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  • Oh wow
    Hall of Famer
    • Mar 2019
    • 2753

    Originally posted by Steel Maniac
    And how long before linebackers just sit on that flare out to Bell all the time? You can only mask a bad O-line for only so long.
    it’s one less LB rushing the passer. If Bell is covered, you throw it somewhere else but most LB’s can’t keep up with Bell in pass coverage.

    It’s not rocket science

    This is what happens when a LB tried to sit on a route with Bell


    and this


    This is what happens when the OL breaks down



    It’s funny how fans forget how gangster Bell is with a football in his hands.
    Last edited by Oh wow; 07-17-2019, 10:08 AM.

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    • Moonie
      Hall of Famer
      • Sep 2013
      • 2511

      He wasn't as gangster in 2017 as he was in 2016, by quite a margin. And 2018 gangsterism was limited to jet-skis. What I think fans forget is what a douchbag Bell is without a football in his hands. And let's not forget he's a half-wit - the man actually voluntarily took a pay cut to leave the Steelers and play for the dog-ass Jets. Dim bulb. Many acuity experts suspect his IQ is in low 80s.

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      • Oh wow
        Hall of Famer
        • Mar 2019
        • 2753

        Originally posted by Moonie
        He wasn't as gangster in 2017 as he was in 2016, by quite a margin. And 2018 gangsterism was limited to jet-skis. What I think fans forget is what a douchbag Bell is without a football in his hands. And let's not forget he's a half-wit - the man actually voluntarily took a pay cut to leave the Steelers and play for the dog-ass Jets. Dim bulb. Many acuity experts suspect his IQ is in low 80s.
        He gets paid for his football IQ.


        You sound bitter. I get it though, he made a decision that he felt was best for his future and he wasn’t under contract.

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        • RuthlessBurgher
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 33208

          Originally posted by Moonie
          Many acuity experts suspect his IQ is in low 80s.
          Many acuity experts, eh?



          I regularly meet with a dozen acuity experts every Sunday afternoon at Starbucks, where we discuss Le'Veon Bell's IQ projections for a least 3.5 hours each week. And none of the acuity experts I know suspect his IQ is in the low 80's. Three of them believe it is in the high 70's. Four of them believe it is in the low-to-mid 90's. Two peg him right around the average IQ of 100, one figures he's slightly above average, and the last guy thinks he might actually qualify for potential MENSA membership.

          Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.

          Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.

          We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.

          We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.

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          • Oh wow
            Hall of Famer
            • Mar 2019
            • 2753

            Originally posted by RuthlessBurgher
            Many acuity experts, eh?



            I regularly meet with a dozen acuity experts every Sunday afternoon at Starbucks, where we discuss Le'Veon Bell's IQ projections for a least 3.5 hours each week. And none of the acuity experts I know suspect his IQ is in the low 80's. Three of them believe it is in the high 70's. Four of them believe it is in the low-to-mid 90's. Two peg him right around the average IQ of 100, one figures he's slightly above average, and the last guy thinks he might actually qualify for potential MENSA membership.

            bitterness runneth over when discussing Bell.

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            • Steelerphile
              Pro Bowler
              • Dec 2008
              • 1198

              If the Jet's use Bell as receiver effectively, I would think that would be the best way to use him. I am not bitter about Bell. Players come and go and I think the best attitude is not to become overly attached to players, because their careers can be short or they can leave your favorite team due to injury, contractual issues or other personal reasons.

              At first I liked Bell, but when he exhibited total self-centeredness and complete focus on his payday, I lost interest, yeah. Why I think the Jets will end up looking like they overpaid is that most of his best moments were before 2017. He started showing a decline in his last year with the Steelers, when he averaged 4.0 yards a carry and his ave per reception took a dip also. He took a year off to rejuvenate, but he spent that year smoking a lot of marijuana and engaging in recreational activities.

              He still is invested in emulating the rap lifestyle, smoking ganga and having promiscuous sexual escapades. I don't think this the way to maintain your prime health. These activities will have the effect of eroding his health and athletic abilities.

              When he was with the Steelers he worked with the HOF QB and the offense was very oriented to giving him the ball. His stats were great because he handled the ball so often. I think that scenario will be difficult for him duplicate with the Jets. I think they were be more likely to play different backs and try to diversify the offense, but that remains to be seen.

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              • Oh wow
                Hall of Famer
                • Mar 2019
                • 2753

                Originally posted by Steelerphile
                If the Jet's use Bell as receiver effectively, I would think that would be the best way to use him. I am not bitter about Bell. Players come and go and I think the best attitude is not to become overly attached to players, because their careers can be short or they can leave your favorite team due to injury, contractual issues or other personal reasons.

                At first I liked Bell, but when he exhibited total self-centeredness and complete focus on his payday, I lost interest, yeah. Why I think the Jets will end up looking like they overpaid is that most of his best moments were before 2017. He started showing a decline in his last year with the Steelers, when he averaged 4.0 yards a carry and his ave per reception took a dip also. He took a year off to rejuvenate, but he spent that year smoking a lot of marijuana and engaging in recreational activities.

                He still is invested in emulating the rap lifestyle, smoking ganga and having promiscuous sexual escapades. I don't think this the way to maintain your prime health. These activities will have the effect of eroding his health and athletic abilities.

                When he was with the Steelers he worked with the HOF QB and the offense was very oriented to giving him the ball. His stats were great because he handled the ball so often. I think that scenario will be difficult for him duplicate with the Jets. I think they were be more likely to play different backs and try to diversify the offense, but that remains to be seen.
                Last 4 games of 2017

                69 rushes for 310 yards -4.5 ypg - 4 TD’s

                24 receptions for 259 yards - 2 TD’s

                It’s cool to throw out the 4.0 ypc stat but Bell was extremely efficient the last quarter of 2017.

                As far as sex... he isn’t a boxer. That doesn’t impact his on field production.

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                • STH70
                  Benchwarmer
                  • Jun 2017
                  • 97

                  Bell averaged well over 1900 yards rushing and receiving between 2016-2017.
                  Does anyone think he will accomplish these same stats with the Jets offense?
                  I’m just looking for other poster’s opinions. Personally, I don’t think he will.

                  Bell is a great RB but not enough to make a big difference.
                  The Jets will still be way under .500 this year, so who really cares?

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                  • hawaiiansteel
                    Legend
                    • May 2008
                    • 35314

                    Originally posted by STH70
                    Bell averaged well over 1900 yards rushing and receiving between 2016-2017.
                    Does anyone think he will accomplish these same stats with the Jets offense?
                    I’m just looking for other poster’s opinions. Personally, I don’t think he will.

                    Bell is a great RB but not enough to make a big difference.
                    The Jets will still be way under .500 this year, so who really cares?
                    Le'Veon got his guaranteed $$$, that's all that matters to him.

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                    • Oh wow
                      Hall of Famer
                      • Mar 2019
                      • 2753

                      Originally posted by STH70
                      Bell averaged well over 1900 yards rushing and receiving between 2016-2017.
                      Does anyone think he will accomplish these same stats with the Jets offense?
                      I’m just looking for other poster’s opinions. Personally, I don’t think he will.

                      Bell is a great RB but not enough to make a big difference.
                      The Jets will still be way under .500 this year, so who really cares?
                      I’m hoping he gives the Pats fits next year.

                      I’m not concerned with the wins and losses. I doubt they finish over .500 but I think they will be better than last year.

                      Also, I don’t think it’s about getting insane stats. I think it’s about keeping the Jets defense of the field and keeping games close while relieving pressure on a 2nd year QB.

                      I can’t lie, I like watching a generational talent run the rock while breaking defenders ankles and stiff arming guys. I’m a fan of great RB’s.

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                      • BURGH86STEEL
                        Legend
                        • May 2008
                        • 6908

                        Originally posted by Moonie
                        He wasn't as gangster in 2017 as he was in 2016, by quite a margin. And 2018 gangsterism was limited to jet-skis. What I think fans forget is what a douchbag Bell is without a football in his hands. And let's not forget he's a half-wit - the man actually voluntarily took a pay cut to leave the Steelers and play for the dog-ass Jets. Dim bulb. Many acuity experts suspect his IQ is in low 80s.
                        I suspect the acuity experts could come up with some plausible reasons why Bell made decisions that he believed were in his best interest. Bell wasn't as dumb or malicious as some sour Steelers fans paint him.

                        Bell was a good player for the Steelers. I wish Bell and the Steelers could had worked out a deal. I suspect that if the Steelers and Bell could had worked out a deal then fans wouldn't be sour towards the man. At the end of the day Bell probably didn't get the deal he expected. He did good for himself thought.

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                        • hawaiiansteel
                          Legend
                          • May 2008
                          • 35314

                          Originally posted by Oh wow
                          I’m hoping he gives the Pats fits next year.

                          I can’t lie, I like watching a generational talent run the rock while breaking defenders ankles and stiff arming guys. I’m a fan of great RB’s.
                          it's been 18 months since Le'Veon last played in a NFL game. it will be interesting to see what kind of effect this has on his skills...

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                          • Moonie
                            Hall of Famer
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 2511

                            Originally posted by BURGH86STEEL
                            I suspect the acuity experts could come up with some plausible reasons why Bell made decisions that he believed were in his best interest. Bell wasn't as dumb or malicious as some sour Steelers fans paint him.
                            "Sour Steelers fans"?

                            I don't think anyone thought Bell was especially malicious, even when he was jerking team around like a jagoff, and taking some completely unwarranted shots at the team when the screen door was hitting him. But knowledgeable and informed Steelers fans know what a dim bulb he is. We can prove it, even under today's lightened standards. We are the best. The best there is, or ever will be.

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                            • Mr.wizard
                              Legend
                              • May 2014
                              • 6617

                              Originally posted by hawaiiansteel
                              it's been 18 months since Le'Veon last played in a NFL game. it will be interesting to see what kind of effect this has on his skills...
                              I don't think it will effect his skills maybe his timing may be off to start the season. It will be interesting to see what happens if he comes out and puts up huge numbers and the effect that will have on running backs across the league. Will guys look at sitting out entire seasons as an option to keep their bodies fresh?

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                              • Northern_Blitz
                                Legend
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 23985

                                Originally posted by Mr.wizard
                                I don't think it will effect his skills maybe his timing may be off to start the season. It will be interesting to see what happens if he comes out and puts up huge numbers and the effect that will have on running backs across the league. Will guys look at sitting out entire seasons as an option to keep their bodies fresh?
                                I think the issues I'd be worried about were his large drop in YPC and lack of long runs.

                                The Steelers ran him a ton and decline comes for all players.

                                At worst, I think he'll be a great receiving option out of the back field and in pass pro.

                                But if he's lost some of his elite acceleration (I think fast twitch skills go before strength), I think it might be a dramatic fall from elite RB with patience to escape bad situations to guy who gets caught in the back field a lot.

                                We'll see when the season starts.

                                I'm fine if he has a monster year or if he flames out (AB too). I just want us to be able to compete for the next trophy.

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