomlin has no chance of making you happy.

i know this is old, but i've been away for a week and this happened to be on my screen still... that last line is a mic drop - thread should've ended there.