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  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 24382

    Originally posted by Oviedo
    There you go peeing in all the Tomlin hater's Wheaties by pointing out the fact that Rooney's secured Tomlin's service for 2 more years at least and potentially 3 years. Facts suck

    Like I said previously, the 15 year tenure mark is when I would expect the Rooneys to be looking to make a change. Guess what, the current contract takes Tomlin to 15 years.
    I think what happened is that Maniac proclaimed last year that Tomlin would get fired after last season or this season (even though he was under contract until 2020 at the time).

    Then when he got extended, Maniac ignored or was ignorant of the fact that the extension went to 2021 (two years after he/she predicted Tomlin would be fired). I think it's easier to ignore the facts and keep saying that this is a "prove it" year for Tomlin and he'll get fired if we don't do X.

    If he doesn't get fired at the end of this year (which should probably be the expected result), then I'm bet we'll get a "Rooney rule" type excuse for why Maniac was wrong. It definitely won't be because the original proclamation was pretty unlikely from the outset.
    Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 10-10-2019, 10:14 AM.

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    • Steel Maniac
      Banned
      • Apr 2017
      • 19472

      Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
      I think what happened is that Maniac proclaimed last year that Tomlin would get fired after last season or this season (even though he was under contract until 2020 at the time).

      Then when he got extended, Maniac ignored or was ignorant of the fact that the extension went to 2021 (two years after he/she predicted Tomlin would be fired). It's easier to ignoring the facts and keep saying that this is a "prove it" year for Tomlin and he'll get fired if we don't do X.

      If he doesn't get fired at the end of this year (which should probably be the expected result), then I'm bet we'll get a "Rooney rule" type excuse for why Maniac was wrong. It definitely won't be because the original proclamation was pretty unlikely from the outset.
      Wow...boy you guys constantly make up stuff about me. When he got his extension, if you include this year, it is a 3 more years under contract. Minus this year and it's two more years remaining under contract. I'm well aware the extension takes him to 2021. That's why I said if he's let go at the end of this year, he'll have two more years of severance pay from us.

      You make up stuff and see what you want to see in what I write, run around the poster room telling that lie, and the TTT pass it on as gospel. There is no hate from me towards Tomlin; He's just a guy who can't get the job done on his on merit. He's a grade "C" coach.

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      • Steel Maniac
        Banned
        • Apr 2017
        • 19472

        Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
        If he doesn't get fired at the end of this year (which should probably be the expected result), then I'm bet we'll get a "Rooney rule" type excuse for why Maniac was wrong. It definitely won't be because the original proclamation was pretty unlikely from the outset.
        And If he is fired, you TTT's will use the excuse, " well all coaches have to go some time" blah, blah, blah. Ignoring the fact that management gave him a lame one year extension which basically says management is in a "prove it to us" mode on you right now.

        If Tomlin is retained thou, it means that management feels all the other bad things swirling around him (and there are a lot) are more of the reason then anything for a second consecutive bad season. I could see them coming to that conclusion. That's fine with me because I was here before Tomlin and I'll be here after he's gone.

        We will not be winning another Super Bowl as long as Tomlin is the coach here. As long as he's here, we won't reach to where we want to go. That's the bottom line.
        Last edited by Steel Maniac; 10-10-2019, 10:21 AM.

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        • Sword
          Pro Bowler
          • Sep 2011
          • 2052

          My god please take this offer if it’s on the table....the fact that people say who are you going to replace him with are Tomlin lovers....time for change!!! Change is good!!!

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          • Steel Maniac
            Banned
            • Apr 2017
            • 19472

            Originally posted by Sword
            My god please take this offer if it’s on the table....the fact that people say who are you going to replace him with are Tomlin lovers....time for change!!! Change is good!!!
            Change is also uncomfortable. And that's the problem with the TTT; they are uncomfortable with what the future may hold. Very lame excuse of saying, " Well who we gonna replace him with?"

            Shows fear of change.

            just refer to the Tomlin lovers as "TTT".

            ***** for the record, Cap, I've never considered you part of the TTT; you actually have some reasons why you feel what you feel; unlike the TTT.
            Last edited by Steel Maniac; 10-10-2019, 10:28 AM.

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            • Northern_Blitz
              Legend
              • Dec 2008
              • 24382

              Originally posted by Sword
              My god please take this offer if it’s on the table....the fact that people say who are you going to replace him with are Tomlin lovers....time for change!!! Change is good!!!
              My guess is that they wouldn't trade what they think could be a top 3 pick...but we traded what's probably going to be a top 10 pick and we're super conservative.

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                Northern_Blitz

                I've updated my signature with the official proclamation. I did it for you buddy. Thanks for the tap on the shoulder. Much appreciated.

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                • JGRedDog
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2019
                  • 27

                  Originally posted by Oh wow
                  Someone on here once blamed Tomlin for not coaching Ben on how to throw less turnovers.

                  Ben has admitted he doesn’t throw in the off-season. He doesn’t sit with the OC or WR’s during games and game plan. He just watches the game.

                  It’s amazing how Ben is seen as this guy who is being wasted when he has never had SB appearances without a top 5 defense.

                  Maybe part of the reasons we aren’t in SB’s is because Ben eats up too much cap space?
                  Ben is super lazy when compared to other NFL QB's, no doubt about that. But he's still been Tomlin's gravy train all these years. He's a HOF QB and a huge reason the Steelers have seen success. Do you think Tomlin is going to still be coach after Ben retires? Why not just try a different coach after this season, change will happen eventually, might as well do it sooner than later.

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                  • Northern_Blitz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 24382

                    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                    Northern_Blitz

                    I've updated my signature with the official proclamation. I did it for you buddy. Thanks for the tap on the shoulder. Much appreciated.
                    As I said, taking the field is a good bet. Especially with doubts about whether the franchise QB will return. Nothing wrong with playing the percentages (although you don't like doing it when talking about bringing in a new coach).

                    But if Ben does come back healthy next year and our D looks even better than it does now, it will be sad that part of you will be rooting against our guys just because it's hard to say you were wrong on the internet.

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                    • Oh wow
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 2753

                      it’s wasted keystrokes to keep talking about Tomlin leaving.

                      These constant updates, decelerations and revisions for his departure are hilarious.

                      When someone pointed out it wasn’t his last year..

                      Them pointed out when we gave him his previous extensions...

                      Those should’ve been enough to get a person to hush up but nope..

                      Doubling and tripling down made more sense.

                      Now he was extended just so we can save face when we fire him? Huh?

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                      • Northern_Blitz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 24382

                        Originally posted by Oh wow
                        it’s wasted keystrokes to keep talking about Tomlin leaving.

                        These constant updates, decelerations and revisions for his departure are hilarious.

                        When someone pointed out it wasn’t his last year..

                        Them pointed out when we gave him his previous extensions...

                        Those should’ve been enough to get a person to hush up but nope..

                        Doubling and tripling down made more sense.

                        Now he was extended just so we can save face when we fire him? Huh?

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                        • Oviedo
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 23824

                          Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                          Northern_Blitz

                          I've updated my signature with the official proclamation. I did it for you buddy. Thanks for the tap on the shoulder. Much appreciated.
                          Wow...that is really a powerful statement and action. I'm sure the Ronney's have already taken note and are reacting now. When you put it in a sig that really shows commitment
                          "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                          • steelz09
                            Administrator
                            • Jan 2008
                            • 4675

                            Originally posted by Oviedo
                            Like we did with Cowher in 1999 and 2003. We followed those seasons with 9 wins and 15 wins respectively. I'll take the 15 wins
                            9 wins with what is now solid defense and a good offense (couple pieces needed) with Ben back??

                            Hahaha. Only a Tomlin supporter would call that a successful season. A slightly above .500 record with likely no playoff appearance or a loss in the first round. Give that HC another extension!

                            Mediocrity is King in Pittsburgh. Bring out the participation trophies!
                            Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                            • Oh wow
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 2753

                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              Wow...that is really a powerful statement and action. I'm sure the Ronney's have already taken note and are reacting now. When you put it in a sig that really shows commitment
                              It’s official.

                              That type of declaration let’s you know what we are dealing with.

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                              • Northern_Blitz
                                Legend
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 24382

                                Originally posted by steelz09
                                9 wins with what is now solid defense and a good offense (couple pieces needed) with Ben back??

                                Hahaha. Only a Tomlin supporter would call that a successful season. A slightly above .500 record with likely no playoff appearance or a loss in the first round. Give that HC another extension!

                                Mediocrity is King in Pittsburgh. Bring out the participation trophies!
                                It looks like you misunderstood Oviedo's post.

                                I think he's saying that we had 6 win seasons with Cower in 1999 and 2003.

                                Then in the years after those two seasons, we won 9 games and 15 games.

                                I don't think he was predicting anything about what happens next year (which I think depends a lot on Ben and / or emergence of a good QB). Although he did say he'd like 15 wins.

                                Or maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're trying to say?

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