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Cowher/Neil O
Is it Cowhers fault we lost his first SB? Yes or no.
Back in the day and all the years leading up to 2005, Cowher was getting a LOT of the blame for not having a ring. A LOT of people wanted him gone. It's much the same now with Tomlin. It's a, "What have you done for me today" game. I get it. We've been ABYSMAL in the playoffs since 2010. That's a LONG dryspell for the City of Champions.
I like Tomlin and glad he's staying around. But I also don't have an issue with people and the media getting tired of the playoff dryspell. Tomlin should feel some heat. It's time to win something a little more meaningful. If Ben is a turnover liability in the playoffs, then there should have been a better emphasis on a better run game so that he's not throwing it 65 times a game.
Back in the day and all the years leading up to 2005, Cowher was getting a LOT of the blame for not having a ring. A LOT of people wanted him gone. It's much the same now with Tomlin. It's a, "What have you done for me today" game. I get it. We've been ABYSMAL in the playoffs since 2010. That's a LONG dryspell for the City of Champions.
I like Tomlin and glad he's staying around. But I also don't have an issue with people and the media getting tired of the playoff dryspell. Tomlin should feel some heat. It's time to win something a little more meaningful. If Ben is a turnover liability in the playoffs, then there should have been a better emphasis on a better run game so that he's not throwing it 65 times a game.
Eich, specifically, who is responsible for bringing a better emphasis to the run game as you talk about?
Back in the day and all the years leading up to 2005, Cowher was getting a LOT of the blame for not having a ring. A LOT of people wanted him gone
yes, I remember those days on the Steelers message boards. the overwhelming consensus was that Cowher would never win the big one and needed to be fired.
I love the revisionist history that has occured since, if Rooney hadn't forced a franchise QB on Cowher he probable never would have won a ring.
It'll be great once Roethlisberger is gone after this season. We can then use the Cowher defense...."but he didn't have a franchise QB"..... Maybe all the nonsense comparing the two can stop.
It'll be great once Roethlisberger is gone after this season. We can then use the Cowher defense...."but he didn't have a franchise QB"..... Maybe all the nonsense comparing the two can stop.
ha.. we know that won’t work. It will be proof “he can’t win without Ben”
or if he does win it will be “why didn’t he do it with Ben” or “its because of whatever other coach is on the team at the time.
Eich, specifically, who is responsible for bringing a better emphasis to the run game as you talk about?
Complicated question, it is not just on one person. Cant put emphasis on a bad running game. Everyone has to execute and that is where we fell short last season. Tomlin cant just say " lets emphasis a good running game". O-line was bad, Ben didnt make the necessary adjustments, runningbacks didnt help.
Complicated question, it is not just on one person. Cant put emphasis on a bad running game. Everyone has to execute and that is where we fell short last season. Tomlin cant just say " lets emphasis a good running game". O-line was bad, Ben didnt make the necessary adjustments, runningbacks didnt help.
not sure why some people want to point the finger at one person.
The Steelers are successful because they operate as a collective all moving in the same direction.
If Rooney wants to improve the run game its going to happen in the draft or after the draft.
Rooney extended Tomlin so he is part of the plan.
Rooney and Colbert gave Ben another year so he is part of the plan.
Khan is still working his magic with the numbers.. he is part of the plan.
People who want to point the finger at one person aren't familiar with how this franchise operates.
Complicated question, it is not just on one person. Cant put emphasis on a bad running game. Everyone has to execute and that is where we fell short last season. Tomlin cant just say " lets emphasis a good running game". O-line was bad, Ben didnt make the necessary adjustments, runningbacks didnt help.
not the answer Steel Maniac was looking for.
it's all Tomlin's fault because he is solely responsible for scouting and drafting the RBs and OL, he blocks and runs the ball himself, he hands the ball off and Tomlin is the OL coach, RB coach and offensive coordinator.
Former Steelers strong safety Troy Polamalu thinks Mike Tomlin is a great coach.
Tomlin's prediction before Super Bowl XLIII is one reason why Polamalu holds his former coach in such high regard.
Before James Harrison's 100-yard interception return for a touchdown in Pittsburgh's 27-23 win over the Cardinals, Tomlin accurately predicted that the Steelers would need such a play in order to defeat the Cardinals, who at the time of the interception, were poised to take the lead near the end of the first half.
"We had a practice prior to the game, we picked off maybe five or six passes," Tomlin said back in 2009 during an interview with NFL Network. "I'm watching (the) practice tape, I can't sleep, and I decide to make a cutup of every interception that we had in that practice. I noticed that we weren't rallying and getting offensive. So when we met on Thursday, I ran that cutup...didn't say much, other than the fact that this performance is probably not gonna be enough.
"We're gonna have to get out in front of people, and we're gonna have to run one back, or maybe two back."
Then, two sweeten the pot, Tomlin offered some incentive to the Steelers defense, who in 2008 was one of the best units of all-time.
"I told them that the last time I coached in a Super Bowl (as the Buccaneers defensive backs coach in Super Bowl XXXVII), the defense I was apart of ran three of them back, and put 21 points on the board. And I thought that that was a great defense," Tomlin said with a laugh. "They didn't think it was as funny as I did, but for the rest of the week, when we picked the ball off, they got out in front of one another, and ran it back."
Tomlin's prediction reached fruition on Super Bowl Sunday. After Harrison's pick, Pittsburgh's entire defense seemingly ran down the field with him, providing key blocks that helped Harrison on his way to the end zone. The pick-six gave the Steelers a 17-7 halftime lead, and is regarded as arguably the greatest defensive play in Super Bowl history.
"That's what I'll always remember about that play, that convoy of bodies around James," Tomlin said. "The number of people out in front of him and the people willing to peel back and get people chasing him as he ran out of gas is as spectacular as the play itself."
Polamalu, who retired this past offseason, said that Tomlin's prediction and emphasis on rallying after an interception was just one reason why the Steelers won that game, and why Tomlin is one of the best in the business.
"That's pretty amazing, the way things worked out that way," Polamalu said, looking back. "Him showing us that film, him driving that point across, him getting out of bed. That's the sign of a great coach. I would stayed in bed and kept sleeping."
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