Washington Wants Tomlin

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Oh Wow, why are you using the "oh wow" name again? I thought you went back to your "feltdizz" handle?

hope that was sarcasm - lol...
(felt really got banned again)

[Northern_Blitz]

There was also the sack fumble returned for a TD.

I think, I can’t remember.. we turned the ball over so much in those Jags losses that year I can’t remember if the sack fumble was in the first game or the second.. or both.

Don’t forget the 4th and short where Eli was wide open for a first down and Ben tried to go to JuJu who was blanketed and maybe interfered with.. smh.

Just looked this up for the post I made above.

5 picks in the first game.
1 pick and 1 fumble in the playoff game.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

5 picks in the first game.

Tomlin's fault. shoulda had Ben ready

1 pick and 1 fumble in the playoff game.

Actually reasonable... who cares that they didn't have Shazier. DEFINITELY Tomlin's fault

[Oh wow]

Oh Wow, why are you using the "oh wow" name again? I thought you went back to your "feltdizz" handle?

Who is feltdizz?

[Steel Maniac]

it was a Jake Plummer game, wasn't it? At one point, Jake Plummer lead the league in comeback victories, but he also had a habit of giving away a TO or two early in the game before leading the comeback.

IIRC, Ben threw a pick first Steelers possession, first play. Down 14-0 early.

Seems like the next drive (coulda been a drive or two later, but, still first half) was the 4th and 1 where the idiot OC called an outside run instead of right up the middle... why do you do that against a small, fast defense? (Guys, I've been saying it... HALEY has been the problem - but, i digress!)

In any event, sometimes a single bounce or play changes the whole complexion of the game.

And as pointed out above - Shazier....

Sure Ben did throw a pick in the first.................

But at the beginning of the 4th quarter, he had made up for that and we were in position to win IF the defense could stop Blake Bortles.

This notion of games are always lost in the first quarter isn't always true. Not in this case. Ben had brought us all the way back. The defense had an entire quarter to stop Blake Bortles; but instead had Bortles looking like Tom Brady in his hey day.

[Steel Maniac]

hope that was sarcasm - lol...
(felt really got banned again)

I didn't know he got banned again. Wow!!! I had no idea or I wouldn't have asked. Seriously.

[Steel Maniac]

Who is feltdizz?

You need to stop!!!!! You've admitted on several occassions that's who you are; and it's okay with me. I was happy that you went back to your old handle.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

Sure Ben did throw a pick in the first.................

But at the beginning of the 4th quarter, he had made up for that and we were in position to win IF the defense could stop Blake Bortles.

This notion of games are always lost in the first quarter isn't always true. Not in this case. Ben had brought us all the way back. The defense had an entire quarter to stop Blake Bortles; but instead had Bortles looking like Tom Brady in his hey day.

I think there were lots of factors, including playing minus Shazier. It is hard to stop any pro offense without your best defensive player.

Moreover, I still blame TH and his play calling. I questioned going for it on 4th and 1 (down 14-0, I take the FG and see what happens). But having a big QB (who you never ran QB sneak with), a big OL and an "average speed RB" and choosing to run a sweep against a fast defense is inexcusable. It's flat out dumb.

Part of the reason they came back was no-huddle, where Ben called plays. That season, that seemed to be the case often. They ran more no-huddle.

I will repeat that I personally think years of Haley is what cost this team opportunities to go to the SB during Ben's prime. Turns out, he was also the only guy who could shut down Mike Wallace during HIS prime... (not that we had him that year, but he SORELY underutilized that guy in the one year he had him)

[Oh wow]

You need to stop!!!!! You've admitted on several occassions that's who you are; and it's okay with me. I was happy that you went back to your old handle.

Dawg, I don’t know that dude.

[Steel Maniac]

Haley's offense was a good offense. Granted, he and Ben clashed but on the field, the offense put up points. It was the defense that held us back. And to be specific about the defense, we never had a legit secondary.

[Oh wow]

I think there were lots of factors, including playing minus Shazier. It is hard to stop any pro offense without your best defensive player.

Moreover, I still blame TH and his play calling. I questioned going for it on 4th and 1 (down 14-0, I take the FG and see what happens). But having a big QB (who you never ran QB sneak with), a big OL and an "average speed RB" and choosing to run a sweep against a fast defense is inexcusable. It's flat out dumb.

Part of the reason they came back was no-huddle, where Ben called plays. That season, that seemed to be the case often. They ran more no-huddle.

I will repeat that I personally think years of Haley is what cost this team opportunities to go to the SB during Ben's prime. Turns out, he was also the only guy who could shut down Mike Wallace during HIS prime... (not that we had him that year, but he SORELY underutilized that guy in the one year he had him)

Haley had his shortcomings but he also had some great play designs.

I think he got too cute at times but I also don’t buy this notion that Ben called all the no huddle plays. Haley still gets to communicate during the no huddle.

[fordfixer]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dan-snyder-expected-to-make-strong-push-to-acquire-mike-tomlin-from-steelers/?fbclid=IwAR3kRHn3YUlSbQE-3wDTrEA-HhhULBbN77ucacye0rvitBOAW-cjNqQL5G4

Dan Snyder expected to make strong push to acquire Mike Tomlin from Steelers
The Washington owner would be prepared to deal draft picks to Pittsburgh in order to land the coach

Redskins owner Dan Snyder, with his team winless and his fanbase torn between anger and apathy, views Steelers coach Mike Tomlin as best candidate to help revive the franchise, according to numerous sources close to the situation, and is poised to try to acquire his services this offseason.
Snyder, who has long been a fan of Tomlin, has gotten to know the Super Bowl-winning coach more personally over the years, at league meetings and through several mutual friends and peers, and would be willing to give Tomlin a top-of-the-market salary and full authority over the organization, the sources said. He views Tomlin as the kind of coach, leader and face-of-the-franchise Washington sorely lacks -- the perfect point person with the media and sponsors and to help efforts to get a stadium built in downtown Washington, DC.
Tomlin has an excellent coaching record, is a member of the prestigious Competition Committee, is one of the game's great orators and already has relationships with key members of the organization like team president Bruce Allen and general manager Doug Williams from their time in Tampa. Snyder believes Tomlin could help restore faith in the fans and kick-start the team's sagging business operations as well.
Snyder fired coach Jay Gruden last week in his sixth season on the job, and would be prepared to part with draft picks to secure Tomlin, who signed a one-year extension with the Steelers before the season. Three times before has Snyder made the head coach also the head of football operations -- with Marty Schottenheimer, Joe Gibbs and Mike Shanahan -- and Tomlin, a Virginia native, would have the opportunity in Washington to not just to put a coaching staff together, but also reshape the franchise however he sees fit in ways that just would not be feasible in Pittsburgh, where both the coach and general manager report directly to the owner.
Tomlin remains on strong footing with the Rooney family, sources said, despite missing the playoffs last season with a late collapse amid locker room turmoil and despite a slow start this season (1-4). He is in no jeopardy with that franchise. However, the Steelers, who expect Ben Roethlisberger back as starting quarterback next season albeit a year older and coming off major injury, are short on draft capital -- they traded their top two picks in 2019, plus a 2020 third-round pick, to move up for Devin Bush in the draft and are without their 2020 first-round pick (which could be in the top 10) after acquiring Minkah Fitzpatrick last month.

While many around the Steelers organization are skeptical as to how seriously ownership would consider a trade of this nature, the franchise does find itself at a unique potential turning point, with long-time general manager Kevin Colbert declining to sign a contract extension and with a transition at quarterback perhaps coming by 2021 as well. The idea of Tomlin possibly taking over the Washington organization has come up internally there well before Gruden's firing, with Snyder's affinity for him not lost on some, though it's not something they have discussed with the coach.
Some sources who know Tomlin well believe the opportunity in Washington could appeal to him on many levels. The team holds training camp in Richmond, Virginia, not far from Newport News where he grew up, and Tomlin has a son playing at the nearby University of Maryland. Tomlin, very loyal to his assistants, could get a bigger budget for them all in Washington as well. Of course, Tomlin also knows how even the best coaches to have come through Washington under Snyder have suffered, how the team has failed to sustain even a modicum of success under this owner, and how the Rooneys' model in Pittsburgh has helped make the team an almost annual contender for a title.
Snyder also would have interest in Tampa defensive coordinator Todd Bowles, sources said, if securing Tomlin is not possible. He met personally with Bowles last season for a potential defensive coordinator job after he was fired as head coach of the Jets. Gibbs, who is still close with the owner, has urged him to hire Bowles, a former standout defensive back in Washington, as well. Snyder also has maintained ties with Jets defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who was a defensive coordinator in Washington and has been a head coach with Buffalo and Cleveland (as a successful interim last year).
Current Raiders coach Jon Gruden was the last coach to be traded, though the Browns and 49ers did discuss a trade for Jim Harbaugh earlier this decade but could not agree on compensation.

[Terrapin]

lmao. our KR team couldn't get the ball past the 10yd line against Baltimore.

Cincy returns the opening kick for a TD.

#DannySmithForever

[Northern_Blitz]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/d...BOAW-cjNqQL5G4

Dan Snyder expected to make strong push to acquire Mike Tomlin from Steelers
The Washington owner would be prepared to deal draft picks to Pittsburgh in order to land the coach

Redskins owner Dan Snyder, with his team winless and his fanbase torn between anger and apathy, views Steelers coach Mike Tomlin as best candidate to help revive the franchise, according to numerous sources close to the situation, and is poised to try to acquire his services this offseason.
Snyder, who has long been a fan of Tomlin, has gotten to know the Super Bowl-winning coach more personally over the years, at league meetings and through several mutual friends and peers, and would be willing to give Tomlin a top-of-the-market salary and full authority over the organization, the sources said. He views Tomlin as the kind of coach, leader and face-of-the-franchise Washington sorely lacks -- the perfect point person with the media and sponsors and to help efforts to get a stadium built in downtown Washington, DC.
Tomlin has an excellent coaching record, is a member of the prestigious Competition Committee, is one of the game's great orators and already has relationships with key members of the organization like team president Bruce Allen and general manager Doug Williams from their time in Tampa. Snyder believes Tomlin could help restore faith in the fans and kick-start the team's sagging business operations as well.
Snyder fired coach Jay Gruden last week in his sixth season on the job, and would be prepared to part with draft picks to secure Tomlin, who signed a one-year extension with the Steelers before the season. Three times before has Snyder made the head coach also the head of football operations -- with Marty Schottenheimer, Joe Gibbs and Mike Shanahan -- and Tomlin, a Virginia native, would have the opportunity in Washington to not just to put a coaching staff together, but also reshape the franchise however he sees fit in ways that just would not be feasible in Pittsburgh, where both the coach and general manager report directly to the owner.
Tomlin remains on strong footing with the Rooney family, sources said, despite missing the playoffs last season with a late collapse amid locker room turmoil and despite a slow start this season (1-4). He is in no jeopardy with that franchise. However, the Steelers, who expect Ben Roethlisberger back as starting quarterback next season albeit a year older and coming off major injury, are short on draft capital -- they traded their top two picks in 2019, plus a 2020 third-round pick, to move up for Devin Bush in the draft and are without their 2020 first-round pick (which could be in the top 10) after acquiring Minkah Fitzpatrick last month.

While many around the Steelers organization are skeptical as to how seriously ownership would consider a trade of this nature, the franchise does find itself at a unique potential turning point, with long-time general manager Kevin Colbert declining to sign a contract extension and with a transition at quarterback perhaps coming by 2021 as well. The idea of Tomlin possibly taking over the Washington organization has come up internally there well before Gruden's firing, with Snyder's affinity for him not lost on some, though it's not something they have discussed with the coach.
Some sources who know Tomlin well believe the opportunity in Washington could appeal to him on many levels. The team holds training camp in Richmond, Virginia, not far from Newport News where he grew up, and Tomlin has a son playing at the nearby University of Maryland. Tomlin, very loyal to his assistants, could get a bigger budget for them all in Washington as well. Of course, Tomlin also knows how even the best coaches to have come through Washington under Snyder have suffered, how the team has failed to sustain even a modicum of success under this owner, and how the Rooneys' model in Pittsburgh has helped make the team an almost annual contender for a title.
Snyder also would have interest in Tampa defensive coordinator Todd Bowles, sources said, if securing Tomlin is not possible. He met personally with Bowles last season for a potential defensive coordinator job after he was fired as head coach of the Jets. Gibbs, who is still close with the owner, has urged him to hire Bowles, a former standout defensive back in Washington, as well. Snyder also has maintained ties with Jets defensive coordinator Gregg Williams, who was a defensive coordinator in Washington and has been a head coach with Buffalo and Cleveland (as a successful interim last year).
Current Raiders coach Jon Gruden was the last coach to be traded, though the Browns and 49ers did discuss a trade for Jim Harbaugh earlier this decade but could not agree on compensation.

Washington is being intentionally terrible this year.

I'd trade Tomlin for their 1st.

But I doubt the Steelers (or the Redskins) would do it if Tomlin didn't want to do it.

And I can't see any coach preferring to be employed by Dan Snyder than Art Rooney II.

[pittpete]

Please,please,please