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  • whisper
    Legend
    • Mar 2020
    • 9423

    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    You could see the start of his decline 3 years ago. I told you back then his best days were behind him.

    Can he do better than last season? Sure, his oline was terrible. And still got receiving skills.

    But his days as an elite caliber runner are past tense, he will never live up to the value of his salary.
    Then you're saying he was right.

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    • Mr.wizard
      Legend
      • May 2014
      • 6617

      I don't see any decline in Bell's ability, he is still an elite runner, pass catcher, and pass protector.

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      • Captain Lemming
        Legend
        • Jun 2008
        • 15979

        Originally posted by whisper
        Then you're saying he was right.
        If by "he" you mean "me" the answer is YES.
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        In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

        TCFCLTC-
        The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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        • whisper
          Legend
          • Mar 2020
          • 9423

          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
          If by "he" you mean "me" the answer is YES.
          Bell didn't want the wheels run off him before he could cash in on a new, longer contract. Tomlin was in the process of doing just that.

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          • Eich
            Legend
            • Jul 2010
            • 6957

            Originally posted by whisper
            Bell didn't want the wheels run off him before he could cash in on a new, longer contract. Tomlin was in the process of doing just that.
            No. Bell had a new, longer, very lucrative contract put in front of him, WHILE he was a Steeler. Everyone, including his Mom thought he should sign it.

            Bell wanted to re-set the bar for the pay of a dual-threat receiver. He was thirsty to test the open market. Nothing was going to stop him from trying. I don't really blame him if that's what he really wanted, rather than finishing his career as a hero in Pittsburgh. But it really didn't work out the way he thought it would.

            We've hashed this over and over and over.

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            • Captain Lemming
              Legend
              • Jun 2008
              • 15979

              Originally posted by whisper
              Bell didn't want the wheels run off him before he could cash in on a new, longer contract. Tomlin was in the process of doing just that.
              No argument here from me.
              If I was a running back in decline, I’d shop for a suitor willing to pay me far in excess of my true value.

              Of note, with the Steelers the issue was always “guaranteed” money...NOT the amount of the deal.

              I’m just glad his limitless greed spared the Steelers from being THAT team.

              If he actually played in 2018 he would have been exposed, and NEVER gotten the Jet’s deal.
              Last edited by Captain Lemming; 08-17-2020, 03:46 PM.
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              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

              TCFCLTC-
              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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              • whisper
                Legend
                • Mar 2020
                • 9423

                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                No argument here from me.
                If I was a running back in decline, I’d shop for a suitor willing to pay me far in excess of my true value.

                Of note, with the Steelers the issue was always “guaranteed” money...NOT the amount of the deal.

                I’m just glad his limitless greed spared the Steelers from being THAT team.

                If he actually played in 2018 he would have been exposed, and NEVER gotten the Jet’s deal.
                You have no idea of knowing what would have happened.

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 15979

                  Originally posted by whisper
                  You have no idea of knowing what would have happened.
                  whisper, other people said “I didn’t know what what would happen” with Bell before.

                  I have said and predicted many things about Bell.

                  Time has proven those who doubted me were WRONG.

                  whisper, this forum has a “search” tool. Search my name, and the word “Bell”.

                  Say what you will. Bottom line I have always been right about Bell and nothing you can say will change that fact.
                  Last edited by Captain Lemming; 08-17-2020, 07:49 PM.
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35316

                    Adam Gase's Lovefest for Le'Veon Bell Continues: 'He Is in Phenomenal Shape'

                    Kristian Dyer

                    Adam Gase is at it again, the New York Jets head coach once again praising running back Le’Veon Bell. Not exactly known for being effusive, Gase has continually heaped praise on Bell over the past week of training camp.

                    After a disappointing first season with the New York Jets in 2019, Bell took this offseason very seriously. Not only is he at his lightest playing weight since high school, but Bell is simply in overall tremendous shape. A grueling offseason of workouts, all done with the hope of becoming the Pro Bowl running back the Jets hoped they were signing when they gave him a four-year, $52.5 million contract last offseason.

                    Bell last week promised that “I’m ready to show that this is the best Le’Veon Bell that has ever played in the NFL.”

                    “I think the beginning in camp last year, I don’t know if I’d been able to, to make that comparison,” Gase told reporters in a virtual press conference on Thursday.

                    “Before we really started getting going and then when I see him move around some of the cuts that he’s making some of the, where he kind of has to work his speed in the hole and he bursts through, you can notice a difference in that aspect. He’s being a little hard on himself, but the fact that he’s 210 pounds, the guy can run all day right now, he is in phenomenal shape.”

                    The Jets running back has not been shy in owning up for last year’s disappointing output which included a career-low in yards per carry and attempts per game. While poor blocking and playcalling had a role, Bell has openly said he needs to improve what he can control.

                    He came to the Jets off of six outstanding seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers where he became one of the best running backs in the league and was twice an All-Pro. He sat out 2018 with a contract dispute.

                    “I think I’ve had a lot of success over the course of my career and it’s because I worked hard,” Bell said last week. “I think I worked hard to help me get to where I was. Now, it’s like, I kind of realize, just over the course of the last six, seven years, compared to where I’m working at now, it’s not even close. This year, I’m expecting a lot from myself. I hold myself to a high standard. I’m ready to show everybody what I’m able to do this year.”

                    Bell has seemingly bought into the Jets offseason rebuild which includes an almost total revamp of the offensive line. It is this new and improved line that should, along with his improved fitness, help him get back to being an impact player.

                    But it goes beyond the physical components as the star running back has also backed up the Jets organization and management. He publicly scolded former teammate Jamal Adams after the All-Pro safety bashed the Jets on his way to forcing a trade in late July.

                    Among those Adams lashed out at was Gase.

                    As for Bell, Gase is pleased to see that the running back, perhaps his biggest weapon on offense if used properly, appears to be in top-shape and all-in.

                    “Whatever he did this offseason, he was really dialed in to what he was doing,” Gase said. “He’s been ready to go since we started and he’s in probably the best shape of anyone on our team.”

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                    • whisper
                      Legend
                      • Mar 2020
                      • 9423

                      Originally posted by Captain Lemming

                      whisper, this forum has a “search” tool. Search my name, and the word “Bell”.

                      .
                      No thanks.

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                      • whisper
                        Legend
                        • Mar 2020
                        • 9423

                        He went to a garbage team, with a rubbish OL, with a green QB with a discombobulated franchise. And of course his enthusiasm would be low.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35316

                          Originally posted by whisper
                          He went to a garbage team, with a rubbish OL, with a green QB with a discombobulated franchise. And of course his enthusiasm would be low.
                          Bell knew all of this before he signed on the dotted line.

                          the least he could have done was to show up with enthusiasm and earn the money the Jets gave him last season.

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                          • Captain Lemming
                            Legend
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 15979

                            Originally posted by whisper
                            No thanks.
                            Yeah don’t blame you. You know what I said would only be proven true,
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                            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                            TCFCLTC-
                            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                            • whisper
                              Legend
                              • Mar 2020
                              • 9423

                              Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                              Yeah don’t blame you. You know what I said would only be proven true,
                              Wake me up when you're not boring and predictable. Bellicose forever more.

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                              • Captain Lemming
                                Legend
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 15979

                                Originally posted by whisper
                                Wake me up when you're not boring and predictable. Bellicose forever more.
                                Pretty funny coming from a dude the says THE EXACT SAME THING whenever he’s got no answer.

                                Between you and Hawaiian mocking you I do believe everyone on this board has surpassed their lifetime supply of the word “bellicose”.

                                You know what is the most “predictable” part of my posts?

                                When you come after me, before you can hit “save” you know I will use your own words and weak logic to embarrass you.

                                So be smart, don’t bother replying.

                                Last edited by Captain Lemming; 08-23-2020, 11:49 PM.
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                                In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                                TCFCLTC-
                                The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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