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    Legend
    • Dec 2017
    • 8299

    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    I do too. As long as "we" don't follow suit.

    If we do the smart thing and understand that their is zero association between paying big bucks to a back and championships, we get a competitive edge on stupid teams that overpay backs
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    As I hear the reports about Bell's decline in NY, I'm so glad the Steelers didn't end up giving him "stupid" money.

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    • Starlifter
      Legend
      • May 2008
      • 5025

      I always go back to this for the RB argument.

      quick, name a RB on any of the patriots SB teams.

      I'm not saying a HOF RB isn't a vital piece of the offense. But I believe it's a position that is often over-valued.
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      • Captain Lemming
        Legend
        • Jun 2008
        • 15979

        Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
        It's always a smart move to sign quality players that produced and contribute to team success. Again, it depends on the structure of the contract.

        Players that produce and contribute to team success deserve to be compensated. Teams that want quality players need to pay those players. That's the bottom line.
        This is where we differ.
        You need to allocate the limited resources of the cap in the wisest way to win a championship period. Fairness has nothing to do with that.

        Allocating those funds to what the market pays to elite running backs is poor strategy in today's NFL.

        I've said FOR YEARS save on elite back and overspend on secondary.
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        • Captain Lemming
          Legend
          • Jun 2008
          • 15979

          Here is a list of runningbacks that have played under elite contracts since I've been saying this on this forum:

          Devonta Freeman
          Todd Gurley
          David Johnson
          LeVeon Bell
          Zeke

          Really which one looks like a good move?
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          In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

          TCFCLTC-
          The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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          • Captain Lemming
            Legend
            • Jun 2008
            • 15979

            I've said dont pay elite money to backs,et them walk, invest that money in secondary.

            I know circumstances forced their hand but I would suggest the current SB champion did just that.
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            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

            TCFCLTC-
            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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            • Steel Maniac
              Banned
              • Apr 2017
              • 19472

              Originally posted by Captain Lemming
              Here is a list of runningbacks that have played under elite contracts since I've been saying this on this forum:

              Devonta Freeman
              Todd Gurley
              David Johnson
              LeVeon Bell
              Zeke

              Really which one looks like a good move?
              Which one is getting a ring anytime soon?

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              • Northern_Blitz
                Legend
                • Dec 2008
                • 23985

                Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                Which one is getting a ring anytime soon?
                You win in cap leagues by paying guys less than market value.

                This is most important with QB because their salaries are highest.

                But, it doesn't make sense to do with RBs because the difference between the cheap substitute option usually isn't enormous (much different than QB).

                I think the time to overspend on an elite RB would be when you have a good QB on a rookie deal. I'd probably want to put most of the cap savings from not paying market value on the QB into D. But having an elite RB is probably really good for a young QB.

                It's not something that I think a team with a market value QB (like us) should spend our remaining cap dollars on. There are just too many other more valuable things to do with that cap space..

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                • Captain Lemming
                  Legend
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 15979

                  Originally posted by Northern_Blitz
                  You win in cap leagues by paying guys less than market value.

                  This is most important with QB because their salaries are highest.

                  But, it doesn't make sense to do with RBs because the difference between the cheap substitute option usually isn't enormous (much different than QB).

                  I think the time to overspend on an elite RB would be when you have a good QB on a rookie deal. I'd probably want to put most of the cap savings from not paying market value on the QB into D. But having an elite RB is probably really good for a young QB.

                  It's not something that I think a team with a market value QB (like us) should spend our remaining cap dollars on. There are just too many other more valuable things to do with that cap space..
                  Yes, I've said something similar in the past. Challenge is that teams want to lock up elite QBs early so that window is narrow.

                  Look at Gurley as an example.
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                  In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                  TCFCLTC-
                  The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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                  • Northern_Blitz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 23985

                    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                    Yes, I've said something similar in the past. Challenge is that teams want to lock up elite QBs early so that window is narrow.

                    Look at Gurley as an example.
                    Yep.

                    There are so few elite QBs and teams generally don't seem to be good at scouting for them.

                    So when you have one that's at least OK on a rookie deal, you almost have to make them among the highest paid players in the league when their contract comes up. Because you know how long Buffalo and Cleveland have been looking for someone who's better than terrible.

                    I think KC will be good for a long time because they created a great cap structure for their elite QB. And they probably wouldn't have been able to do it without a pandemic.

                    Just like I don't think Brady would have done it if he was a super high pedigree guy.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35314

                      Le’Veon Bell expected to miss multiple weeks with hamstring injury

                      New York Jets running back Le'Veon Bell left Sunday's game against the Buffalo Bills with a hamstring injury that is apparently at least somewhat serious.

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                      • Ernie
                        Legend
                        • Aug 2013
                        • 8470

                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        Le’Veon Bell expected to miss multiple weeks with hamstring injury

                        https://larrybrownsports.com/footbal...-injury/563575
                        Thank god he turned down our offer

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                        • Mr.wizard
                          Legend
                          • May 2014
                          • 6617

                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          Le’Veon Bell expected to miss multiple weeks with hamstring injury

                          https://larrybrownsports.com/footbal...-injury/563575
                          Ya it wont even matter for the Jets as long as Adam Gase is the coach, that offensive gameplan was awful. Going into the 3rd quarter before Bell got hurt you Bell with 6 carries and Gore with 4 carries, there is no way that tandem should have so few carries.

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                          • Oviedo
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 23776

                            Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                            Le’Veon Bell expected to miss multiple weeks with hamstring injury

                            https://larrybrownsports.com/footbal...-injury/563575
                            Hope he vanishes into obscurity like AB.
                            "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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                            • Ernie
                              Legend
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 8470

                              Originally posted by Oviedo
                              Hope he vanishes into obscurity like AB.
                              Hes obviously not going to vanish as fast as AB did.. but hes well on his way.. he may stick around the league a few more years as a supplementary back.. but his best days are clearly behind him.

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                              • Starlifter
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 5025

                                But he got guaranteed money. He can spend the rest of his life rapping in luxury.

                                If that sounds snarky against LB - that’s not my intent. He bet on himself and took care of his future. My snark is for the jets organization. They continue to be pathetic.
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