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  • Northern_Blitz
    Legend
    • Dec 2008
    • 23985

    Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
    Sounds like the type of thing that Bell turned down and sat out a year for. He wanted guarantees, not a performance based contract.
    It would be interesting if some news outlet would post some kind of average %age of UFA contracts earned by players every year.

    My guess is that big ticket UFAs generally miss out on substantial amounts of their total contract value.

    I think this info would be useful to players since they pay agent commissions based on full contract value.
    Last edited by Northern_Blitz; 08-07-2019, 03:23 PM.

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    • Oh wow
      Hall of Famer
      • Mar 2019
      • 2753

      Originally posted by steeler_fan_in_t.o.
      Sounds like the type of thing that Bell turned down and sat out a year for. He wanted guarantees, not a performance based contract.
      he has both, I’m sure he would like it all guaranteed but what team is going to do that?

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      • Captain Lemming
        Legend
        • Jun 2008
        • 15979

        Originally posted by Oh wow
        .....I’m sure he would like it all guaranteed but what team is going to do that?
        No team...which is why he aint a Steeler...he needed to lose a year of pay and reach free agency to figure that out.

        That Bell.....dude is:

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        • Eich
          Legend
          • Jul 2010
          • 6957

          Originally posted by Oh wow
          he has both, I’m sure he would like it all guaranteed but what team is going to do that?
          He didn't get what he wanted though, which was to reset the market for a dual-threat running back. I don't care how you crunch the numbers, he had to settle for the deal with the Jets and could have done just as good or better with a better team in the Steelers. I don't fault him for trying.

          But there's always a team willing to give a stupid contract with both guaranteed money and crazy numbers in a specific situation. Just look at WR Michael Thomas getting 5 yr, $100M w/$61M guaranteed.

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          • Oh wow
            Hall of Famer
            • Mar 2019
            • 2753

            Originally posted by Eich
            He didn't get what he wanted though, which was to reset the market for a dual-threat running back. I don't care how you crunch the numbers, he had to settle for the deal with the Jets and could have done just as good or better with a better team in the Steelers. I don't fault him for trying.

            But there's always a team willing to give a stupid contract with both guaranteed money and crazy numbers in a specific situation. Just look at WR Michael Thomas getting 5 yr, $100M w/$61M guaranteed.
            He didn’t reset the market but he got a nice contract with more guaranteed money than we offered. He can also try and squeeze one more decent contract after this one if he can stays healthy and productive.

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            • Oviedo
              Legend
              • May 2008
              • 23776

              Originally posted by Eich
              He didn't get what he wanted though, which was to reset the market for a dual-threat running back. I don't care how you crunch the numbers, he had to settle for the deal with the Jets and could have done just as good or better with a better team in the Steelers. I don't fault him for trying.

              But there's always a team willing to give a stupid contract with both guaranteed money and crazy numbers in a specific situation. Just look at WR Michael Thomas getting 5 yr, $100M w/$61M guaranteed.
              What do you think it is going to take for us to resign JuJu in about 18 months? The Thomas contract may look like a bargain. Don't be surprised if we start to see fully guaranteed or nearly fully guaranteed contracts for stars.
              "My team, may they always be right, but right or wrong...MY TEAM!"

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              • Steel Maniac
                Banned
                • Apr 2017
                • 19472

                Originally posted by Oviedo
                What do you think it is going to take for us to resign JuJu in about 18 months? The Thomas contract may look like a bargain. Don't be surprised if we start to see fully guaranteed or nearly fully guaranteed contracts for stars.
                Only position that will ever be fully guaranteed is the star QB positions because of the the scarcity of guys that can really play it. You will never have to worry about fully guaranteed contracts throughout the league. That's not economically feasible.

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                • hawaiiansteel
                  Legend
                  • May 2008
                  • 35316

                  Jets' Bell Eager For Contact, Wants Teammates To Hit Him

                  By DENNIS WASZAK Jr.

                  FLORHAM PARK, N.J. (AP) — Le'Veon Bell wants his teammates to hit him.

                  Nothing too hard or violent, but just enough for him to feel it.

                  The New York Jets running back isn't playing during the preseason, so he's doing whatever he can to be ready for football when the regular season starts.

                  "Give me a little something," he tells some of the veterans on defense. "Go for the ball, things like that, just so I can get prepared."

                  Bell hasn't played in a game in nearly 20 months, a lengthy layoff as a result of his contract dispute with Pittsburgh. He sat out last season, signed with New York in March and is being held out of preseason games as a precaution.

                  The three-time Pro Bowl pick has been getting plenty of action in practice, though. And he feels ready to go.

                  But just to be sure, he goes up to guys such as nose tackle Steve McLendon, linebacker C.J. Mosley and safety Jamal Adams and asks them to get physical. He knows they might be wary, not wanting to injure him — so he'll try to make them angry by running harder, so they'll give him a pop.

                  "I try to do that intentionally just so I can feel it," Bell said. "And, a lot of times you'll start seeing guys a little frustrated and they'll try to hit me back and that's what I need. They won't take me to the ground, they're not really going for my legs. Hitting me up top, things like that, I need all that."

                  Coach Adam Gase understands how important Bell is to his offense, giving quarterback Sam Darnold a versatile playmaker out of the backfield.

                  And from where Gase is watching, he sees a guy who is ready to play.

                  "It's his body demeanor and the way he's attacking the defense," Gase said. "Those guys know the difference between how a guy is going to (practice). Either we're thudding up and they're wrapping up and then when they see him start getting lower and accelerating toward them, they know, OK, he's looking to do some damage here."

                  The Jets have increased Bell's workload in practices the past couple of weeks, and he has been running well.

                  Still, the running back knows the real test won't come until he touches the ball for the first time against Buffalo on Sept. 8.

                  "Obviously, it's still practice," Bell said. "I know once I get to the game it's going to be a little different. But that's something I'll adjust to. I've been playing football my whole life."

                  Bell has been talking to Gase all summer about the plan for how he'll be used in practice and in preseason games. Gase announced last weekend that Bell will be held out of games until the regular season, a scenario with which the running back says he's "completely fine."

                  "It's going to come," he said. "I don't think four plays of the preseason is going to help me for Week 1 in the game."

                  That doesn't mean Bell isn't itching to get on the field.

                  "I really hate watching Sam play," Bell said with a smile. "I just want to be in there with him because I know how special he is and I want to play with that.

                  "Obviously, I know everybody's eager to watch me play. I'm eager to play."

                  That's evident in the way Bell has prepared for the first two preseason games, dressing in full uniform despite knowing he won't see the field.

                  "Yeah, he's out there in pregame with the pads on and dancing around and he's like, 'Let's go, guys! Come on! Get fired up!'" Darnold said with a big grin. "I'm like, 'Bro, you're not even playing. Once you start playing, you can start doing that stuff.' Nah, he's been great."

                  Bell acknowledged that this year's season opener will be different from any he experienced during his previous stint with the Steelers.

                  He knows all eyes will be on him — including those of his coaches and teammates.

                  "I'm excited that when we get the opportunity and it's go-time for him, I can't wait to see what he does on a Sunday," Gase said. "Watching him in practice, that's fun enough. You can tell the guy is a special player and to see him on Sunday, that's going to be fun."

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                  • Eich
                    Legend
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 6957

                    Originally posted by Oviedo
                    What do you think it is going to take for us to resign JuJu in about 18 months? The Thomas contract may look like a bargain. Don't be surprised if we start to see fully guaranteed or nearly fully guaranteed contracts for stars.
                    Nothing really surprises me anymore.

                    It is interesting how teams started to scale back on what they believe the value of a top tier running back is. Bell wasn't able to reset the bar. And now Dallas is playing hardball with Zeke.

                    But top wide recievers are a little more rare. It'll be interesting to see how things go with Juju. The Steelers have been pretty good at retaining top receiver talent when they want to. They might have to start doing more guarantees if other teams are doing it.

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                    • hawaiiansteel
                      Legend
                      • May 2008
                      • 35316

                      Le'Veon replaces his stolen jewelry:



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                      • rpmpit
                        Pro Bowler
                        • May 2008
                        • 2004

                        Well, he’ll never earn a ring. So I guess you can’t blame him 😂


                        Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                        Le'Veon replaces his stolen jewelry:



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                        • fordfixer
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 10854

                          Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                          Le'Veon replaces his stolen jewelry:



                          I wonder if he replace his Girlfriends too?

                          Molon labe

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                          • Captain Lemming
                            Legend
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 15979

                            Originally posted by fordfixer
                            I wonder if he replace his Girlfriends too?
                            He can afford it.
                            They charge by the hour but likely cost less than the jewelry.
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                            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

                            TCFCLTC-
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                            • bostonsteeler
                              Pro Bowler
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 1529

                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              Le'Veon replaces his stolen jewelry:



                              When you make so much money you've run out of things to spend it on.

                              But seriously, the guy has hideous taste.

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                              • fordfixer
                                Legend
                                • May 2008
                                • 10854

                                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                                He can afford it.
                                They charge by the hour but likely cost less than the jewelry.
                                Not when they leave with $500K of jewelry.

                                Molon labe

                                People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf. George Orwell

                                ?We're not going to apologize for winning.?
                                Mike Tomlin

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                                Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you 1. Jesus Christ, 2.The American G.I., One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

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