Has Colbert Lost All Credibility?

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  • Oh wow
    Hall of Famer
    • Mar 2019
    • 2753

    #31
    Originally posted by Eich
    Disagree. The blame lies solely with one a$$hole and his agent. PERIOD.

    Colbert got what any GM would have gotten in this situation. No one wanted to admit it, but AB was in control. He was either going to get a new contract on a team he wanted to play for or he was going to sit. That leaves the Steelers with a very weak negotiating position.

    I hope that AB works out for the idiot Raiders like MB did.
    Unfortunately this is correct.

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    • Steel Maniac
      Banned
      • Apr 2017
      • 19472

      #32
      He was not in control. All we had to do was sit on him one season. That’s all.

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      • steelerkeylargo
        Hall of Famer
        • Mar 2009
        • 2507

        #33
        Compensation was set at 2nd and 4th predicated on Brown's current deal. After Rosenhaus told Raiders he wouldn't report under that contract the deal fell to 3rd and 5th.






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        • Steel Maniac
          Banned
          • Apr 2017
          • 19472

          #34
          And then we should have hung up the phone. Like Colbert told everbody he would do if not offered fair compensation.

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          • "BuzzNuter"
            Pro Bowler
            • Mar 2019
            • 2161

            #35
            We should be thankful we got rid of him. The mistake Colbert made was extending AB when he did. We should have traded him then for a #1. AB had character issues from the beginning.

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            • NorthCoast
              Legend
              • Sep 2008
              • 26639

              #36
              Originally posted by Steel Maniac
              He was not in control. All we had to do was sit on him one season. That’s all.
              And the minute that happens AB is doing his social media antics while the rest of the team is trying to make a season. And you would be the first guy on here whining about how bad AB is making the org look.
              And if the team fines him, he takes it through the players union. Further media circus..

              Face it. Your solution is worse than the deal the Steelers got.

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                #37
                Originally posted by NorthCoast
                And the minute that happens AB is doing his social media antics while the rest of the team is trying to make a season. And you would be the first guy on here whining about how bad AB is making the org look.
                And if the team fines him, he takes it through the players union. Further media circus..

                Face it. Your solution is worse than the deal the Steelers got.
                There you go “ assuming” what someone else will say. I went on the record siding with Colbert in that if we don’t get a fair offer, sit on him. So stop with your assuming.

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                • steelz09
                  Administrator
                  • Jan 2008
                  • 4675

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                  And then we should have hung up the phone. Like Colbert told everbody he would do if not offered fair compensation.
                  The Raiders called Colbert's bluff.

                  This past year has been a bad showing by the Steelers FO. The Bell situation backfired, non-stop drama, the Brown disaster and Colbert's extremely poor choice of words in his "52 kids" comment. That comment alone is an enabler for Roethlisberger and to a certain degree validated Brown's frustrations.
                  Tomlin: Let's unleash hell and "mop the floor" with the competition.

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                  • Steel Maniac
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2017
                    • 19472

                    #39
                    You sit on him for the entire season. He can say what he wants.. he’s getting paid. They didn’t even have to react to anything he said. As crazy as he looked, no one was taking him too seriously.

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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      #40
                      Originally posted by steelz09
                      The Raiders called Colbert's bluff.

                      This past year has been a bad showing by the Steelers FO. The Bell situation backfired, non-stop drama, the Brown disaster and Colbert's extremely poor choice of words in his "52 kids" comment. That comment alone is an enabler for Roethlisberger and to a certain degree validated Brown's frustrations.
                      The cultural side of this is another issue. But yeah, Rooney Jr. has to realize this isnt 1982 anymore. Come out your office and roll up your sleeves and get involved with your franchise. Lol

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                      • brothervad
                        Pro Bowler
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 1919

                        #41
                        I am really trying to understand the vitriol...

                        Punishing AB was never going to bring him back into the fold...and by having him punished during that year really doesn't give us any cap relief or flexibility. Plus it is a lingering cancer that will continue to hang over your ball club.

                        And tell me if having him take that year off, would give the Steelers any value at all? If your moaning over a 3rd and 5th now, what say you a year from now when they basically have to release him and get nothing at all.

                        Draft-niks are disappointed because they had all these dreams about the Devin's being in the black and gold. I get it. But it was never gonna be and when the Bills deal got nixed and the "play by my rules" crap earlier it became apparent they were going to have to get what they could. Also, we got a 3 & 5 from Oakland when supposedly 2 other teams were in the mix.

                        A) there were never 2 other teams or
                        B) it there were, what's it say that the best we could get was Oakland's 3rd & 5th?

                        I don't blame Colbert for this trade, regardless of what was said or implied, they were never going to keep him here in Pittsburgh.
                        I don't blame them for the extension, if Coach Tomlin said to the Rooney's "I can handle AB, he is just a little high strung." Then you go by what your coach tells you

                        I do blame the FO for being too soft with AB

                        Look I hate to type this, but I do blame Mike Tomlin. He, unfortunately, misjudged, the AB situation and his ability to handle it.

                        The FO and its handling of LB situation also...it showed AB the way on how you can get your way with this club. If you hold your breath long enough and create a tantrum you will get your way.

                        Unfortunately, I am happy we got what we did.

                        brothervad

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                        • Steel Maniac
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2017
                          • 19472

                          #42
                          Brother, we would have still gotten a 3rd round pick a year later.

                          I hear what everyone is saying about just getting it over with. But Colbert came out several times and stated, if I don’t get decent value, then no trade will be done. So he should have stuck to his guns. Now he looks like an absolute fool and players all over Twitter are mocking him and now players think they can quit on contracts anytime they choose.

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                          • pittpete
                            Legend
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 6825

                            #43
                            It call posturing...WTF was he supposed to say?
                            "Hey, anybody want a disgruntled diva looking for a new deal for a 5th rounder?
                            The naivite in some of you is really shocking?
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                            • brothervad
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 1919

                              #44
                              SM,

                              A 3rd next year? After a year of possibly being a cancerous voice in the locker room? Or worse yet, tweeting on SM as he is suspended for conduct reasons by the team.

                              The NFLPA and Drew Rosenhaus lawsuits that would be brought forth (whether they would have any merit, they still would have been forthcoming).

                              I think stating an absolute of "He would've gotten a 3rd next year." is really highly speculative, especially with all the above and the fact he will be 32.

                              I look at it this way (being optimistic as possible) having a 3rd and 5th with one NFL season experience under their belt is far more valuable than even a potential 3rd rounder next year.

                              Plus we get rid a lockerroom cancer to boot.

                              Finally, I believe that Colbert meant what he said about we won't give AB away. Where I think he and I disagree with you is that given of Mr. Big Chests antics and demands...this was as good as it was going to get.

                              brothervad

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                              • pittpete
                                Legend
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 6825

                                #45
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