Tomlin

[Steel Maniac]

In 2018-2019 the Jags were 5-11. I think you are talking about 2017 when The Steelers were 13-3, and Jags were 10-6. I know who was better.

Coaching cost us those games. You make Bortles pass to beat you, which he cant and didn't. Stop the run, duh coaches. We all know who's getting the ball.

Bortles is just on the list of clowns, like Glennon who the Steelers lost to not so long ago.

In the forth quarter, after we had over came the early turnovers, Tomlin was thoroughly outcoached.

But okay, let's keep reaching back more than a decade for Tomlin validation. Dolphins fans in 1990 where

reaching back to 1972 to justify Shula too.

[hawaiiansteel]

But okay, let's keep reaching back more than a decade for Tomlin validation. Dolphins fans in 1990 where

reaching back to 1972 to justify Shula too.

you're so dumb, why do you keep using the absolute worst example you possibly could to try to prove your false narrative?

the Dolphins haven't won squat ever since Shula left, it's really hard to take you serious when you say such stupid things.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Staying for another 3 years, this will get the board all chipper lolol

I wonder what it will take or the Tomlin backers to change tune.

Not making the playoffs this year? That will be since 2016 and counting...

Having a losing season the year? A media talking point...

To his backers, please explain to me at what point you want to move and kudos to anyone who can answer and help define this question.

[Oviedo]

43 pages later and a hundred repeated, restated comments and Tomlin is still the Head Coach. The Steelers and Tomlin win!!!!!!

[Joel Buchsbaum]

43 pages later and a hundred repeated, restated comments and Tomlin is still the Head Coach. The Steelers and Tomlin win!!!!!!

Well I didn't view/read all 43 pages, but I did ask a question for the Tomlin backers to clarify at what point do they lose faith in him.

Not winning a playoffs game this year? That will be since 2016 and counting...

Having a losing season the year? A media talking point...

To his backers, please explain to me at what point you want to move and kudos to anyone who can answer and help define this question.

Oviedo, you are up.

[feltdizz]

In 2018-2019 the Jags were 5-11. I think you are talking about 2017 when The Steelers were 13-3, and Jags were 10-6. I know who was better.

Coaching cost us those games. You make Bortles pass to beat you, which he cant and didn't. Stop the run, duh coaches. We all know who''s getting the ball.

Bortles is just on the list of clowns, like Glennon who the Steelers lost to not so long ago.

The Steelers lost to the Jags on January 14, 2018.

Thanks for your petty attempt at correcting me.

[feltdizz]

Well I didn't view/read all 43 pages, but I did ask a question for the Tomlin backers to clarify at what point do they lose faith in him.

Not winning a playoffs game this year? That will be since 2016 and counting...

Having a losing season the year? A media talking point...

To his backers, please explain to me at what point you want to move and kudos to anyone who can answer and help define this question.

Oviedo, you are up.

no matter how much you guys cry Tomlin is the coach for 3 more years.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

The Steelers lost to the Jags on January 14, 2018.

Thanks for your petty attempt at correcting me.

I was also referring to the Steelers losing to the Jags in 2017 by a score of 30-9. If I wanted to correct you more often, I'd get little work done. Now, can you tell me at what point this loyalty to Tomlin wears thin?

Not winning a playoff game for 5+ seasons? That more than the average NFL player is in the league.

Having a losing record this year?

Third time asking and anyone the board who backs Tomlin. Can give an honest answer?

[NorthCoast]

I was also referring to the Steelers losing to the Jags in 2017 by a score of 30-9. If I wanted to correct you more often, I'd get little work done. Now, can you tell me at what point this loyalty to Tomlin wears thin?

Not winning a playoff game for 5+ seasons? That more than the average NFL player is in the league.

Having a losing record this year?

Third time asking and anyone the board who backs Tomlin. Can give an honest answer?

For me, if the Steelers continue their late season slides like the last couple it will signal time for a change. Right now, it is too hard to untangle the Fichtner/Roethlisberger effect. In the past, Tomlin's teams generally finished stronger than they started. That has slipped since 2018.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

For me, if the Steelers continue their late season slides like the last couple it will signal time for a change. Right now, it is too hard to untangle the Fichtner/Roethlisberger effect. In the past, Tomlin's teams generally finished stronger than they started. That has slipped since 2018.

Thanks for the reply. I'm still scratching my head on why Tomlin deserves a 3 extension. We have had two epic late season collapses, and Tomlin was the man out Fichtner in charge of the offense. No playoff wins since 2016. I think the last vintage Ben was seen in the Indy game and that guy won't be seen much again, if at all.

Colbert must have a very good draft. Players that can run block well are a need, and so are speedy skill players in the backfield. That and a lot of blind hope in Matt Canada.

[Mr.wizard]

Well I didn't view/read all 43 pages, but I did ask a question for the Tomlin backers to clarify at what point do they lose faith in him.

Not winning a playoffs game this year? That will be since 2016 and counting...

Having a losing season the year? A media talking point...

To his backers, please explain to me at what point you want to move and kudos to anyone who can answer and help define this question.

Oviedo, you are up.

When the Steelers decide to move on from Tomlin , it will be the right time. Right now the Steelers say he is the man for the job, so who am i supposed to listen too, you or the organization?

The problem with Tomlin detractors is they not only want to move on from Tomlin but they want to invalidate every accomplishment over the course of his career and that is where you will find most people coming to his defense.

[hawaiiansteel]

But okay, let's keep reaching back more than a decade for Tomlin validation. Dolphins fans in 1990 where

reaching back to 1972 to justify Shula too.

the only thing your stupid sig proves is that there's no guarantee of winning a Super Bowl if and when you change head coaches.

Shula retired in 1995, and the Dolphins haven't won squat ever since he left 26 years ago.

[feltdizz]

I was also referring to the Steelers losing to the Jags in 2017 by a score of 30-9. If I wanted to correct you more often, I'd get little work done. Now, can you tell me at what point this loyalty to Tomlin wears thin?

Not winning a playoff game for 5+ seasons? That more than the average NFL player is in the league.

Having a losing record this year?

Third time asking and anyone the board who backs Tomlin. Can give an honest answer?

it ends when they move on from him. Blind hate is much worse than blind loyalty.

A losing season? Wouldn’t that be his first? Doesn’t that answer the question why he has been extended?

You keep asking US why when its the ownership who likes Tomlin. Its obvious you aren’t familiar with the franchise because you would know the answer to your question.

You keep asking the same question while ignoring the answers because you are blinded by hate. You just don’t like the answers.. lol.

[feltdizz]

the only thing your stupid sig proves is that there's no guarantee of winning a Super Bowl if and when you change head coaches.

Shula retired in 1995, and the Dolphins haven't won squat ever since he left 26 years ago.

but Dolphin fans “where” reaching back

why the hell is SM so obsessed with Shula and the Phins. Shula is still considered the one of the best NFL coaches ever and he thinks this comparison makes Tomlin look bad? lmao.

[flippy]

I wonder what it will take or the Tomlin backers to change tune.

Not making the playoffs this year? That will be since 2016 and counting...

Having a losing season the year? A media talking point...

To his backers, please explain to me at what point you want to move and kudos to anyone who can answer and help define this question.

I could personally go either way on Tomlin.

We all know his strengths and limitations after all these years and overall he seems to be better than most coaches and able to get more out of players so I can see the Rooney’s being patient with him like they were with Cowher and maybe it pays off if he ends up with the right roster, players, coaches, and a little luck.

I do think it’s fair to give him a little more time after Ben and Colbert are finished.

Tomlin has been saddled with Ben for his entire career. There’s been good and bad, but for the last 10 years, some could argue we’ve been over investing in Ben relative to his playoff production and over investing in Ben has limited the quality of the rest of them team to a degree.

I have no idea how much sway Tomlin has vs Colbert, but I think he’s earned his right to build a roster without the influence of Colbert to give us a litmus test of has Colbert helped or hindered Tomlin in some ways? Give him a couple years post Colbert to see what Tomlin can build.

If you look at our drafts with Colbert/Cowher vs Colbert/Tomlin, there’s some big differences in approach. How much is Cowher vs Tomlin’s influence vs Colbert gaining more influence post Cowher with Colbert having more influence than Tomlin given his broader experience.

Given some of the Rooney comments I’ve seen, I don’t think this thinking is too far from the Rooney thinking. They want continuity post Ben and Colbert. I suspect they may believe Tomlin has earned some stripes to have more control over everything longer term to see how it turns out. I have no problem with this, but I expect Tomlin’s weaknesses will still drive me nuts. At least until we win another SuperBowl and Tomlin moves on in the future and we all over rate him finally.