Who don't think the owners will Kappernik Bell?

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  • Steelhere10
    Hall of Famer
    • May 2008
    • 3849

    Who don't think the owners will Kappernik Bell?

    I do. I made a statement earlier this year and then started to back track. But the more I think about it, the owners will take a stand and make an example of Bell, because they don't want others to follow.
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  • Moonie
    Hall of Famer
    • Sep 2013
    • 2516

    #2
    Assuming that to be "Kaepernicked" means to be conspiracy blackballed in some way - which I don't think happened to Kaepernick AT ALL - I disagree with you and don't think the NFL owners will Kaepernick Bell.

    Unfortunately, when Bell doesn't get the contract he believes he's going to get, many conspiracy-minded observers will conclude, with zero evidence, that he got Kapernicked, rather than that he just played his cards like the wanna-be rap star fool that he actually is.

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    • Iron City Inc.
      Hall of Famer
      • Jun 2013
      • 3237

      #3
      Originally posted by Steelhere10
      I do. I made a statement earlier this year and then started to back track. But the more I think about it, the owners will take a stand and make an example of Bell, because they don't want others to follow.
      I hope not. They are each unique circumstances. LB is also one of the best players in the entire league. He makes a decision to take a year off it's his decision. The only thing I believe will come out of this is a sharpening of the rules if this happens in the future regarding league eligibility, team rights and % of salary for future franchise tag if even a third franchise tag can still be implemented in similar cases going forward.
      For all of us who bleed the B & G I do not want to see LB in another uniform without us getting some compensation.

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      • flippy
        Legend
        • Dec 2008
        • 17088

        #4
        It just take one owner to break ranks and sign Bell. But it would be in the owner's best interest to take a stand and not to let players see the league cave like this.

        It would benefit them all for the long haul. However some team will think Bell can help them more in the short term.

        Then again, some teams may see Bell for what he is. Good but not great. They'll look at the scoring tears the Steelers have gone on without Bell when Williams and Conner were the feature backs.

        This is a QB league. A passing league. QBs and Olines make RBs, not vice versa. The only argument for Bell is he's pretty good at picking up the blitz and helping protect his QB as an outlet. But does that make a 2-3x difference vs an average/typical RB? I don't think so and why I don't think smart teams pay him.

        Watch, the Patriots will sign him
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        • Steel Maniac
          Banned
          • Apr 2017
          • 19472

          #5
          Originally posted by Moonie
          Assuming that to be "Kaepernicked" means to be conspiracy blackballed in some way - which I don't think happened to Kaepernick AT ALL - I disagree with you and don't think the NFL owners will Kaepernick Bell.

          Unfortunately, when Bell doesn't get the contract he believes he's going to get, many conspiracy-minded observers will conclude, with zero evidence, that he got Kapernicked, rather than that he just played his cards like the wanna-be rap star fool that he actually is.
          Remember, I said over two months ago that Bell’s not going to get the contract he thinks he’s going to get.

          1. How do you think these idiotic moves looks to a perspective team? At a stripper club? Lying to his O-linemen?

          2. He has a ton of touches for his age already.

          3. He’s only finished one season healthy.

          4. He’s one puff puff away from being suspended for a year.

          Why would anyone in their right mind give him a Gurly contract now?

          He’ll get a 9-10mil a year contract max.

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          • The Man of Steel
            Pro Bowler
            • Dec 2009
            • 2236

            #6
            I’m just looking forward to that day in the future when Bell, like so many other athletes before him, has to file for bankruptcy.
            Obviously the standard is the standard.

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            • Steel Maniac
              Banned
              • Apr 2017
              • 19472

              #7
              Originally posted by flippy
              It just take one owner to break ranks and sign Bell. But it would be in the owner's best interest to take a stand and not to let players see the league cave like this.

              It would benefit them all for the long haul. However some team will think Bell can help them more in the short term.

              Then again, some teams may see Bell for what he is. Good but not great. They'll look at the scoring tears the Steelers have gone on without Bell when Williams and Conner were the feature backs.

              This is a QB league. A passing league. QBs and Olines make RBs, not vice versa. The only argument for Bell is he's pretty good at picking up the blitz and helping protect his QB as an outlet. But does that make a 2-3x difference vs an average/typical RB? I don't think so and why I don't think smart teams pay him.

              Watch, the Patriots will sign him
              They’ll try. Because that’s what they do. But he will go with the biggest dollar amount. Because he’s going to try and save face when he doesn’t get nearly the Gurly contract offer.

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                #8
                Originally posted by The Man of Steel
                I’m just looking forward to that day in the future when Bell, like so many other athletes before him, has to file for bankruptcy.

                Yeah.. he’s already giving money away to stripper hoes.

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                • Moonie
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 2516

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                  Remember, I said over two months ago that Bell’s not going to get the contract he thinks he’s going to get.

                  1. How do you think these idiotic moves looks to a perspective team? At a stripper club? Lying to his O-linemen?

                  2. He has a ton of touches for his age already.

                  3. He’s only finished one season healthy.

                  4. He’s one puff puff away from being suspended for a year.

                  Why would anyone in their right mind give him a Gurly contract now?

                  He’ll get a 9-10mil a year contract max.
                  I'm not disagreeing with you. I just don't think Bell's failure to get the contract he wanted will be the result of some owner conspiracy.

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                  • Eich
                    Legend
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 7043

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                    Why would anyone in their right mind give him a Gurly contract now?
                    They wouldn’t. But, lucky for Bell, there are teams not in their right mind. And the Redskins have proven it many times.

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                    • Steelhere10
                      Hall of Famer
                      • May 2008
                      • 3849

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Moonie
                      I'm not disagreeing with you. I just don't think Bell's failure to get the contract he wanted will be the result of some owner conspiracy.
                      Bell is worth at the very least 10 million a year and if he don't get an offer for that with another year guaranteed, then it will be an conspiracy by the owners.
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                      • Steelhere10
                        Hall of Famer
                        • May 2008
                        • 3849

                        #12
                        From @gmfb today, agents with clients facing the franchise tag have taken note of Le’Veon Bell’s recently discovered loophole and plan to at least use the threat of it to their advantage. pic.twitter.com/XBt5WJtL8I

                        — Mike Garafolo (@MikeGarafolo) November 11, 2018

                        Agents and clients are Watching.
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                        • papillon
                          Legend
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 11340

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Steelhere10
                          Bell is worth at the very least 10 million a year and if he don't get an offer for that with another year guaranteed, then it will be an conspiracy by the owners.
                          Or, they don't want to take a chance on a previously suspended, one 16 game schedule finishing running back. Bell is an investment and just like the financial world there is risk and the rate you pay for something includes that risk, Bell has at least two substantial risk factors, suspension and health, those two items alone have to be taken into consideration when making the investment. If an owner doesn't look at the risks, he/she isn't stewarding the teams finances very smartly.

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                          • Moonie
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 2516

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Steelhere10
                            Bell is worth at the very least 10 million a year and if he don't get an offer for that with another year guaranteed, then it will be an conspiracy by the owners.
                            Even if that is the result with Bell, you have very little basis to conclude that, given all the other factors involved, and the extreme unlikelihood of every NFL owner joining an illegal conspiracy against one player over his free agency decisions.

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                            • Steelhere10
                              Hall of Famer
                              • May 2008
                              • 3849

                              #15
                              Originally posted by papillon
                              Or, they don't want to take a chance on a previously suspended, one 16 game schedule finishing running back. Bell is an investment and just like the financial world there is risk and the rate you pay for something includes that risk, Bell has at least two substantial risk factors, suspension and health, those two items alone have to be taken into consideration when making the investment. If an owner doesn't look at the risks, he/she isn't stewarding the teams finances very smartly.

                              Pappy
                              I agree with what you are saying, but look at Kap. He's a perfect citizen on and off the field and is straight better than at least 6-8 teams and their starting qb. Didn't stop the owners then.
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