Question for those of you who are critical of Tomlin....

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  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 24373

    #16
    Originally posted by Starlifter
    To win a super bowl there aren’t many combinations.

    Great players - great coach. Check and possible dynasty

    Great players - good coach. Check, but limited window

    Great players - bad coach. One and done.

    Good players - great coach. Playoffs but unlikely SB

    Good players - good coach. Week 17 decides the playoffs.

    Good players - bad coach. Miss the playoffs by 2 games.

    Bad players - great coach. Hoping for a winning season to build on

    Bad players - good coach. 4-12.

    Bad players - bad coach. J.E.T.S....Jets Jets Jets.

    So it seems to me, great players factor more than great coaching - but both are critical.
    Yep.

    Both are important, but talent per cap hit is more important than coaching in a cap league.

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    • skyhawk
      Hall of Famer
      • Dec 2008
      • 3732

      #17
      Originally posted by Captain Lemming
      Yeah right.
      How many rings does he have without the best QB in the league?

      You gotta come better than that weak take Bugs Bunny.
      That wascally wabbit!

      Reid and his staff have been winning games for years.

      You put mahommes and kelce et all and I guarantee you Tomlin and ****ner will bungle it. Guaranteed. Just as they bummed away the ben , Antonio, bell years and were NEVER in the top five offensively, yards per game, OR scoring. (Highest was like 9 and 7th respectively).

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      • Mr.wizard
        Legend
        • May 2014
        • 6686

        #18
        Originally posted by skyhawk
        That wascally wabbit!

        Reid and his staff have been winning games for years.

        You put mahommes and kelce et all and I guarantee you Tomlin and ****ner will bungle it. Guaranteed. Just as they bummed away the ben , Antonio, bell years and were NEVER in the top five offensively, yards per game, OR scoring. (Highest was like 9 and 7th respectively).
        That's not true:

        2014 : 2nd in yds 7th in pts
        2015 : 3rd in yds 4th in pts
        2016 : 7th in yds 10th in pts
        2017: 3rd in yds 8th in pts
        2018: 4th in yds 6th in pts

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        • Steel Maniac
          Banned
          • Apr 2017
          • 19472

          #19
          Originally posted by skyhawk



          You put mahommes and kelce et all and I guarantee you Tomlin and ****ner will bungle it. Guaranteed. Just as they bummed away the ben , Antonio, bell years
          Yep .......... wasted a decade of Ben’s career.

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          • Mr.wizard
            Legend
            • May 2014
            • 6686

            #20
            Originally posted by Steel Maniac
            Yep .......... wasted a decade of Ben’s career.
            Ben is a first ballot hall of famer, wouldnt exactly call it a waste.

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            • feltdizz
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 27532

              #21
              Originally posted by Mr.wizard
              Ben is a first ballot hall of famer, wouldnt exactly call it a waste.
              and people act like Ben has played SB worthy football every year we didn’t make it.

              Turnovers in the playoffs, usually by the QB are the biggest reason we “wasted” Ben’s years.

              lets look at some of these other QB’s headed to the HOF who wasted years due to coaching

              Brees
              Rodgers
              Eli
              Peyton
              Rivers
              Wilson

              so many wasted years... smh.
              Steelers 27
              Rats 16

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              • NorthCoast
                Legend
                • Sep 2008
                • 26636

                #22
                Originally posted by feltdizz
                and people act like Ben has played SB worthy football every year we didn’t make it.

                Turnovers in the playoffs, usually by the QB are the biggest reason we “wasted” Ben’s years.

                lets look at some of these other QB’s headed to the HOF who wasted years due to coaching

                Brees
                Rodgers
                Eli
                Peyton
                Rivers
                Wilson

                so many wasted years... smh.
                took the words out of my mouth... but you don't understand. The Steelers are different than every other team in the NFL.

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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35648

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                  Yep........wasted a decade of Ben’s career.
                  that was Ben's choice, can't blame Tomlin for that.

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #24
                    Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                    Isn’t the head coach a big part of the draft process?.
                    Sure he is. We see Tomlin sitting next to Colbert every year in the war room. Tomlin has major input obviously. He’s not sitting there for his good looks!!

                    But only Colbert is mentioned when a guy doesn’t pan out. But when the guy does pan out, TBW’s say it’s Tomlin’s coaching.

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                    • NJ-STEELER
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 12563

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                      Yep .......... wasted a decade of Ben’s career.
                      We're likely close to looking for a 3rd hand to fit our championship rings if belicheck is out coach.
                      shame, because we have the rooney mara connection between the 2 franchises

                      instead we have dumb and dumber

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                      • NJ-STEELER
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 12563

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                        Sure he is. We see Tomlin sitting next to Colbert every year in the war room.
                        also visiting pro days and individual workouts

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35648

                          #27
                          Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                          also visiting pro days and individual workouts
                          of only Maryland and Virginia

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                          • skyhawk
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 3732

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                            Ben is a first ballot hall of famer, wouldnt exactly call it a waste.
                            1st ballot? I have my doubts.

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                            • Steelhere10
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 3849

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                              Is it the players or the coach?

                              The answer is easy.

                              Look at the SB favorite KC Chiefs. They have an awesome coach.

                              Say you had to bet your life savings on the Steelers and could snatch any one person from the Chiefs to do it...would it be that coach to replace Tomlin?

                              Your answer is ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of why the Chiefs are SB favorites rather than the Steelers.
                              Are you going to tell me that you would take Andy over Pat... 😁😁😁😁😁, that's funny bro!!
                              [url=http://img525.imageshack.us/i/steelers2010.jpg/]http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/2...eelers2010.jpg[/url]

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                              • Steel Maniac
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2017
                                • 19472

                                #30
                                Originally posted by NJ-STEELER
                                also visiting pro days and individual workouts
                                Yep. But certain posters want to blame everything on Colbert. Like Tomlin doesn’t have input.

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