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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
    • 35314

    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    You sound like one of those old men, sitting in a rocking chair and talking about what you did back in 1939. Hahahahaha.

    It's about the recent NOW!

    I love when you talk thou...you constantly reach back a decade or more to claim glory. When we live in the NOW. Hahaha. Thanks for waiting. Your wait has been fulfilled.
    says the guy with Don Shula in his sig who retired 26 years ago.

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    • Captain Lemming
      Legend
      • Jun 2008
      • 15979

      Originally posted by whatever
      It was an incredible play.
      Santonio’s catch and the throw from Ben was pretty amazing also.
      If that play, created due to advanced preparation by Tomlin, doesn't happen it is a 2 score difference (10 or 14 points) in the game. The last drive would be meaningess.
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      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

      TCFCLTC-
      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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      • Chucktownsteeler
        Legend
        • May 2008
        • 6762

        I always like Don Shula, especially when he used to say "Bill Belicheat". He had a real dislike for him.

        I followed the Dolphins in the very early 70's and also a little of the Houston Oilers (in there good years). The Steelers are #1 in my book.

        I watched a great "30 for 30" last night on Pete Rozelle and Al Davis. Although Davis slammed the Steelers every chance he got, his work really helped the teams and players of today in many, many ways.
        Help me find my post proving I am a Yinzer!

        I will tip my hat to Tomlin if he has a winning record and the team makes the play-offs in the upcoming season.

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        • Captain Lemming
          Legend
          • Jun 2008
          • 15979

          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
          Again...

          You are talking about ONE game and something that was over a decade ago. You sound like one of those old men, sitting in a rocking chair and talking about what you did back in 1939. Hahahahaha.
          It's about the recent NOW! There are no more of Cowher's coaches and players to bail him out. NOW....these are coaches and players he chose and coached. NOW (being the last 11 years) is when we see what HE (he being Tomlin) can create. And he's created a bunch of winning seasons but he gets out coached in the playoffs consistently. Now by Kevin Stefanski of the Browns.

          I love when you talk thou...you constantly reach back a decade or more to claim glory. When we live in the NOW. Hahaha. Thanks for waiting. Your wait has been fulfilled.
          YOU bring up Cowher and Shula in every single post and say I live in the past?

          That is rich. You drop the ridiculous talk of coaches from the 70s-90s.

          We are talking about Tomlin who has coached from 2007-Present. What is his record, what did he accomplish.

          That is how you judge a coach.

          Now if you want to say he's lost an edge, what has he done lately...we can talk about that.

          But the reason why I focused on ONE GAME is that you try to dismiss his coaching. I gave you an example why he deserved props for THAT team.

          I also was challenged by Joel to give specific examples of players praising or crediting Tomlin. That was an example of Troy doing just that.

          But if you are tired of hearing about how THE GREATEST DEFENSIVE PLAY IN SB HISTORY was the direct result of coaching, YOU are the only reason it comes up because you refuse to credit him for the win.
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          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

          TCFCLTC-
          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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          • whatever
            Legend
            • Sep 2019
            • 5789

            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
            Do you realize how ridiculous you are being whatever?

            Nobody knows what a team is preparing before a game...what do you think, you are gonna see that stuff in the paper?

            Only way ANYBODY but the team finds out is if they are playing the Pats who steal that info.

            See dumb questions like this are why I don't take you seriously. You completely ignore the point and throw up bogus questions that you don't even realize make no sense.

            How do I know it happenned? The article cites Troy as confirming what Tomlin said.

            I drop links for a reason. I know you don't take the time to prove your statements as I do but can you at least tap link?

            It ain't that hard.
            Do you realize that YOU asked manic if he knew of any coach that prepared his team in advance and knew about it.
            Nobody is disputing if it happened. Fans here are hanging their hats on this one situation. Of course players are going to say the practiced this when asked. No different than if a trick play worked or an onside kick. I guarantee lots of stuff by all coaches get talked about and practiced every single game, but they don’t get talked about by the players unless asked.
            It’s not that hard to comprehend. You act like Tomlin is the only HC to practice something.
            Why didn’t Tomlin prepare his secondary not to give up the huge plays to Fitzgerald ?
            I bet if the players were asked if Tomlin mentioned Fitzgerald, they would probably say they had a plan to stop or slow him down. Why? Because he is a playmaker.
            So actually, you asked a dumb question and now are trying to accuse me of it.
            How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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            • whatever
              Legend
              • Sep 2019
              • 5789

              Originally posted by Captain Lemming
              If that play, created due to advanced preparation by Tomlin, doesn't happen it is a 2 score difference (10 or 14 points) in the game. The last drive would be meaningess.
              But but but, it’s all player execution. Never coaching. Unless it fits your aganda.
              How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                Originally posted by whatever
                Do you realize that YOU asked manic if he knew of any coach that prepared his team in advance and knew about it.
                Nobody is disputing if it happened. Fans here are hanging their hats on this one situation. Of course players are going to say the practiced this when asked. No different than if a trick play worked or an onside kick. I guarantee lots of stuff by all coaches get talked about and practiced every single game, but they don’t get talked about by the players unless asked.
                It’s not that hard to comprehend. You act like Tomlin is the only HC to practice something.
                Why didn’t Tomlin prepare his secondary not to give up the huge plays to Fitzgerald ?
                I bet if the players were asked if Tomlin mentioned Fitzgerald, they would probably say they had a plan to stop or slow him down. Why? Because he is a playmaker.
                So actually, you asked a dumb question and now are trying to accuse me of it.
                Why didn't Tomlin have them prepared for the 40 yard pass from Mayfield to Landry? We are talking about NOW...not a decade ago.

                *** Why didn't Tomlin have them prepared for Blake Bortles scoring 17 points in the 4th quarter ( and looking like Tom Brady) in the playoffs in 2018?

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                • NorthCoast
                  Legend
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 26224

                  Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                  Why didn't Tomlin have them prepared for the 40 yard pass from Mayfield to Landry? We are talking about NOW...not a decade ago.

                  *** Why didn't Tomlin have them prepared for Blake Bortles scoring 17 points in the 4th quarter ( and looking like Tom Brady) in the playoffs in 2018?
                  Already said I think Tomlin and Butler were outcoached in the Browns playoff.
                  Actually after the screwed up Tuesday game during the season they never really looked all that good.

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                  • feltdizz
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 27221

                    Originally posted by whatever
                    Do you realize that YOU asked manic if he knew of any coach that prepared his team in advance and knew about it.
                    Nobody is disputing if it happened. Fans here are hanging their hats on this one situation. Of course players are going to say the practiced this when asked. No different than if a trick play worked or an onside kick. I guarantee lots of stuff by all coaches get talked about and practiced every single game, but they don’t get talked about by the players unless asked.
                    It’s not that hard to comprehend. You act like Tomlin is the only HC to practice something.
                    Why didn’t Tomlin prepare his secondary not to give up the huge plays to Fitzgerald ?
                    I bet if the players were asked if Tomlin mentioned Fitzgerald, they would probably say they had a plan to stop or slow him down. Why? Because he is a playmaker.
                    So actually, you asked a dumb question and now are trying to accuse me of it.
                    why didn’t we stop Fitz? Same reason AZ didn’t stop Ben and Santonio.

                    You guys act like the other team isn’t paid to make plays against us. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t..

                    but you have to be a special type of miserable to imply our secondary was
                    lying or embellishing when they gave Tomlin credit. They specifically said they were shown the Tampa SB highlights and how they returned a record number of INT’s for TD’s.
                    Steelers 27
                    Rats 16

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27221

                      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                      Why didn't Tomlin have them prepared for the 40 yard pass from Mayfield to Landry? We are talking about NOW...not a decade ago.

                      *** Why didn't Tomlin have them prepared for Blake Bortles scoring 17 points in the 4th quarter ( and looking like Tom Brady) in the playoffs in 2018?
                      its probably because we weren’t better than the Browns or Jags in the last 2 playoff games.

                      its hilarious how some of you still can’t accept that the Jags were better than us in 2018. They beat us twice at home that year and forced Ben into 7 turnovers in 2 games.

                      That Blake Bortles team was an amazing defensive play from beating the Pats in the AFCCG.
                      Steelers 27
                      Rats 16

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                      • Joel Buchsbaum
                        Legend
                        • Jan 2021
                        • 7601

                        Originally posted by feltdizz
                        its probably because we weren’t better than the Browns or Jags in the last 2 playoff games.

                        its hilarious how some of you still can’t accept that the Jags were better than us in 2018. They beat us twice at home that year and forced Ben into 7 turnovers in 2 games.

                        That Blake Bortles team was an amazing defensive play from beating the Pats in the AFCCG.
                        In 2018-2019 the Jags were 5-11. I think you are talking about 2017 when The Steelers were 13-3, and Jags were 10-6. I know who was better.

                        Coaching cost us those games. You make Bortles pass to beat you, which he cant and didn't. Stop the run, duh coaches. We all know who''s getting the ball.

                        Bortles is just on the list of clowns, like Glennon who the Steelers lost to not so long ago.
                        Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                        Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                        *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35314

                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          We are talking about NOW...not a decade ago.
                          says the guy referencing Don Shula in his sig who retired 26 years ago.

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                          • NJ-STEELER
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 12563

                            Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                            If that play, created due to advanced preparation by Tomlin, doesn't happen it is a 2 score difference (10 or 14 points) in the game. The last drive would be meaningess.

                            it was troy who was talking about this in the america's game series on SB 43.
                            it was a great idea that led lead to a success.

                            but i have a question for you. as good as that was, what's your opinion of the play that was called?
                            its well known that harrsion went rogue and decided to cover the slot instead of blitz as had been instructed by the coaches

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                            • whatever
                              Legend
                              • Sep 2019
                              • 5789

                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              why didn’t we stop Fitz? Same reason AZ didn’t stop Ben and Santonio.

                              You guys act like the other team isn’t paid to make plays against us. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don’t..

                              but you have to be a special type of miserable to imply our secondary was
                              lying or embellishing when they gave Tomlin credit. They specifically said they were shown the Tampa SB highlights and how they returned a record number of INT’s for TD’s.
                              What part of nobody denied that the players said Tomlin talked about blocking after a turnover don’t you get?
                              You guys are acting like Tomlin is the only coach to coach up a team for a game.
                              Like I said, why didn’t he coach them up not to get burned by fitz?
                              How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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                              • whatever
                                Legend
                                • Sep 2019
                                • 5789

                                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                                it was troy who was talking about this in the america's game series on SB 43.
                                it was a great idea that led lead to a success.

                                but i have a question for you. as good as that was, what's your opinion of the play that was called?
                                its well known that harrsion went rogue and decided to cover the slot instead of blitz as had been instructed by the coaches
                                Great point.
                                So Harrison actually new more than Tomlin and went against his call.
                                So actually, tomlins blocking meant nothing if it wasn’t for Harrison overruling Tomlin.
                                Seems like Harrison scouted more than Mikey.
                                How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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