Has Colbert Lost All Credibility?

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  • hawaiiansteel
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    • May 2008
    • 35651

    #76
    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    Well yeah, they only got a happy meal for AB.
    I find it interesting that 30 other NFL teams didn't offer more than a 3rd and a 5th for AB.

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    • pittpete
      Legend
      • Aug 2008
      • 6825

      #77
      When do you people get it?
      It was the new contract, not the picks.
      Some of you are really thick in the head i tell you
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      • Ernie
        Legend
        • Aug 2013
        • 8470

        #78
        yea im surprised we got what we did given ABs contract demands.... plus his prior refusal to go to buffalo

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        • Buzz
          Legend
          • Dec 2017
          • 8405

          #79
          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
          I find it interesting that 30 other NFL teams didn't offer more than a 3rd and a 5th for AB.
          How do you know they didn't?

          Buffalo was ready to trade us #9 and #40 for AB and #20 -- but he killed the deal because either he didn't want to go there or he wanted more guaranteed money than they were willing to give him.

          Reportedly, at least one other team was ready to make a deal, but backed out because of Brown's contract demands.

          If not for his money demands -- which he should never have been able to get away with making, after all he was under contract -- we may well have gotten a first-round pick for AB ... certainly something much better than we got.

          Like I said, the moment he began demanding which team he would go to and that they rework his contract, the Steelers should have rightfully been able to stop the nonsense by being able to sue him for breach of contract. Don't know if that's allowed by law, but it should be. We should've been able to demand millions back from his signing bonus because he was acting in violation of the terms of his contract -- from all accounts, he didn't have the right to demand renegotiation or determine where he would play.

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          • RobinCole
            Pro Bowler
            • Apr 2014
            • 1358

            #80
            Most of you think AB “made a fool” of Colbert and the Steelers. Maybe so. He also made a fool of Gruden, the Raiders and their GM. Why do I say this? Because...if the situations were reversed, you’d be screaming bloody murder if the Steelers had agreed to Mr. Big Chest’s demands. All that money plus a 3 and a 5? For a 31-year-old egomaniac of dubious character? Ridiculous.

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            • hawaiiansteel
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 35651

              #81
              Originally posted by Buzz
              How do you know they didn't?

              Buffalo was ready to trade us #9 and #40 for AB and #20 -- but he killed the deal because either he didn't want to go there or he wanted more guaranteed money than they were willing to give him.
              Buffalo was reportedly only offering #9 for AB and our #20...not also #40.

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              • pittpete
                Legend
                • Aug 2008
                • 6825

                #82
                I read they were offering another pick also.
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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35651

                  #83
                  Originally posted by pittpete
                  I read they were offering another pick also.
                  perhaps another late round pick, but not #40.

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                  • Buzz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 8405

                    #84
                    Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                    perhaps another late round pick, but not #40.
                    Even if that's the case, still a heckuva lot better than what we ended up settling for.

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                    • NorthCoast
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                      • Sep 2008
                      • 26639

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Buzz
                      How do you know they didn't?

                      Buffalo was ready to trade us #9 and #40 for AB and #20 -- but he killed the deal because either he didn't want to go there or he wanted more guaranteed money than they were willing to give him.

                      Reportedly, at least one other team was ready to make a deal, but backed out because of Brown's contract demands.

                      If not for his money demands -- which he should never have been able to get away with making, after all he was under contract -- we may well have gotten a first-round pick for AB ... certainly something much better than we got.

                      Like I said, the moment he began demanding which team he would go to and that they rework his contract, the Steelers should have rightfully been able to stop the nonsense by being able to sue him for breach of contract. Don't know if that's allowed by law, but it should be. We should've been able to demand millions back from his signing bonus because he was acting in violation of the terms of his contract -- from all accounts, he didn't have the right to demand renegotiation or determine where he would play.
                      A team can't force a guy to play if he doesn't want to play.
                      But the next CBA better have a clause that if you break a contract you owe the team the value remaining.
                      Money is the only thing these players and their agents understand. Hit them hard in the wallet. THAT will get their attention and maybe change their behavior.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35651

                        #86
                        Originally posted by Buzz
                        Even if that's the case, still a heckuva lot better than what we ended up settling for.
                        true, but AB refused to report to Buffalo so the Bills withdrew their offer. can't blame them...

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                        • Buzz
                          Legend
                          • Dec 2017
                          • 8405

                          #87
                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          true, but AB refused to report to Buffalo so the Bills withdrew their offer. can't blame them...
                          Vic Carrucci reported it was more because AB was demanding stupid money and Buffalo decided they didn't want to pay it -- don't know which report to believe. In any event, they were prepared to offer some significant trade value for Mr. Big Chest until he killed it with his outrageous (shouldn't have even been allowed) demands.

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                          • hawaiiansteel
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 35651

                            #88
                            Originally posted by Buzz
                            Vic Carrucci reported it was more because AB was demanding stupid money and Buffalo decided they didn't want to pay it -- don't know which report to believe. In any event, they were prepared to offer some significant trade value for Mr. Big Chest until he killed it with his outrageous (shouldn't have even been allowed) demands.
                            I totally agree...

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                            • Oh wow
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Mar 2019
                              • 2753

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Buzz
                              B.S. AB played the media, and he's played you, too. His situation had nothing to do with Ben's radio show (not that I defend Ben publicly criticizing teammates) ... it was all about coming up with big guaranteed money. AB played it perfectly; he acted the fool and used Ben as his scapegoat, and the media heads lapped it up, because they already hate Ben anyway. Brown forced his way off the team, but more ... he sabotaged his trade value and forced the Steelers' hand so he could be traded to a team that would give him a crapload of new $$$$$. He had no gratitude or loyalty to the Steelers, and basically weakened the team and gave them a big middle finger in the process.

                              No Steelers fan who understands what he did should ever hold him in a positive light again.

                              And worst of all, by giving in to his outrageous antics, the Steelers actually rewarded this turrd, and set a bad precedent that other players will be sure to try to follow.
                              I don’t think he used Ben as a scapegoat. Ben is in record about AB’s route in the Denver game and then had words during practice before the last game.

                              AB isn’t the first nor the last player to force his way off of a team. I don’t think there is anything we can do about it besides benching a player or Keyshawning a player.

                              AB didn’t set it. If anything. Blount set it a few years ago. He wasn’t the first either.

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                              • squidkid
                                Legend
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 5847

                                #90
                                i bet all the other agents and gms are salivating thinking about the possibility of working a contract or trade with colbert now
                                steelers = 3 ring circus with tomlin being the head clown

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