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  • steeler_george
    Hall of Famer
    • Dec 2008
    • 3417

    Forget about Bell, the shelf life of a RB is what 4-7 years? How long has Bell been in the league? what 7 years?

    Time to move on folks, go young younger and cheaper at RB. Spend that money elsewhere on younger players or 1-2 year stop gap players.

    Bell was awsome here! key words "was"

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    • Buzz
      Legend
      • Dec 2017
      • 8299

      Originally posted by steeler_george
      Forget about Bell, the shelf life of a RB is what 4-7 years? How long has Bell been in the league? what 7 years?

      Time to move on folks, go young younger and cheaper at RB. Spend that money elsewhere on younger players or 1-2 year stop gap players.

      Bell was awsome here! key words "was"
      $$$$$$
      Would love to have a younger version of Bell, at a rookie-contract price. But to spend big money on this older Bell would really be unwise.

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      • whatever
        Legend
        • Sep 2019
        • 5789

        Originally posted by feltdizz
        The point is it can only do it for so many players...

        mans it’s usually the players that are most productive.

        not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.

        paying someone 13 to 15 mill when they are responsible
        for 40 percent of your offense isn’t a bad investment.

        Everyone said we could replace his production on the cheap.. we couldn’t.

        and here we are with a poo poo offense.
        So if it can be done for only so many players, why do keep thinking that the team wouldn't be hurt in other areas?
        We did replace him fir cheap the first year. The second year that player got injured.
        So, he just happened to have one of those down years you keep saying Bell had. Do Connor is still awesome and deserves his contract and doesn't need to be replaced.
        The coach just needs to surround him with better talent and use him properly.
        How is it possible to have the best owner, best front office, best gm, best HC, good/great drafts every year and good FA acquisitions every year, but only have 3 playoff wins in 14 years?

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27225

          Originally posted by whatever
          So if it can be done for only so many players, why do keep thinking that the team wouldn't be hurt in other areas?
          We did replace him fir cheap the first year. The second year that player got injured.
          So, he just happened to have one of those down years you keep saying Bell had. Do Connor is still awesome and deserves his contract and doesn't need to be replaced.
          The coach just needs to surround him with better talent and use him properly.
          Anytime you pay someone a nice you technically “hurt” yourself in other areas. It’s all about managing the pain.

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          • hawaiiansteel
            Legend
            • May 2008
            • 35316

            Jets’ motivated Bell out to prove he’s now better than ever

            Aug 12, 2020
            By The Associated Press

            NEW YORK (AP) — Le’Veon Bell refuses to make excuses or blame anyone else.

            The New York Jets star running back acknowledges he wasn't nearly as good as he expected he'd be in his first season with his new team. And, he points solely at himself for that.

            Not the playcalling of coach Adam Gase. Not the season-long struggles of the offensive line. Nobody but himself.

            So, the 28-year-old Bell dedicated his offseason to being better this year. Much better. And, he arrived for training camp looking leaner and carrying a heavy chip on his shoulder.

            “This is the best I’ve felt, and I’m ready to show it,” Bell said Wednesday during a video call. “I’m ready to show that this is the best Le’Veon Bell that’s ever played in the NFL.”

            It's a bold statement for a player who has already accomplished so much. Bell was widely regarded the best all-around running back in the league just three years ago, a dual threat out of the backfield who could single-handedly flip a game — on the ground, in the passing game or both.

            But, things change quickly in the NFL. And after sitting out the 2018 season in a contract stalemate with the Pittsburgh Steelers, he signed with the Jets in March 2019 and then put up pedestrian numbers.

            “I feel like I left some yards out there,” Bell acknowledged.

            His 789 yards rushing were the second-fewest of his career, and his 3.2 yards per carry were his personal worst. Bell had 66 catches, but still only showed flashes of his previous brilliance. Even worse were the whispers that maybe he lost a step.

            “I look back on it, it’s like, dang, I wasn’t even close to where I wanted to be,” he said. “If I wanted to take that next step and be a great player, I didn’t work nearly hard enough.”

            A year ago, Bell felt fine, he thought. He figured his conditioning was OK, despite the year layoff.

            “I think I kind of got complacent in my head, you know?” he said. “You have success for six years in the NFL, you always kind of have — I’ve always had something to kind of drive me to be great. ... When you start hearing, ‘Oh, Le’Veon, you’re the best running back in the league,’ it’s not like I stopped working hard, but it’s more like, ‘Damn, I don’t have that edge anymore, that chip.’”

            Once the season began, Gase tried too aggressively to get Bell going, and it ended up backfiring. Opposing defenses knew what was coming, and they keyed in on Bell.

            So, he became ineffective at times, something Gase insisted he “did a bad job” with throughout the season — and thoroughly intends to correct this year.

            “It’s just about getting the ball in his hands and letting him go do things,” Gase said. “Letting him make defenders miss, find ways to get him in open space. It’s variety.”

            The offensive line didn't necessarily make things easy up front, either, with run blocking an issue as well as protecting Sam Darnold. General manager Joe Douglas overhauled the unit, but Bell won't attribute any of his personal struggles to any of that.

            “I’ve been hearing, oh, it’s the O-line, the O-line issues or Coach Gase not giving me the ball,” he said. “Those are all outside things. And I look at myself, like, well, was I really the best that I could be? And I know it wasn’t even close. So, I think this year is going to be a lot different in that aspect just for the fact that I really understand that the past six or seven years, I’ve worked hard and that’s why I’ve been successful.

            “But I haven’t worked nearly as hard as I have the past 6 1/2 months.”

            In May, Bell set a goal for himself to trim down, and used boxing and other intense workouts to do the job. He posted videos and pictures of his progress and says after previously playing at around 222 pounds, he's now in the 210-215-range — something he hasn't been since high school — and his conditioning is off the charts.

            “This year, I’m expecting a lot for myself and I’m going to hold myself to a high standard,” Bell said. “And I’m ready to show everybody.”

            He's got his sights set on a big-time bounceback, and he's hoping for a 16-game season to put all his offseason work on full display. Bell wants to be one of the main reasons the Jets become winners this season.

            Not a reason they failed.

            “He’s fired up to go,” Gase said. “I know that.”

            The complacency of previous success has been replaced by intense motivation, a desire Bell has never felt so strong at any point in his career.

            “It’s not even close,” Bell said. “Not even close.”

            The 28-year-old Bell dedicated his offseason to being better this year. Much better. And, he arrived for training camp looking leaner and carrying a heavy chip on his shoulder.

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            • The Man of Steel
              Pro Bowler
              • Dec 2009
              • 2204

              Bell’s birth certificate might indicate that he’s 28 but in football years he’s probably closer to 48 so I don’t see any reason for him to believe that he’s gonna magically regain his youthful mojo.
              Obviously the standard is the standard.

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              • feltdizz
                Legend
                • May 2008
                • 27225

                Originally posted by The Man of Steel
                Bell’s birth certificate might indicate that he’s 28 but in football years he’s probably closer to 48 so I don’t see any reason for him to believe that he’s gonna magically regain his youthful mojo.
                nah.. he spent a year out of football and then played for a team with the worst OL in football. I believe he had the highest contact behind the LOS last year.

                I doubt age and wear and tear are a huge factor.
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                • Steel Maniac
                  Banned
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 19472

                  Jets O-line was terrible last year. Which is why I knew to stay away from him in fantasy. But the Jets have upgraded the line and added some WR's to help take pressure off of him. I definitely see him having a better year this coming season.

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                  • Captain Lemming
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                    • Jun 2008
                    • 15979

                    Originally posted by feltdizz
                    nah.. he spent a year out of football and then played for a team with the worst OL in football. I believe he had the highest contact behind the LOS last year.

                    I doubt age and wear and tear are a huge factor.
                    You could see the start of his decline 3 years ago. I told you back then his best days were behind him.

                    Can he do better than last season? Sure, his oline was terrible. And still got receiving skills.

                    But his days as an elite caliber runner are past tense, he will never live up to the value of his salary.
                    Last edited by Captain Lemming; 08-13-2020, 02:45 PM.
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                    • Steel Maniac
                      Banned
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 19472

                      If your the Jets, why wouldn't you initially go heavy on upgrading the O-line last year? It only protects your franchise QB and helps your running game as well. That's what they should have did last year. Take 3 big uglies and instantly upgrade your offense.

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                      • hawaiiansteel
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 35316

                        Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                        I definitely see him having a better year this coming season.
                        way to go out on a limb.

                        unless he gets injured it would be hard to have a worse year than last season.

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                        • NorthCoast
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                          • Sep 2008
                          • 26227

                          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                          You could see the start of his decline 3 years ago. I told you back then his best days were behind him.

                          Can he do better than last season? Sure, his oline was terrible. And still got receiving skills.

                          But his days as an elite caliber runner are past tense, he will never live up to the value of his salary.
                          Yep. His yds/att were in decline even behind an 'elite' OL like the Steelers.

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27225

                            Originally posted by Steel Maniac
                            If your the Jets, why wouldn't you initially go heavy on upgrading the O-line last year? It only protects your franchise QB and helps your running game as well. That's what they should have did last year. Take 3 big uglies and instantly upgrade your offense.
                            they did spend the most money but they bought the wrong players. One guy was bribed out of retirement and showed them why he retired. Another was cut early due to bad play and an injury dispute.

                            Also read about Gase being pretty clueless and alienating players and coaches.
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                            • Steel Maniac
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 19472

                              Originally posted by feltdizz
                              they did spend the most money but they bought the wrong players. One guy was bribed out of retirement and showed them why he retired. Another was cut early due to bad play and an injury dispute.

                              Also read about Gase being pretty clueless and alienating players and coaches.
                              If the Jets don't show some real improvement this coming year, Gase will be held highly suspect as far as being a legit head coach.

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                              • fordfixer
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                                • May 2008
                                • 10854

                                What he meant to say was. “I’m ready to show that this is the best Le’Veon Bell that’s ever played in the NFL.”
                                ( for what I’m being paid)

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