Stafford for Goff and more...

[Northern_Blitz]

Yeah, we'll see. I think the Rams GM is smart enough or has learned to know you can't over pay for tier 3 starters , especially ones who make over 30M a year on the cap. While losing the two first round picks can hurt a defense, the Rams can now spend properly in free agency. Plus they have lots of draft picks in the future.

According to this excellent chart, the Rams were #1 overall in defense last year.

https://www.lineups.com/nfl-team-rankings/defense

Looking over their team, it's' young overall. Probably one of the younger teams in the NFL. I don't see any old players on defense that matter. Just two men with over 10 years experience on the team and one is the long snapper, the other should retire soon on the OL. IMO, the Rams D is good for 4-5 years. It's Ramseys 5th year, and Donald's 7th year. No age issues with the key star players on defense.

https://www.therams.com/team/players-roster/

I'm not sure I'd call their FO smart. But at least they've tried to correct their big mistakes.

The screwed up the Gurley contract.

Then they screwed up the Goff contract.

Now they're putting all their chips on Stafford (who has never won a playoff game and has only been to the playoffs 3 times).

And they probably only have 1 or 2 years before they (1) re-up Stafford to a market level deal or (2) start another rebuild because they got rid of their QB. Maybe they tag him after 2022?

The way they've run their team in their competitive window is a very interesting counterpoint to how the Steelers worked with Ben.

I think we'll look back at Ben's career and say something like: I thought we would win more SBs, but it was fun to feel like we were competitive most years for a decade and a half or so.

I think the Rams will look back at this window and say: That was over pretty quickly. We spent so much draft capital to be in win now mode for a short time.

My guess is they'll know in a year or two whether or not it was successful / worth it. But I bet it will feel like a waste if they don't come away with a championship in the next 2 to three years.

Also, I agree that a good part of their current success is because of their D. Not their O who racked up almost a FG less per game than our Steelers this year.

[Joel Buchsbaum]

This is spot on.
I’m stuck in lion land and have family that are huge fans. I see, hear and read about the lions more than I care to. Stafford is good.
He is pretty much their whole team. He does have inflated stats but that’s because they are always behind. He has also been dinged up but plays tough. He’s had some injuries that would justify him sitting out but he played thru it.
No reason for him to play the last game of the season but he did anyway. The guy is tough. Good family man and good for the community.
His stats may not go up because they probably won’t have to.

The only way I see this not working is because that division is brutal and they may not make the playoffs even tho they will be a quality team.

I think so too, and my condolences. There are some teams in pro sports that must endure generational suffering. I am from Long Island. There are plenty of Jet's fans.

If I may, here is a true story of a friend of mine.


Friend: Hey Dad, how come the Jet's can win win the Super Bowl?

His father: They won it once in 1969.

Friend: Dad that was before I was born.

His Father: I know son, they are just bad. You can watch the game with me ,but don't expect them to win often.

Fast forward 30 years, now my friend is a father himself and , and has his own son.

Son: Hey Dad, can I watch the Jets game with you?

Freind: Sit down next to me for a moment. You can always watch the games with me, but don't expect the Jets to win often.

That's generational suffering. At least grandpa saw one championship in his life time, even it it was over 50 years ago.

I think Detroit, Cleveland and Jacksonville are other only teams never to win a Super Bowl.

[Northern_Blitz]

I think so too, and my condolences. There are some teams in pro sports that must endure generational suffering. I am from Long Island. There are plenty of Jet's fans.

If I may, here is a true story of a friend of mine.


Friend: Hey Dad, how come the Jet's can win win the Super Bowl?

His father: They won it once in 1969.

Friend: Dad that was before I was born.

His Father: I know son, they are just bad. You can watch the game with me ,but don't expect them to win often.

Fast forward 30 years, now my friend is a father himself and , and has his own son.

Son: Hey Dad, can I watch the Jets game with you?

Freind: Sit down next to me for a moment. You can always watch the games with me, but don't expect the Jets to win often.

That's generational suffering. At least grandpa saw one championship in his life time, even it it was over 50 years ago.

I think Detroit, Cleveland and Jacksonville are other only teams never to win a Super Bowl.

Let's all hope that this isn't the future in store for the Steelers.

It's only a matter of time before we hit a genuine bad spell.

[hawaiiansteel]

[whatever]

I think so too, and my condolences. There are some teams in pro sports that must endure generational suffering. I am from Long Island. There are plenty of Jet's fans.

If I may, here is a true story of a friend of mine.


Friend: Hey Dad, how come the Jet's can win win the Super Bowl?

His father: They won it once in 1969.

Friend: Dad that was before I was born.

His Father: I know son, they are just bad. You can watch the game with me ,but don't expect them to win often.

Fast forward 30 years, now my friend is a father himself and , and has his own son.

Son: Hey Dad, can I watch the Jets game with you?

Freind: Sit down next to me for a moment. You can always watch the games with me, but don't expect the Jets to win often.

That's generational suffering. At least grandpa saw one championship in his life time, even it it was over 50 years ago.

I think Detroit, Cleveland and Jacksonville are other only teams never to win a Super Bowl.

The nice part about that is knowing their favorite team sucks.
I’ve got family that think they are championship bound every year.
When they lose, they seriously believe that the nfl wants them to lose and tell the refs to make sure they do.
Every new coach and gm are the savior but suck after they get fired.
Every draft pick is awesome.
They are always just a player or two away.....etc etc etc.
I can’t understand why they just can’t be realistic about the team.
I’ve heard this crap so long, it’s probably why I have zero tolerance gif the rah rah guys on here.
I learned at age 6 not to be a lions fan. I was able to get my wife to love the steelers and raised our kids steeler fans. Now they don’t have the mindset I do on winning, they at least can go to work, school etc with their heads high. Family reunions are quite fun for us.

[feltdizz]

This is spot on.
I’m stuck in lion land and have family that are huge fans. I see, hear and read about the lions more than I care to. Stafford is good.
He is pretty much their whole team. He does have inflated stats but that’s because they are always behind. He has also been dinged up but plays tough. He’s had some injuries that would justify him sitting out but he played thru it.
No reason for him to play the last game of the season but he did anyway. The guy is tough. Good family man and good for the community.
His stats may not go up because they probably won’t have to.

The only way I see this not working is because that division is brutal and they may not make the playoffs even tho they will be a quality team.

if they miss the playoffs with Stafford then this trade was a failure.

I think Stafford is better than Goff but still have no idea if he will be able to handle playoff pressure if they make it that far.

Rams were really aggressive in handing out big contracts for past performance. Almost felt like these were SB bonuses and not even considered in the future of the franchises cap space.

I don’t mind the win now bet they are placing, who knows if it works but there is more than one way to make a SB run.

[feltdizz]

The nice part about that is knowing their favorite team sucks.
I’ve got family that think they are championship bound every year.
When they lose, they seriously believe that the nfl wants them to lose and tell the refs to make sure they do.
Every new coach and gm are the savior but suck after they get fired.
Every draft pick is awesome.
They are always just a player or two away.....etc etc etc.
I can’t understand why they just can’t be realistic about the team.
I’ve heard this crap so long, it’s probably why I have zero tolerance gif the rah rah guys on here.
I learned at age 6 not to be a lions fan. I was able to get my wife to love the steelers and raised our kids steeler fans. Now they don’t have the mindset I do on winning, they at least can go to work, school etc with their heads high. Family reunions are quite fun for us.

this post explains a lot.

It all makes sense now.

Thanks!

[whatever]

this post explains a lot.

It all makes sense now.

Thanks!

Good, maybe this helps you will finally get it.

[feltdizz]

Good, maybe this helps you will finally get it.

I definitely got it now.

You grew up rooting for a losing franchise and decided to abandon ship..

You hitched your wagon to ours but it still triggers you when you read post by die hard Steeler fans.

Makes perfect sense now. I’m not knocking you either, I just think people who are born and raised fans of their home team are loyal. We have no where else to go, this is our only team. Its all we know.

[whatever]

I definitely got it now.

You grew up rooting for a losing franchise and decided to abandon ship..

You hitched your wagon to ours but it still triggers you when you read post by die hard Steeler fans.

Makes perfect sense now. I’m not knocking you either, I just think people who are born and raised fans of their home team are loyal. We have no where else to go, this is our only team. Its all we know.

My dad didn’t watch sports so to say I was born and raised a lions fan and switched at age 6 is ignorant.
I was never a lions fan or a fan of any Nfl team. So you are once again making things up.
I guarantee you zero 6 year olds know anything about nfl teams(especially 40-50 years ago) especially enough to abandon ship.
Nobody is forced to have their home town team their favorite.
Do you think every steeler fan in this country/world was born and raised in Pittsburg?

[feltdizz]

My dad didn’t watch sports so to say I was born and raised a lions fan and switched at age 6 is ignorant.
I was never a lions fan or a fan of any Nfl team. So you are once again making things up.
I guarantee you zero 6 year olds know anything about nfl teams(especially 40-50 years ago) especially enough to abandon ship.
Nobody is forced to have their home town team their favorite.
Do you think every steeler fan in this country/world was born and raised in Pittsburg?

Steeler fans definitely aren’t born and raised in Pittsburg

[whisper]

Steeler fans definitely aren’t born and raised in Pittsburg

Well, a lot of us are were. If you grew up in western PA, chances are you are a Steeler fan.

[feltdizz]

Well, a lot of us are were. If you grew up in western PA, chances are you are a Steeler fan.

I’m from Western, PA.

I just think its telling when someone forgets to put the H at the end of Pittsburgh.

You don’t have to be born and raised to be a Steeler fan but I think there is a difference in fanaticism with fans who pick their team vs those who are raised to root for the home team.

[feltdizz]

My dad didn’t watch sports so to say I was born and raised a lions fan and switched at age 6 is ignorant.
I was never a lions fan or a fan of any Nfl team. So you are once again making things up.
I guarantee you zero 6 year olds know anything about nfl teams(especially 40-50 years ago) especially enough to abandon ship.
Nobody is forced to have their home town team their favorite.
Do you think every steeler fan in this country/world was born and raised in Pittsburg?

I didn’t say anything about your parents.

and yes, I don’t think anyone is making a hard decision at 6 to stop being a fan of the hime team. I think that decision happens later in life.

But as someone born and raised in the 70’s in the Burgh.. well, I’ll just leave this here.

[D Rock]

I didn’t say anything about your parents.

and yes, I don’t think anyone is making a hard decision at 6 to stop being a fan of the hime team. I think that decision happens later in life.

But as someone born and raised in the 70’s in the Burgh.. well, I’ll just leave this here.

Yeah, when you're born in or around the Burgh, that's just the way it is.

I 'chose' to be a Jaguars fan when I was in elementary school and they were new and fun.

By highschool I was on the old Trib board talking Steelers every day.