Big Ben having a P. Manning career ending season?

[D Rock]

Ben looks so off this year. Reminds me of Peyton Manning in 2015 when he just had nothing left. Manning had 9 TDs and 17 INTs that season and less than a 70 rating. Came out of nowhere.

Ben is just not right anymore. I've always believed there was a Good Ben and a Bad Ben, but this is different. Bad Ben was reckless. 2018 Ben is just not a good QB.

[steelz09]

It's so frustrating. AB was wide open if he would have thrown the ball on time.

He makes decisions as if he is a rookie.

Not only did he he miss open WRs but he's just making terrible decisions.

[Oviedo]

Ben is fine

Career ending? Ridiculous!!

[D Rock]

Ben is fine

Career ending? Ridiculous!!

I don't think he has the physical gifts the way he used to. That's going to catch up with him if he doesn't learn to play more of a mentally gifted game. When it does, it could get ugly fast. I happen to believe we are seeing the first signs of that this season.

[Buzz]

Ben has had his rough spots, but I think he will be fine.

[NJ-STEELER]

he's 14 years into a career most posters thought would last 9 or 10 with his style.
he's not in his prime anymore and his accuracy is probably the worst we've seen in his career.

we're likely looking at this or next year being his last

[Buzz]

But as for what some of y'all said, that drafting Rudolph would put the pressure on Ben to make him play better? I haven't seen any evidence of that.

[Flasteel]

This thread is friggin' hilarious. It's exactly the battle being waged within my mind throughout the 2nd quarter and halftime. To his credit, Ben was money in the 2nd half and it capped the best team performance of the year...maybe the past couple of years. I'm not sure I could have imagined coming out of this game feeling better than I do. I know I'm drunk too, but still...

[Buzz]

Good day for Stillers fans.

[papillon]

Do many of you expect Ben to complete every pass, make every play, and make zero bad decisions? 20/29, 250 yds, 3 TD, 2 first downs running and 1 INT (ill advised as it was) this a damn good day for any quarterback in the NFL. Today's Ben can carry this team into the playoffs. Today's game looked like something I would expect in week 1 after a training camp in which everyone participated fully. I think the Steeler keep improving week by week and hopefully, peak at the right time.

Pappy

[AzStillers1989]

Do many of you expect Ben to complete every pass, make every play, and make zero bad decisions? 20/29, 250 yds, 3 TD, 2 first downs running and 1 INT (ill advised as it was) this a damn good day for any quarterback in the NFL. Today's Ben can carry this team into the playoffs. Today's game looked like something I would expect in week 1 after a training camp in which everyone participated fully. I think the Steeler keep improving week by week and hopefully, peak at the right time.

Pappy

100% agree pappy.

[Mr.wizard]

Do many of you expect Ben to complete every pass, make every play, and make zero bad decisions? 20/29, 250 yds, 3 TD, 2 first downs running and 1 INT (ill advised as it was) this a damn good day for any quarterback in the NFL. Today's Ben can carry this team into the playoffs. Today's game looked like something I would expect in week 1 after a training camp in which everyone participated fully. I think the Steeler keep improving week by week and hopefully, peak at the right time.

Pappy

Exactly right, this thread is absurd, Ben is completing 64% of his passes which is right in line with his career average and he could be on pace to set career highs in yardage and TD's.

[Captain Lemming]

When Ben "used to be" clutch we'd be losing 10-14 in the 4th and he'd score a 4th quarter touchdown to win the game 17-14.

Today he usually has to double that to have a shot. Ben's performances are in line with a typical season. Defense is the difference.

[D Rock]

The problem is that the league average QB output and efficiency has increased dramatically in the past 15 years, but Ben has stayed fairly steady. Others have past him by. What used to be elite is not elite anymore.

[Sugar]

The problem is that the league average QB output and efficiency has increased dramatically in the past 15 years, but Ben has stayed fairly steady. Others have past him by. What used to be elite is not elite anymore.

Wait a minute. You appear to be moving the goal posts. At first you were saying that Ben was in decline (ala Peyton Manning's final years), now you're saying that Ben has been steady, but that's not good enough. What exactly is your point and the argument behind it?