Skip Bayless thinks Ben can play for three more years if he rededicated himself

[hawaiiansteel]

Your right... now that a little time has passed, people are romanticizing about Ben. He was baaaad at the end.

And Ben didn’t want to have anything to do with that bad snap.

so are you suggesting that we trade ALMOST all of our draft choices this year to move up to #1 and draft Trevor Lawrence?

[feltdizz]

Arm strength wasn't a question. Accuracy was not good. He was the 21st ranked QB in the NFL in 10-20 yd range.... behind Andy Dalton . He was 25th in the NFL >20 yds passing.

And he can't move away from harm any more in the pocket. His knees are cooked. Did you watch him attempt to recover the snap in the playoff?? Some of you need reminded how bad things were.

All this is true.. but if he can get us to 10 or more wins I don’t think the FO really cares.

I believe the hope is playoffs and maybe Ben catches lightning in a bottle and has one more SB run.

Would not be surprised one bit if we see the exact same thing play out with another ugly playoff game IF we make it that far.

[Ernie]

The posts about Ben playing at a high level for an extended term at this point in his career are wishful thinking. We are at a competitive disadvantage with Ben at QB at this point in his career.. because of his lack of mobility.. our refusal to line him up under center (negating a play action pass game)... and his inability to practice, or get meaningful reps in the preseason.
If we are successful this year.. it will be because of our defense holding teams down...and the reemergence of a running game. Ben doesn't move the needle at this stage in his career... too many limitations...and father time is undefeated.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

Arm strength wasn't a question. Accuracy was not good. He was the 21st ranked QB in the NFL in 10-20 yd range.... behind Andy Dalton . He was 25th in the NFL >20 yds passing.

And he can't move away from harm any more in the pocket. His knees are cooked. Did you watch him attempt to recover the snap in the playoff?? Some of you need reminded how bad things were.

While this is true, he has a bad OL, receivers who dropped too many. What would his accuracy be in the 10-20 yard range without all of the drops? Mid range??

I give Ben 1 year at a time, and he should know we are actively trying to replace him.

[NorthCoast]

All this is true.. but if he can get us to 10 or more wins I don’t think the FO really cares.

I believe the hope is playoffs and maybe Ben catches lightning in a bottle and has one more SB run.

Would not be surprised one bit if we see the exact same thing play out with another ugly playoff game IF we make it that far.

I didn't even want to bring up his recent playoff record. You are spot on. It ain't good. I wonder if the rest of the AFC would like to see the Steelers in the playoffs, thinking of it as an easy win?
I am always hopeful for the Steelers. But returning so many guys from last season has given me a bad case of underwhelming deja vue.

[steelcurtain44]

While this is true, he has a bad OL, receivers who dropped too many. What would his accuracy be in the 10-20 yard range without all of the drops? Mid range??

I give Ben 1 year at a time, and he should know we are actively trying to replace him.

Pass blocking was never the issue with the line. Run blocking was. I dont know why its so hard for people to understand. Ben cannot break tackles and run around like he once could. That was what made he different from the other QBs.

Now he has to make most of his throws from the pocket. That was never his game. He still has the arm, but he never was considered an accurate passer to throw from pocket. On the run though he was at his best. Now your asking him to throw from the pocket, hence the move to the short passes.

Ben never work out in the off season to get it physical condition. What makes people think he can play 2 or 3 more years? The guy hardly practice and he is literally immobile as a QB. I just can get over him not even bending over to recover that fumble. Its like his body said no.

[feltdizz]

Pass blocking was never the issue with the line. Run blocking was. I dont know why its so hard for people to understand. Ben cannot break tackles and run around like he once could. That was what made he different from the other QBs.

Now he has to make most of his throws from the pocket. That was never his game. He still has the arm, but he never was considered an accurate passer to throw from pocket. On the run though he was at his best. Now your asking him to throw from the pocket, hence the move to the short passes.

Ben never work out in the off season to get it physical condition. What makes people think he can play 2 or 3 more years? The guy hardly practice and he is literally immobile as a QB. I just can get over him not even bending over to recover that fumble. Its like his body said no.

Maybe that is another reason we had no interest in bringing Conner back. He knew Ben’s knees were shot and still hesitated.

[NorthCoast]

Pass blocking was never the issue with the line. Run blocking was. I dont know why its so hard for people to understand. Ben cannot break tackles and run around like he once could. That was what made he different from the other QBs.

Now he has to make most of his throws from the pocket. That was never his game. He still has the arm, but he never was considered an accurate passer to throw from pocket. On the run though he was at his best. Now your asking him to throw from the pocket, hence the move to the short passes.

Ben never work out in the off season to get it physical condition. What makes people think he can play 2 or 3 more years? The guy hardly practice and he is literally immobile as a QB. I just can get over him not even bending over to recover that fumble. Its like his body said no.

Pass blocking (actually lack of) was the reason Roethlisberger set a record in fastest time-to-throw last season. The line was not good even in pass pro.

[NorthCoast]

Maybe that is another reason we had no interest in bringing Conner back. He knew Ben’s knees were shot and still hesitated.

smacks of two guys playing not to get hurt

[Blitzburgh]

smacks of two guys playing not to get hurt

I was horrified when I saw that play.

seriously, how do you not go for the ball there and try your best to recover it?

[NJ-STEELER]

Your right... now that a little time has passed, people are romanticizing about Ben. He was baaaad at the end.

And Ben didn’t want to have anything to do with that bad snap.

??

i keep seeing this and wonder if people remember what occurred.

connor was step for step with him going after the bad snap.

if they both go for the ball, they likely might cancel each other out.

who do you want jumping on that ball a near 40 yr old QB or a mid 20s 6'2 230LB running back?

[hawaiiansteel]

who do you want jumping on that ball a near 40 yr old QB or a mid 20s 6'2 230LB running back?

maybe if Ben had also tried we would have recovered the ball.

[NJ-STEELER]

maybe if Ben had also tried we would have recovered the ball.

check the video of it and you can see what happened for yourself


or should i answer you with the tomlin defense. but better

2 time SB champion. never had a losing season. sure fire hall of famer. top 10 in every major statistical category

[hawaiiansteel]

or should i answer you with the tomlin defense. but better

2 time SB champion. never had a losing season. sure fire hall of famer. top 10 in every major statistical category

that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Ben not trying to recover the ball.

[NJ-STEELER]

that has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Ben not trying to recover the ball.

same as your Bull$hit excuses when there is a question about a coaching decision.