Le'Veon Bell

[Steel Maniac]

nah..

but you are still on my nutz

Lamar put his all over your prediction too.. lmao.

No..not really my friend. Lamar is an even worse disaster than I predicted. Because he inhibits them to ever do anything as long as they think he has "something". Fool's gold.

[Steel Maniac]

Aside from the fact that his game and skillset is much more suited for LT, he was already beginning to lose those skills the last couple of years, and has never been a guy who should line up on the right side. The only good thing about him playing on the right side is that he should have TE help to block an elite pass rusher like Watt, which makes Mark Andrews a highly paid blocker instead of pass catcher.

Let's get Watt into camp first.

[Steel Maniac]

Hopefully Watt is on the field by then.. lol.

I think this could work well for us but AV may also know Watts tendencies since they are familiar with each other.

Good point.

[feltdizz]

No..not really my friend. Lamar is an even worse disaster than I predicted. Because he inhibits them to ever do anything as long as they think he has "something". Fool's gold.

Lamar is even worse than you predicted because the team thinks he is good and will sign him to a second contract?

That is your new angle?

So basically we will need to wait like 7 or 8 years for your prediction to come true while he wins games and awards?

How does he stop them from doing anything else?

You know this sounds dumb as hell when its read out loud.

[Steel Maniac]

Lamar is even worse than you predicted because the team thinks he is good and will sign him to a second contract?

That is your new angle?

So basically we will need to wait like 7 or 8 years for your prediction to come true while he wins games and awards?

How does he stop them from doing anything else?

You know this sounds dumb as hell when its read out loud.

Yes...because he's not good. He can't pass outside the hashmarks. That's what all competent defenses are saying about him. And their playing him accordingly. What is his playoff record?

He stops them from ever winning a chip because he does not/will not have the talent to carry an average team once the Ravens give him that monster contract.

And it might sound dumb to you but maybe it's about you fully comprehending? Because what I'm talking about has been played out several times in this league. I'm just reciting what's already happened.

[Northern_Blitz]

Yes...because he's not good. He can't pass outside the hashmarks. That's what all competent defenses are saying about him. And their playing him accordingly. What is his playoff record?

He stops them from ever winning a chip because he does not/will not have the talent to carry an average team once the Ravens give him that monster contract.

And it might sound dumb to you but maybe it's about you fully comprehending? Because what I'm talking about has been played out several times in this league. I'm just reciting what's already happened.

I hope our next QB is as bad as Jackson. With an MVP trophy and a 30 - 7 - 0 record. Even if he doesn't win a playoff game in 3 years (we've gone more years without a playoff win with a HoF QB at the helm after all).

If you want to argue that giving him a $45M contract or whatever might not be a recipe for success, I think that's reasonable.

But you have to realize that you're foolish for holding onto this idea that you're original prediction of drafting him putting them back 5 years. It's close to as wrong as it's possible to be.

And it's OK to be wrong. Just admit it and move on. People will respect you for it.

[papillon]

Yes...because he's not good. He can't pass outside the hashmarks. That's what all competent defenses are saying about him. And their playing him accordingly. What is his playoff record?

He stops them from ever winning a chip because he does not/will not have the talent to carry an average team once the Ravens give him that monster contract.

And it might sound dumb to you but maybe it's about you fully comprehending? Because what I'm talking about has been played out several times in this league. I'm just reciting what's already happened.

First let me state that I understand your position on LJ that he can't win playoff games due to his limited passing capabilities (currently, they can improve). However, your original assertion that LJ is setting the team back 5 years holds little if any water. If you extrapolate his current 3 year record of 30 - 7 over the next 2 years, you end with a 58-13 record and 5 playoff appearances.

I can't for the life of me see how being in the playoffs for 5 consecutive years is setting the team back 5 years? That would seem to be the exact opposite of being set back. Yeah, they may not win the SB but if you asked me to bet right now, I'd take the field over Tampa with Brady. It isn't easy to win a SB. Can LJ win a SB? We won't know until his career ends or he wins a SB, whichever comes first. Of course, with this success comes a big contract that Baltimore is going to have to pay out and that will definitely change the team make-up to be sure.

So, I'm onboard and can accept your opinion that LJ is not a playoff quarterback (for now) but I can't grasp your rationale that the Ravens have been set back 5 years, when, in fact, they probably have moved forward and past the majority of teams in ability to field a playoff caliber team, the Steelers included.

Pappy

[feltdizz]

I hope our next QB is as bad as Jackson. With an MVP trophy and a 30 - 7 - 0 record. Even if he doesn't win a playoff game in 3 years (we've gone more years without a playoff win with a HoF QB at the helm after all).

If you want to argue that giving him a $45M contract or whatever might not be a recipe for success, I think that's reasonable.

But you have to realize that you're foolish for holding onto this idea that you're original prediction of drafting him putting them back 5 years. It's close to as wrong as it's possible to be.

And it's OK to be wrong. Just admit it and move on. People will respect you for it.

dude went down with the ship and even when they send down divers SM is smiling

“nah.. I have the ship exactly where it needs to be, we will get there soon enough”

[feltdizz]

First let me state that I understand your position on LJ that he can't win playoff games due to his limited passing capabilities (currently, they can improve). However, your original assertion that LJ is setting the team back 5 years holds little if any water. If you extrapolate his current 3 year record of 30 - 7 over the next 2 years, you end with a 58-13 record and 5 playoff appearances.

I can't for the life of me see how being in the playoffs for 5 consecutive years is setting the team back 5 years? That would seem to be the exact opposite of being set back. Yeah, they may not win the SB but if you asked me to bet right now, I'd take the field over Tampa with Brady. It isn't easy to win a SB. Can LJ win a SB? We won't know until his career ends or he wins a SB, whichever comes first. Of course, with this success comes a big contract that Baltimore is going to have to pay out and that will definitely change the team make-up to be sure.

So, I'm onboard and can accept your opinion that LJ is not a playoff quarterback (for now) but I can't grasp your rationale that the Ravens have been set back 5 years, when, in fact, they probably have moved forward and past the majority of teams in ability to field a playoff caliber team, the Steelers included.

Pappy

The prediction has now changed to “wait until he wins most of his games and gets a big contract and then wait another 3 years for it to slowly unravel just like I planned”

[feltdizz]

Yes...because he's not good. He can't pass outside the hashmarks. That's what all competent defenses are saying about him. And their playing him accordingly. What is his playoff record?

He stops them from ever winning a chip because he does not/will not have the talent to carry an average team once the Ravens give him that monster contract.

And it might sound dumb to you but maybe it's about you fully comprehending? Because what I'm talking about has been played out several times in this league. I'm just reciting what's already happened.

his playoff record is 1-3. Meaning he has made the playoffs every year he started.

which also proves he isn’t setting them back 5 years and they don’t regret drafting him.

Everything else is just deflections and irrelevant info to distract from the obvious.

[hawaiiansteel]

I hope our next QB is as bad as Jackson. With an MVP trophy and a 30 - 7 - 0 record. Even if he doesn't win a playoff game in 3 years (we've gone more years without a playoff win with a HoF QB at the helm after all).

If you want to argue that giving him a $45M contract or whatever might not be a recipe for success, I think that's reasonable.

But you have to realize that you're foolish for holding onto this idea that you're original prediction of drafting him putting them back 5 years. It's close to as wrong as it's possible to be.

And it's OK to be wrong. Just admit it and move on. People will respect you for it.

admitting that he's wrong is something Steel Maniac is totally incapable of.

[Buzz]

Reportedly Bell signing with the Ratbirds https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...03df135d631455

Hope we crush him

[Northern_Blitz]

Reportedly Bell signing with the Ratbirds https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...03df135d631455

Hope we crush him

If he can't be successful running for the Rats, it's over right?

I think it will be Lamar that he throws under the bus if he doesn't excel. That will put Felt in a tough spot

[hackjam]

First let me state that I understand your position on LJ that he can't win playoff games due to his limited passing capabilities (currently, they can improve). However, your original assertion that LJ is setting the team back 5 years holds little if any water. If you extrapolate his current 3 year record of 30 - 7 over the next 2 years, you end with a 58-13 record and 5 playoff appearances.

I can't for the life of me see how being in the playoffs for 5 consecutive years is setting the team back 5 years? That would seem to be the exact opposite of being set back. Yeah, they may not win the SB but if you asked me to bet right now, I'd take the field over Tampa with Brady. It isn't easy to win a SB. Can LJ win a SB? We won't know until his career ends or he wins a SB, whichever comes first. Of course, with this success comes a big contract that Baltimore is going to have to pay out and that will definitely change the team make-up to be sure.

So, I'm onboard and can accept your opinion that LJ is not a playoff quarterback (for now) but I can't grasp your rationale that the Ravens have been set back 5 years, when, in fact, they probably have moved forward and past the majority of teams in ability to field a playoff caliber team, the Steelers included.

Pappy

Personally, I think teams almost always get set back when they sign their QBs (Brady and Peyton Manning are the notable exceptions along with Steve Young when he bridged the initial salary cap). It's not a Lamar Jackson thing, it's more that it's really hard to build a complete roster when a QB (or any player for that matter) is taking up >15-20% of your salary cap. The Chiefs and Mahomes will be the next big test of this line of thinking. We've already seen it play out with Super Bowl winning teams when signing Russell Wilson, Roethlisberger (3rd contract, the 2nd wasn't really that prohibitive), Flacco, and Eli.

[Oviedo]

Reportedly Bell signing with the Ratbirds https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/r...03df135d631455

Hope we crush him

Looking forward to "breaking" him once and for all and never hearing about him again