Skip Bayless thinks Ben can play for three more years if he rededicated himself

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  • hawaiiansteel
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 35315

    #31
    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
    same as your Bull$hit excuses when there is a question about a coaching decision.
    you're so predictable.

    whenever you lose an argument you start resorting to childish insults.

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    • BURGH86STEEL
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 6908

      #32
      At this point Ben is season to season. He could be game to game if his game drops of more.

      Ben might play better this season.

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      • hawaiiansteel
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        • May 2008
        • 35315

        #33
        Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
        At this point Ben is season to season. He could be game to game if his game drops of more.

        Ben might play better this season.
        he may very well play better.

        Ben will now be another year removed from elbow surgery.

        and hopefully Canada won't ask Ben to throw as many times as Fichtner did.

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        • hawaiiansteel
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 35315

          #34
          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
          ??

          i keep seeing this and wonder if people remember what occurred.

          connor was step for step with him going after the bad snap.

          if they both go for the ball, they likely might cancel each other out.

          who do you want jumping on that ball a near 40 yr old QB or a mid 20s 6'2 230LB running back?
          here's what we know:

          Ben didn't try for it and the Browns recovered the ball.

          maybe if Ben had you know actually tried the Steelers would have recovered the ball and not given the Browns the momentum on our opening drive.

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          • Northern_Blitz
            Legend
            • Dec 2008
            • 23985

            #35
            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
            he may very well play better.

            Ben will now be another year removed from elbow surgery.

            and hopefully Canada won't ask Ben to throw as many times as Fichtner did.
            It's not impossible.

            But my bet is that the 39 year old pro athlete that looked bad in the second half of the season where he was 38 gets worse and not better.

            I would think that if getting further away from the surgery was important here, we would have seen an improvement throughout last season instead of the wheels falling off.

            Hope that you're right and I'm wrong on this one.

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            • "BuzzNuter"
              Pro Bowler
              • Mar 2019
              • 1861

              #36
              Where do people get the idea that Ben doesn't workout? Who believes that bulls***. 18 years in the NFL and you don't workout, come on. Ben had elbow surgery and messed up his arm for the first time in his life. He needed to get adjusted and then when he did he was throwing to guys he never played with or played with them as backups. Ben is an extraordinary athlete. He was recruited by Duke in basketball. He was an all state SS in baseball. He shoots par on a US Open course. People he is not immobile. Give him a chance. Bayless is right, if he works hard he will be excellent but he will never weigh less than 245 lbs.

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              • Northern_Blitz
                Legend
                • Dec 2008
                • 23985

                #37
                Originally posted by "BuzzNuter"
                Where do people get the idea that Ben doesn't workout? Who believes that bulls***. 18 years in the NFL and you don't workout, come on. Ben had elbow surgery and messed up his arm for the first time in his life. He needed to get adjusted and then when he did he was throwing to guys he never played with or played with them as backups. Ben is an extraordinary athlete. He was recruited by Duke in basketball. He was an all state SS in baseball. He shoots par on a US Open course. People he is not immobile. Give him a chance. Bayless is right, if he works hard he will be excellent but he will never weigh less than 245 lbs.
                I agree that anyone who doesn't think Ben works out is being silly.

                But I think to be very successful at ~ 40, you probably need to have a Gary Roberts like commitment to being in the best shape possible.

                That's never been the reputation that Ben has...rightly or wrongly.
                Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 04-18-2021, 07:20 PM.

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                • NJ-STEELER
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 12563

                  #38
                  Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                  you're so predictable.

                  whenever you lose an argument you start resorting to childish insults.
                  childish insults? where?

                  i answered the same way you and others defend tomlin

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                  • NJ-STEELER
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 12563

                    #39
                    Originally posted by "BuzzNuter"
                    Where do people get the idea that Ben doesn't workout? Who believes that bulls***. 18 years in the NFL and you don't workout, come on. Ben had elbow surgery and messed up his arm for the first time in his life. He needed to get adjusted and then when he did he was throwing to guys he never played with or played with them as backups. Ben is an extraordinary athlete. He was recruited by Duke in basketball. He was an all state SS in baseball. He shoots par on a US Open course. People he is not immobile. Give him a chance. Bayless is right, if he works hard he will be excellent but he will never weigh less than 245 lbs.
                    you're talking about a city that was so harsh on a QB that started and won 4 SBs not wanting to come back to the place he played in for 20 + years because he thought they wouldn't treat him well

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                    • Blitzburgh
                      Rookie
                      • Apr 2021
                      • 30

                      #40
                      Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                      same as your Bull$hit excuses when there is a question about a coaching decision.
                      which coaching decisions?
                      Last edited by Blitzburgh; 04-18-2021, 11:13 PM.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35315

                        #41
                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Ben not trying to recover the ball.
                        I agree, but it's always what he does when he's losing an argument.
                        Last edited by hawaiiansteel; 04-19-2021, 12:01 AM.

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                        • NJ-STEELER
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 12563

                          #42
                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          here's what we know:

                          Ben didn't try for it and the Browns recovered the ball.

                          maybe if Ben had you know actually tried the Steelers would have recovered the ball and not given the Browns the momentum on our opening drive.
                          here's what we also know. the starting running back of the team with one third of the season's played in comparison to Ben beat him to the ball and missed it completely.

                          wait, never mind, i'll go with the train of thought some are expressing here.

                          ben is fat and lazy and even though he ran back to get the ball, it was just for show because he never wanted to recover it.
                          without that play, we easily beat the browns. probably shut them out because the browns were missing 3 Offensive linemen. the bad snapped put the Steeler defense in shock and suddenly they couldn't tackle the Cleveland RBs or wide receivers

                          sounds about right. lol

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                          • NJ-STEELER
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 12563

                            #43
                            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                            I agree, but it's always what he does when he's losing an argument.
                            the next time i lose an argument to you will the first.

                            hahaha

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                            • Blitzburgh
                              Rookie
                              • Apr 2021
                              • 30

                              #44
                              Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                              here's what we also know. the starting running back of the team with one third of the season's played in comparison to Ben beat him to the ball and missed it completely.

                              wait, never mind, i'll go with the train of thought some are expressing here.

                              ben is fat and lazy and even though he ran back to get the ball, it was just for show because he never wanted to recover it.
                              without that play, we easily beat the browns. probably shut them out because the browns were missing 3 Offensive linemen. the bad snapped put the Steeler defense in shock and suddenly they couldn't tackle the Cleveland RBs or wide receivers

                              sounds about right. lol
                              stop trying to twist everything around to fit your false narrative.

                              Ben didn't try for it and Cleveland recovered the ball.

                              so since we know what happened when Ben didn't even make an attempt, I wonder if we would have recovered the ball if Ben had tried.

                              but we'll never know. all we know is that TD gave the Browns the opening momentum to go on and win.

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                              • Blitzburgh
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2021
                                • 30

                                #45
                                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                                the next time i lose an argument to you will the first.

                                hahaha
                                I would think you would be used to losing arguments to me by now.

                                hahahahahahaha

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