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  • Buzz
    Legend
    • Dec 2017
    • 8379

    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    Just when you thought a 500 season was impossible. I was thinking 8-9 or 9-8

    Watch us go 8-1-8 and Tomlins streak continues by the smallest margin.
    But he's still ahead of Cowher, so all has gotta be well, right?

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    • NJ-STEELER
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 12563

      Originally posted by Buzz
      Did we see any kind of creativity/innovation/adjustments on the part of the coaching staff to help this team win?

      To me, looked more like, "we do what we do" ... this time, we didn't get away with it
      yep, the standard is the standard.

      the stuff you mentioned would require coaching. adjustment to the players playing in front of the starters. different game planning perhaps

      but, did you expect anything different? I certainly didn't

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      • Eich
        Legend
        • Jul 2010
        • 7044

        Everything else being equal, we win that game with a decent QB. There were 2 easy throws Mason missed, at least one of which was 7 points. He’s just not an NFL-caliber QB

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        • LPMAN
          Pro Bowler
          • Sep 2021
          • 2032

          Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
          so... we ARE going to act like it doesn't matter.... got it.

          We're going to act like THEY didn't lose their starting RB, have a hurt QB and just assume injuries only impact the Steelers - because that fits the agenda.

          Let's also pretend that Mason was on point all day... and that Boswell was guaranteed to match his career long in the sleet.

          None of this removes the fact that Mason was REALLY bad. If you saw anything otherwise in Mason today, I'll never trust your perspective on a player again.
          Mason was bad, Our OC is retarded, Devin Bush is a bust....and Tomlin failed to adjust gameplan until too late. What's Tomlins record again against subpar.250 teams? I think he has the record for worst

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          • BURGH86STEEL
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 6921

            Originally posted by Buzz
            Did we see any kind of creativity/innovation/adjustments on the part of the coaching staff to help this team win?

            To me, looked more like, "we do what we do" ... this time, we didn't get away with it
            The coaches put the team in position to win. There were pleanty of opportunities. Innovation wasn't the issue. Execution and mistakes were the issues.

            It certainly didn't help that the Steelers loss 2 starting guards to injury. Losing Watt and Haden didn't appear to have a big impact in this game.

            Gotta give the Lions credit because they fought just as hard as the Steelers to win.

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            • NJ-STEELER
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 12563

              Originally posted by Buzz
              But he's still ahead of Cowher, so all has gotta be well, right?
              FaShTeSt CoOaCH iN HiStoReee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27532

                Originally posted by Eich
                Why did the super bowl champs lose to the WFT? Every team in the league is a threat. And we had no Ben, no Juju, no Claypool and today lost Watt & Haden.
                stop using facts..


                let them celebrate.. lol
                Steelers 27
                Rats 16

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                • Buzz
                  Legend
                  • Dec 2017
                  • 8379

                  Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                  yep, the standard is the standard.

                  the stuff you mentioned would require coaching. adjustment to the players playing in front of the starters. different game planning perhaps

                  but, did you expect anything different? I certainly didn't
                  Seems like this is the kind of game a "great" coach would be able to make a difference in, but I couldn't see that he did.

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                  • LPMAN
                    Pro Bowler
                    • Sep 2021
                    • 2032

                    Originally posted by Eich
                    Everything else being equal, we win that game with a decent QB. There were 2 easy throws Mason missed, at least one of which was 7 points. He’s just not an NFL-caliber QB
                    That's true. If Mason hits DJ late in 4th we win. Of course If DJ & Freiermuth don't fumble we also probably win.

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                    • LPMAN
                      Pro Bowler
                      • Sep 2021
                      • 2032

                      Originally posted by Buzz
                      Seems like this is the kind of game a "great" coach would be able to make a difference in, but I couldn't see that he did.
                      That's true. It's the subtle things that Tomlin doesn;'t do that would make a world of difference. Like he put in Spillane too late.

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                      • Captain Lemming
                        Legend
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 16041

                        Originally posted by SteelerOfDeVille
                        so... we ARE going to act like it doesn't matter.... got it.

                        We're going to act like THEY didn't lose their starting RB, have a hurt QB and just assume injuries only impact the Steelers - because that fits the agenda.

                        Let's also pretend that Mason was on point all day... and that Boswell was guaranteed to match his career long in the sleet.

                        None of this removes the fact that Mason was REALLY bad. If you saw anything otherwise in Mason today, I'll never trust your perspective on a player again.
                        It took THIS to stop trusting certain people's perspective on players.
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                        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                        TCFCLTC-
                        The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                        • Flasteel
                          Hall of Famer
                          • May 2008
                          • 4004

                          Originally posted by Buzz
                          Did we see any kind of creativity/innovation/adjustments on the part of the coaching staff to help this team win?

                          To me, looked more like, "we do what we do" ... this time, we didn't get away with it
                          To me, it was worse than that. Given the weather conditions and the fact we were playing our backup quarterback, we threw the ball 50 times. 50 times! That series where we had a 1st and goal at the 6 and threw incomplete on 3 straight plays was mind-boggling. Terrible game plan and in-game coaching on the offensive side of the ball.
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                          • SteelerOfDeVille
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 9069

                            Originally posted by feltdizz
                            stop using facts..


                            let them celebrate.. lol
                            there's no celebration, trust me. If anything, I celebrate that *MAYBE* the team determines they DO need a QB next year and doesn't give Mason a full season. I still would have like to seen that with a FG kick for the win.
                            2013 MNF Executive Champion!

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                            • NJ-STEELER
                              Legend
                              • May 2008
                              • 12563

                              Originally posted by Buzz
                              Seems like this is the kind of game a "great" coach would be able to make a difference in, but I couldn't see that he did.

                              a former blocking TE, Neanderthal type coach, in his rookie year and calling the plays for the 1st time out coached him.
                              on the road no less

                              what does that tell you

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                              • Buzz
                                Legend
                                • Dec 2017
                                • 8379

                                Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                                The coaches put the team in position to win. There were pleanty of opportunities. Innovation wasn't the issue. Execution and mistakes were the issues.

                                It certainly didn't help that the Steelers loss 2 starting guards to injury. Losing Watt and Haden didn't appear to have a big impact in this game.

                                Gotta give the Lions credit because they fought just as hard as the Steelers to win.
                                Lions lost significant players, too

                                I'm not downplaying the failure to execute and the mistakes, particularly the turnovers. That's obviously where the primary blame has to go.

                                Yet just as easily as saying the coaches put the team in position to win (didn't Detroit's coaches have their team in posiiton to win?), you could say the coaches didn't do enough to help us win a close game w/o our starting QB. What did they come up with to really boost our chances? I don't see it.

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