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  • feltdizz
    Legend
    • May 2008
    • 27532

    #61
    Originally posted by D Rock
    Yeah, when you're born in or around the Burgh, that's just the way it is.

    I 'chose' to be a Jaguars fan when I was in elementary school and they were new and fun.

    By highschool I was on the old Trib board talking Steelers every day.
    Indeed. Small sample size but one thing I always seem to notice is a few Pittsburgh natives who despise the Steelers and hate their fans.

    When I ask why.. they pretty much give the same reasons whatever listed. They got tired of hearing about how awesome the home team was or how fans kept living in the past (I grew up in the 80’s and was barely old enough to remember the last SB win in the 70’s).

    I’m sure its like this in evert football town with die hard fans.
    Steelers 27
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    • Joel Buchsbaum
      Legend
      • Jan 2021
      • 7744

      #62
      Originally posted by whisper
      Well, a lot of us are were. If you grew up in western PA, chances are you are a Steeler fan.
      From my experience the fans outside of Pittsburgh are different.

      Steeler fans born in Pittsburgh area don't seem to question the teams moves as much, and are a little more jolly and accepting. For example used to watch the games in a really good Steeler bar in he mid 1990's to early 2,000's called Spamky's and it was full of people from Western Pennsylvania. Outside of those who thought I worked for the FBI ( There was some pot deals going on ) they accepted me as one of their own with open arms, and the bartender saved me a seat at there version of the 50 yard line. I didn't look like them, talk like them or drive a car like them. Didn't matter. I was fully accepted as one of their own.

      Steelers fans outside of Pittsburgh to me are more pragmatic and just as likely to cheer or boo, depending on how the game is working out. Don't ask me which group knew more about the Steelers and football in general.
      Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

      Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

      *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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      • D Rock
        Hall of Famer
        • Dec 2008
        • 2797

        #63
        Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
        From my experience the fans outside of Pittsburgh are different.

        Steeler fans born in Pittsburgh area don't seem to question the teams moves as much, and are a little more jolly and accepting. For example used to watch the games in a really good Steeler bar in he mid 1990's to early 2,000's called Spamky's and it was full of people from Western Pennsylvania. Outside of those who thought I worked for the FBI ( There was some pot deals going on ) they accepted me as one of their own with open arms, and the bartender saved me a seat at there version of the 50 yard line. I didn't look like them, talk like them or drive a car like them. Didn't matter. I was fully accepted as one of their own.

        Steelers fans outside of Pittsburgh to me are more pragmatic and just as likely to cheer or boo, depending on how the game is working out. Don't ask me which group knew more about the Steelers and football in general.
        I find that it's easier to accept the bad when you have a shared identity, such as a geographical tie, and you then don't question your loyalty or if you want to maybe find a new team. That's why Bills fans are so hardcore even before this year. Doesn't matter that they suck every year, that's your team. You ride with them whether they win or lose.

        The Steelers aren't my 'favorite team'. They aren't 'the team I root for'.

        The Steelers are MY team
        Last edited by D Rock; 02-03-2021, 02:56 PM.

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27532

          #64
          Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
          From my experience the fans outside of Pittsburgh are different.

          Steeler fans born in Pittsburgh area don't seem to question the teams moves as much, and are a little more jolly and accepting. For example used to watch the games in a really good Steeler bar in he mid 1990's to early 2,000's called Spamky's and it was full of people from Western Pennsylvania. Outside of those who thought I worked for the FBI ( There was some pot deals going on ) they accepted me as one of their own with open arms, and the bartender saved me a seat at there version of the 50 yard line. I didn't look like them, talk like them or drive a car like them. Didn't matter. I was fully accepted as one of their own.

          Steelers fans outside of Pittsburgh to me are more pragmatic and just as likely to cheer or boo, depending on how the game is working out. Don't ask me which group knew more about the Steelers and football in general.
          When I met my wife and took her home she was like “I cant wait to meet some of the women in your family so we can talk talk football”

          Inside I laughed..

          Then she realized it was the women in our family who were some of the most obnoxious and crazed Steeler fans of them all.

          But when she left the city she realized the Steelers aren’t just the our team.. its a part of us.

          And with my extended family all of our trips to different cities are more fun because when we travel, we usually wear Steeler gear. Which means we meet a bunch of people from home every time we to out.
          Steelers 27
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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            #65
            Originally posted by D Rock
            I find that it's easier to accept the bad when you have a shared identity, such as a geographical tie, and you then don't question your loyalty or if you want to maybe find a new team. That's why Bills fans are so hardcore even before this year. Doesn't matter that they suck every year, that's your team. You ride with them whether they win or lose.

            The Steelers aren't my 'favorite team'. They aren't 'the team I root for'.

            The Steelers are MY team
            Well, all the Steeler fans I know are just as dedicated as Steeler fans I know in Pennsylvania. They root for no other football team.

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #66
              lmao.. now that is funny.
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              • Oviedo
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 23824

                #67
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                Indeed. Small sample size but one thing I always seem to notice is a few Pittsburgh natives who despise the Steelers and hate their fans.

                .
                We have an active cell of them on this board who claim to be fans but whose initial reaction is to hate everything the team does.

                I guess similar to those who live in the US (and never have the courage to move) but find something to hate about the US

                Not sure if that is a mental illness or what
                "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                • Joel Buchsbaum
                  Legend
                  • Jan 2021
                  • 7744

                  #68
                  Originally posted by feltdizz
                  When I met my wife and took her home she was like “I cant wait to meet some of the women in your family so we can talk talk football”

                  Inside I laughed..

                  Then she realized it was the women in our family who were some of the most obnoxious and crazed Steeler fans of them all.

                  But when she left the city she realized the Steelers aren’t just the our team.. its a part of us.

                  And with my extended family all of our trips to different cities are more fun because when we travel, we usually wear Steeler gear. Which means we meet a bunch of people from home every time we to out.
                  When I got married, my wife knew the deal. Sunday from 1:00-4:00PM is game time and that's where I will be. She knew my background and fully accepted it. To those getting married or thinking about doing it, get this stuff sorted out long before the ring comes.

                  Initially she tired to watch the games with me. That didn't work for more than a season, as the ref's hand signals and players dancing after a touchdown were her favorite part. Some of the comments were funny. Like how come their kicker kicks it deeper into the end zone, or why did Tomlin throw that flag, the TV replay shows he was clearly out. You just had to be there. Eventually she opted out, which is fine by me.
                  Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in seven years and counting. The earliest will be eight years. I guess that in Art Rooney's II, opinion is worth a 3 year extension.

                  Our 2024 draft looks to be grade A. Our 2023 draft is an A. The roster is talented, but Mike Tomlin is still the head coach.

                  *** Mike Tomlin is the best coach since the AFL- NFL merger that has not won a playoff game in 8 seasons or more. It's either him or Lewis. ***

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                  • Northern_Blitz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 24373

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                    When I got married, my wife knew the deal. Sunday from 1:00-4:00PM is game time and that's where I will be. She knew my background and fully accepted it. To those getting married or thinking about doing it, get this stuff sorted out long before the ring comes.

                    Initially she tired to watch the games with me. That didn't work for more than a season, as the ref's hand signals and players dancing after a touchdown were her favorite part. Some of the comments were funny. Like how come their kicker kicks it deeper into the end zone, or why did Tomlin throw that flag, the TV replay shows he was clearly out. You just had to be there. Eventually she opted out, which is fine by me.
                    Honestly, I think it sucks that you and your wife can't share something cool. My wife wasn't a big football fan, but she really got into it when we were married. I think because she knew that I was really passionate about it. And because I didn't make fun of her for asking questions that seemed stupid to someone who had followed the game for a long time.

                    Also...I'd say you should try to enjoy your 1 - 4 PM window while you can. If you intend to have a family, you probably won't be able to (and honestly you may not want to) block that time out every week.

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                    • feltdizz
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 27532

                      #70
                      Originally posted by Joel Buchsbaum
                      When I got married, my wife knew the deal. Sunday from 1:00-4:00PM is game time and that's where I will be. She knew my background and fully accepted it. To those getting married or thinking about doing it, get this stuff sorted out long before the ring comes.

                      Initially she tired to watch the games with me. That didn't work for more than a season, as the ref's hand signals and players dancing after a touchdown were her favorite part. Some of the comments were funny. Like how come their kicker kicks it deeper into the end zone, or why did Tomlin throw that flag, the TV replay shows he was clearly out. You just had to be there. Eventually she opted out, which is fine by me.
                      once my wife went home it clicked with her.. and she will were the gear and bring positive vibes when I’m watching but she realized Steeler games aren’t the time to ask questions.

                      The Steeler/AZ superbowl is where she also finally understood why I scream and get angry when we are up 2 scores.. lol

                      Mostly tho, she just needs the team we are playing, who won and who had a good game so she can clap back when someone challenged her when she is wearing something with Pittsburgh on it.
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                      • feltdizz
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 27532

                        #71
                        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                        Honestly, I think it sucks that you and your wife can't share something cool. My wife wasn't a big football fan, but she really got into it when we were married. I think because she knew that I was really passionate about it. And because I didn't make fun of her for asking questions that seemed stupid to someone who had followed the game for a long time.

                        Also...I'd say you should try to enjoy your 1 - 4 PM window while you can. If you intend to have a family, you probably won't be able to (and honestly you may not want to) block that time out every week.
                        nah.. I disagree. My wife and I have so much other stuff we enjoy together, I appreciate that she gives me space to watch the games.

                        but these kids? 2 girls under 6 and if they want to go outside and play or go to the playground.. well, the game will have to wait.
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                        • Northern_Blitz
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 24373

                          #72
                          Originally posted by feltdizz
                          nah.. I disagree. My wife and I have so much other stuff we enjoy together, I appreciate that she gives me space to watch the games.

                          but these kids? 2 girls under 6 and if they want to go outside and play or go to the playground.. well, the game will have to wait.
                          I've got 3 girls 3, 8, and 10. And they're still of ages where they want to do stuff with the old man.

                          Trying not to end up like the guy in "Cat's in the Cradle" .

                          Certainly batting less than 1.000 though.

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27532

                            #73
                            Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                            I've got 3 girls 3, 8, and 10. And they're still of ages where they want to do stuff with the old man.

                            Trying not to end up like the guy in "Cat's in the Cradle" .

                            Certainly batting less than 1.000 though.
                            at least we know we will be taken care of once we really get old
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