Big Ben having a P. Manning career ending season?

[NorthCoast]

I like Brees, think he is a class act and damn good passer. But let’s face it he is a gunslinger like Ben, he currently averages 13 pics a season. Over his 17 years he has 228 interceptions. So even the best of all time does not always make the right decisions, he wants to make a play happen.

The gold standard; T Brady career INT rate = 1.8%

D Brees 2.2%
B Roethlisberger 2.6%
P Manning 2.67%
B Favre 3.3%

[RuthlessBurgher]

Ben Roethlisberger to rest elbow during bye week

Posted by Darin Gantt on October 12, 2018, 8:07 AM EDT

Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger admitted his elbow injury has been bothering him since the opener, and that it was affecting the way he threw last week.

So they’re going to give it a week off to see if that helps.

Via Chris Adamski of the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review, Steelers offensive coordinator Randy Fichtner said Roethlisberger won’t throw during the coming bye week, which follows Sunday’s game against the Bengals.

“I don’t know that it’s completely healthy,” Fichtner said of that Roethlisberger’s right elbow. “But I don’t know that in any given season anyone — or any arm — is going to be completely healthy all the time.

“We try to do the right things to manage numbers of throws in the week, and I know that after this weekend he will get an extended rest and it will be good for him. But as far as being able to make throws, he can make the throws, and as far as practice, he can practice.”

Since injuring the elbow in the first game, Roethlisberger hasn’t practiced on a Wednesday since. He said the pain caused him to adjust his mechanics last week, but the results were poor, so he played through more pain in the second half to throw the way he’s accustomed to.

The Steelers can use the bye week to give Joshua Dobbs and Mason Rudolph more work, but it’s clear that Roethlisberger’s health is their primary concern, and keeping him ready for the rest of a long season is the priority.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/10/12/ben-roethlisberger-to-rest-elbow-during-bye-week/

[papillon]

I just hope he doesn't have to shake off rust again after the bye week. Ben has been playing rather well the past 2-3 games and the game against the Bengals was really good. The rest will be a welcome respite from the season I'm sure, I just hope Ben will be sharp when the season starts up again in two weeks.

Pappy

[D Rock]

I just hope he doesn't have to shake off rust again after the bye week. Ben has been playing rather well the past 2-3 games and the game against the Bengals was really good. The rest will be a welcome respite from the season I'm sure, I just hope Ben will be sharp when the season starts up again in two weeks.

Pappy

He certainly looks better since the 1st half of the Falcons game.

Hopefully time off for his elbow eliminates his pain and keeps it away for the rest of the season

[Disco1981]

I think the story about the elbow explains what I was seeing and thinking in referencing Manning.
Manning's body failed him, and he started to fail on the field.

Ben's body was failing him, and he started to fail on the field. Thankfully it seems like he corrected it and the 2nd half was excellent. But his first half and several other games still looked like he was losing his physical ability...because he was, temporarily

Never getting touched the whole game...Probably didn't hurt things ( his elbow ) either

[RuthlessBurgher]

Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer

Steelers throwing the ball deep less often in 2018. Of 261 passing attempts, Ben Roethlisberger is 2-of-13 on passes traveling 31 yards or farther downfield. That's 4.98 percent of the time, down from 7-plus percent the previous two years.

12h

[D Rock]

Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer

Steelers throwing the ball deep less often in 2018. Of 261 passing attempts, Ben Roethlisberger is 2-of-13 on passes traveling 31 yards or farther downfield. That's 4.98 percent of the time, down from 7-plus percent the previous two years.

12h

seems like an awful lot of those deep balls land out of bounds and are uncatchable

maybe an attempt to be safer with the throws and not risk an INT? But even then...doesn't help if nobody can catch it

[RuthlessBurgher]

Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer

In light of the Derek Carr storyline, Ben Roethlisberger was asked about acceptable times for football players to cry. Roethlisberger says men should show more emotion.

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[RuthlessBurgher]

What's behind Ben Roethlisberger's pace for career bests

8:14 AM ET

Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer

PITTSBURGH -- Through six games, Ben Roethlisberger is on pace for personal bests in passing yards and attempts by a wide margin at age 36.

Save two ugly halves against Baltimore and Cleveland, Roethlisberger has the Pittsburgh Steelers' offense looking dangerous again. A look inside his performance shows that a few things have changed with Big Ben, while a few things remain the same entering Sunday's matchup with the Cleveland Browns.

Fewer deep shots: Roethlisberger led the NFL with 2,033 passing yards entering Week 7, and he did so with volume. Roethlisberger is flirting with 700 passing attempts on the year, far more than his career high of 608 set in 2014.

Passing numbers are up across the league, and Roethlisberger acknowledged on his weekly radio show that the new norm might be 2-to-1 ratios of pass-to-run. The Steelers are right on that mark, with 261 passing attempts to 131 rushes.

This setup suits Roethlisberger as long as he limits turnovers, but many of his yards are coming from short to intermediate passes.

From 2015-17, Roethlisberger threw farther than 31 yards downfield on 7.14 percent of his attempts, hitting on 30 percent of those launches. This year, Big Ben is going deep on 4.98 percent of his attempts, completing two of 13 such throws (a 15.3 success rate).

Roethlisberger still has a strong arm, but perhaps the gunslinger mentality of his late 20s and early 30s is passing. He has talked openly about being a "smart quarterback" and not forcing the ball to Antonio Brown unnecessarily. That's a big factor here, too.

Many of those deep shots used to go to certified freak athlete Martavis Bryant, who's now in Oakland. Roethlisberger is still trying to establish a connection with new deep threat James Washington.

Accuracy over the middle: Roethlisberger is an 80 percent passer when targeting his tight ends, slot receiver and running back this season. Consider:

Vance McDonald: 20 catches on 24 targets

Jesse James: 17 catches on 21 targets

James Conner: 26 catches on 35 targets

Ryan Switzer: 13 catches on 15 targets

These players typically run safer routes inside of 15 yards. But it's hard to argue with that production when coupled with JuJu Smith-Schuster's 42 catches on 63 targets (66.7 percent).

Of course, Brown's presence opens all of this up, and after six total touchdowns and back-to-back 100-yard games, Brown and Roethlisberger appear back on track. But since the Week 4 loss to Baltimore that featured four punts, an interception and a turnover on downs in the second half, Roethlisberger generally has found Brown on shorter yardage throws to capitalize on his yards-after-catch ability while avoiding the double-coverage throws. Four of Roethlisberger's six interceptions have happened while targeting Brown.

Roethlisberger will have even more yards when he figures out the Washington connection. The rookie has five catches for 49 yards despite 14 targets, many of which were on deeper passes. Roethlisberger has at least a 55 percent success rate with every other receiver on the team with at least 10 targets.

More mobile Big Ben?: A Week 6 play that resulted in a ho-hum 9 yards could have much bigger implications for the Steelers' offense.

In the second quarter of a win over Cincinnati, Roethlisberger rolled to his left with three options -- a shovel pass to McDonald or passes to Conner or Brown flaring toward the sideline at different depths.

Easy throw and catch to the open man.

The Steelers haven't rolled out Roethlisberger much in recent years, but they want to experiment more with this to capitalize on his improved fitness in 2018.

Don't expect Roethlisberger to break off Patrick Mahomes-style sprints downfield, but he's still mobile enough to get out of the pocket and throw on the move, a strength that has been underutilized in the past.

http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/29022/less-deep-balls-more-yards-for-ben-roethlisberger-offense

[Oviedo]

What's behind Ben Roethlisberger's pace for career bests

8:14 AM ET

Jeremy Fowler
ESPN Staff Writer

PITTSBURGH -- Through six games, Ben Roethlisberger is on pace for personal bests in passing yards and attempts by a wide margin at age 36.

Save two ugly halves against Baltimore and Cleveland, Roethlisberger has the Pittsburgh Steelers' offense looking dangerous again. A look inside his performance shows that a few things have changed with Big Ben, while a few things remain the same entering Sunday's matchup with the Cleveland Browns.

Fewer deep shots: Roethlisberger led the NFL with 2,033 passing yards entering Week 7, and he did so with volume. Roethlisberger is flirting with 700 passing attempts on the year, far more than his career high of 608 set in 2014.

Passing numbers are up across the league, and Roethlisberger acknowledged on his weekly radio show that the new norm might be 2-to-1 ratios of pass-to-run. The Steelers are right on that mark, with 261 passing attempts to 131 rushes.

This setup suits Roethlisberger as long as he limits turnovers, but many of his yards are coming from short to intermediate passes.

From 2015-17, Roethlisberger threw farther than 31 yards downfield on 7.14 percent of his attempts, hitting on 30 percent of those launches. This year, Big Ben is going deep on 4.98 percent of his attempts, completing two of 13 such throws (a 15.3 success rate).

Roethlisberger still has a strong arm, but perhaps the gunslinger mentality of his late 20s and early 30s is passing. He has talked openly about being a "smart quarterback" and not forcing the ball to Antonio Brown unnecessarily. That's a big factor here, too.

Many of those deep shots used to go to certified freak athlete Martavis Bryant, who's now in Oakland. Roethlisberger is still trying to establish a connection with new deep threat James Washington.

Accuracy over the middle: Roethlisberger is an 80 percent passer when targeting his tight ends, slot receiver and running back this season. Consider:

Vance McDonald: 20 catches on 24 targets

Jesse James: 17 catches on 21 targets

James Conner: 26 catches on 35 targets

Ryan Switzer: 13 catches on 15 targets

These players typically run safer routes inside of 15 yards. But it's hard to argue with that production when coupled with JuJu Smith-Schuster's 42 catches on 63 targets (66.7 percent).

Of course, Brown's presence opens all of this up, and after six total touchdowns and back-to-back 100-yard games, Brown and Roethlisberger appear back on track. But since the Week 4 loss to Baltimore that featured four punts, an interception and a turnover on downs in the second half, Roethlisberger generally has found Brown on shorter yardage throws to capitalize on his yards-after-catch ability while avoiding the double-coverage throws. Four of Roethlisberger's six interceptions have happened while targeting Brown.

Roethlisberger will have even more yards when he figures out the Washington connection. The rookie has five catches for 49 yards despite 14 targets, many of which were on deeper passes. Roethlisberger has at least a 55 percent success rate with every other receiver on the team with at least 10 targets.

More mobile Big Ben?: A Week 6 play that resulted in a ho-hum 9 yards could have much bigger implications for the Steelers' offense.

In the second quarter of a win over Cincinnati, Roethlisberger rolled to his left with three options -- a shovel pass to McDonald or passes to Conner or Brown flaring toward the sideline at different depths.

Easy throw and catch to the open man.

The Steelers haven't rolled out Roethlisberger much in recent years, but they want to experiment more with this to capitalize on his improved fitness in 2018.

Don't expect Roethlisberger to break off Patrick Mahomes-style sprints downfield, but he's still mobile enough to get out of the pocket and throw on the move, a strength that has been underutilized in the past.

http://www.espn.com/blog/pittsburgh-steelers/post/_/id/29022/less-deep-balls-more-yards-for-ben-roethlisberger-offense

I've posted on this board for years that Ben would be unstoppable as a short to mid range passer..."dink and dunk." His problems occur when he forces the ball downfield especially when he forces it to a double and triple covered AB

[RuthlessBurgher]

Ben Roethlisberger: 5,000 yards “still a pretty big deal”

Posted by Josh Alper on November 6, 2018, 2:05 PM EST

With offensive numbers exploding around the league over the first half of the season, it’s no surprise that there are a lot of players on pace for big numbers this season.

That group includes the five quarterbacks currently on pace to throw for 5,000 yards. That’s the same number of players who have done it in the history of the NFL — Drew Brees has done it five times — and Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger, who is one of the five, was asked if that impacted the accomplishment.

Roethlisberger threw for 4,952 yards in 2014, which is good for 11th best in a single season, and he’s currently on pace for 5,120 yards.

“It’s still a pretty big deal,” Roethlisberger said, via the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review. “I know I’ve never gotten there and a lot of other guys haven’t. It’s still probably a pretty big number, but it seems like there might be a few guys on pace this year.”

Big deal or not, Roethlisberger said that winning games is “all that matters to me.” The Steelers have won four in a row with the Panthers coming to town on Thursday night.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/11/06/ben-roethlisberger-5000-yards-still-a-pretty-big-deal/

[Captain Lemming]

I've posted on this board for years that Ben would be unstoppable as a short to mid range passer..."dink and dunk." His problems occur when he forces the ball downfield especially when he forces it to a double and triple covered AB

This is the truth.

[Steel Maniac]

Well, let's not jinx it now! LOL. I want that ball out of his hands a quickly as possible against the Panthers. Hit those TE's and whoever is in the slot.

[D Rock]

I'm not too concerned anymore haha. Besides the perfect game and all the touchdowns, that thirty-something yard throw to Brown over the middle had some zip on it that I've been waiting to see again.

Looks like that elbow was probably the culprit after all, because he definitely looked different for a few games there

[Steel Maniac]

Ben is fine. And playing fine. Nothing more to say on that topic. Anyone who thinks different needs a lobotomy.