Le'Veon Bell

[AzStillers1989]

Good. Make this as miserable as possible for Bell.

My thought exactly.

[Ernie]

Steelers: Multiple reports have indicated that the Steelers plan to use the transition tag on running back Le'Veon Bell, apparently in the hopes of trading him. If so, things could get even uglier, with a fight over the amount of the tag and a determined lack of cooperation from Bell, who would need to go along with the plan in order for the plan to work the way the Steelers would like it to.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ag-candidates/

Hopefully AB is long gone by the time this Bell drama heats back up. I don't know if this team can handle both of these situations boiling over at the same time.

[Steelwolf]

Hopefully AB is long gone by the time this Bell drama heats back up. I don't know if this team can handle both of these situations boiling over at the same time.

Internally they may have been already by the sounds of it, way to many distractions and noise and can't wait for it to fade away.

[NorthCoast]

Steelers: Multiple reports have indicated that the Steelers plan to use the transition tag on running back Le'Veon Bell, apparently in the hopes of trading him. If so, things could get even uglier, with a fight over the amount of the tag and a determined lack of cooperation from Bell, who would need to go along with the plan in order for the plan to work the way the Steelers would like it to.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...ag-candidates/

I don't get the 'lack of cooperation part'. Bell doesn't need to cooperate for the tag to be applied, that's my understanding. If Bell can't find another offer then he plays for PIT or he plays for no one.

[Northern_Blitz]

Pretty certain you're incorrect..
Bell doesn't sign and then look for an offer.
He has to bring the offer and the Steelers can match or let him go to the other team.
If he gets no offers than he can sign the transition tag contract.
Then the Steelers can sign him to a contract and trade him.

I don't think a trade like this will work.

For Bell to sign, the deal will have a big signing bonus.

If we sign and trade, we pay the signing bonus in real dollars, and lose all the cap space of the signing bonus in year 1.

So if a team doesn't want us to match (so they pay the contract and assets), they just need to include a hefty SB. That's what Bell wants and it also defers some of the cap hit for the other team

I think the only way a trade works is if he signs the tag contract and we trade him on that one year deal.

But there are lots of reasons why that isn't a good path for Bell or the other team.

[Steel Maniac]

I don't think a trade like this will work.

For Bell to sign, the deal will have a big signing bonus.

If we sign and trade, we pay the signing bonus in real dollars, and lose all the cap space of the signing bonus in year 1.

So if a team doesn't want us to match (so they pay the contract and assets), they just need to include a hefty SB. That's what Bell wants and it also defers some of the cap hit for the other team

I think the only way a trade works is if he signs the tag contract and we trade him on that one year deal.

But there are lots of reasons why that isn't a good path for Bell or the other team.

If management pulls the trigger on this, then it must have an advantage to it for the organization. So there is something that a lot of people are missing. I trust that Colbert & Co. have done their homework on this; they've had months to do so. So I"m leaning that they know what their doing until it's proven otherwise.

[pittpete]

I don't think a trade like this will work.

For Bell to sign, the deal will have a big signing bonus.

If we sign and trade, we pay the signing bonus in real dollars, and lose all the cap space of the signing bonus in year 1.

So if a team doesn't want us to match (so they pay the contract and assets), they just need to include a hefty SB. That's what Bell wants and it also defers some of the cap hit for the other team

I think the only way a trade works is if he signs the tag contract and we trade him on that one year deal.

But there are lots of reasons why that isn't a good path for Bell or the other team.

Yes, i know that..
Thats why i dont understand why we transition him unless we plan on matching an offer or take advantage of another team not offering a contract..

[Northern_Blitz]

Yes, i know that..
Thats why i dont understand why we transition him unless we plan on matching an offer or take advantage of another team not offering a contract..

And I don't think we'll match an offer.

Time will tell I guess, but I dont see any real advantage to the transition tag.

But I also haven't seen anything that confirms that we're really coming to do it either.

The offseason sucks

[SS Laser]

One thing I wonder. If the FO is planning on signing some upper end FA, they have a good idea where the compensation drops from a possible 3rd rd draft pick. Maybe they figure they will get no draft comp for letting him walk with there FA plans.
So if at all possible to get something for Bell is the idea. Or they are thinking he will not get a better deal then they would be willing to offer? I wonder if they want him back more with the AB circus going on? We will see soon.

[Steelwolf]

https://mobile.twitter.com/StatsGuyDaniel/status/1097725179935961088?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Lolol .... can the league test bell?

[Mr.wizard]

And I don't think we'll match an offer.

Time will tell I guess, but I dont see any real advantage to the transition tag.

But I also haven't seen anything that confirms that we're really coming to do it either.

The offseason sucks

There is no point in using the transition tag unless we are going to match.

[SS Laser]

There is no point in using the transition tag unless we are going to match.

Thats not true IMO. There is a slight 1 % chance IMO all parties could agree to a deal with the Steelers getting a pick and Bell signs his Tag to be traded. This link explains it better then I can.
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[SS Laser]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/nfl/news/transition-tag-for-leveon-bell-explaining-steelers-options-before-2019-free-agency/1ahfu3q8kcw5i1o4e1hcgy9j8u?__twitter_impression=true

[Northern_Blitz]

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/amp/...mpression=true

Thanks Laser.

Sounds like the situation it may make sense would be

1) not a big market for Bell on a big deal
2) another team wants to offer a low to reasonable deal, but is afraid we'd match
3) that team offers us a pick on the condition we don't match

I hadn't thought of this scenario.

I think because I was to focused on Bell getting a deal high enough that we wouldn't want to match.

Doing this would still tie up cap space when we put the tag on him, but if we could execute it quickly maybe it works?

[SteelBucks]

Colbert said today the Steelers will not use the transition tag on Bell. Sorry no link yet but interesting none the less....