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  • Slapstick
    Rookie
    • May 2008
    • 0

    Originally posted by Captain Lemming
    "Family"?

    Seems to me he was "looking out for team" "like family" ahead of his own personal interests.
    And then he stopped. And became a crap teammate.
    Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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    • Captain Lemming
      Legend
      • Jun 2008
      • 16041

      Originally posted by Slapstick
      And then he stopped. And became a crap teammate.
      Terry Bradshaw was reputed to be a "crap teamate" too.
      That "other" old dude for the Pats who we can only hope the Eagles stop from breaking our record......crap teamate as well.

      DUPREE....now THAT is the kind of teamate you want going into battle!!!
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      In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

      TCFCLTC-
      The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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      • Slapstick
        Rookie
        • May 2008
        • 0

        Originally posted by Captain Lemming
        Terry Bradshaw was reputed to be a "crap teamate" too.
        That "other" old dude for the Pats who we can only hope the Eagles stop from breaking our record......crap teamate as well.

        DUPREE....now THAT is the kind of teamate you want going into battle!!!
        Please, don't compare Bradshaw to Harrison. Was Bradshaw snoring in meetings? Did Bradshaw leave the stadium because Joe Gilliam was playing?

        At any rate, the Pats** can only tie our record this year...and, I wish Harrison well...if he can derive enjoyment from his hollow SB ring with that tainted franchise, more power to him...

        Now? JH is just somebody who used to play for the Steelers...I just don't understand why people choose to defend the undefendable...
        Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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        • feltdizz
          Legend
          • May 2008
          • 27532

          Originally posted by Captain Lemming
          "Family"?

          Seems to me he was "looking out for team" "like family" ahead of his own personal interests.

          This "tradition" you speak of?

          Who specifically "mentored" their replacements for months like Deebo did Dizz?
          I think everyone on our team who helps the guy drafted a year after them is a mentor of some sorts. It’s the NFL. When your time is almost up and they draft younger guys you will either help them or not. If you don’t I think you become expendable. It’s a business but it’s also a football team. We win or lose as a team.

          If if you aren’t trying to help the team get better the chances of being shown the door increases.

          I just read read a story about Vince Williams being bitter as hell when they drafted Shazier. But once Shazier showed up they had a healthy competition and leaned on each other to make the team better.

          JH doesn’t deserve an award for doing what he is supposed to do as a Steeler. Once he stopped and asked to be released we let him go.

          JH also doesn’t deserve a parade for jumping on the Pats wagon late as hell. One team called and he signed with them. If he signed with any other team I doubt any of you guys would be acting like he showed us up because he would be at home.
          Steelers 27
          Rats 16

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          • Captain Lemming
            Legend
            • Jun 2008
            • 16041

            Originally posted by feltdizz
            I think everyone on our team who helps the guy drafted a year after them is a mentor of some sorts. It’s the NFL. When your time is almost up and they draft younger guys you will either help them or not. If you don’t I think you become expendable. It’s a business but it’s also a football team. We win or lose as a team.

            If if you aren’t trying to help the team get better the chances of being shown the door increases.

            I just read read a story about Vince Williams being bitter as hell when they drafted Shazier. But once Shazier showed up they had a healthy competition and leaned on each other to make the team better.

            JH doesn’t deserve an award for doing what he is supposed to do as a Steeler. Once he stopped and asked to be released we let him go.

            JH also doesn’t deserve a parade for jumping on the Pats wagon late as hell. One team called and he signed with them. If he signed with any other team I doubt any of you guys would be acting like he showed us up because he would be at home.
            Sure he doesnt deserve a parade for what he did. He also does not deserve the reputation of NOT wanting to mentor when he did it in excess of any of his teammates. THAT is my point.
            To your laast point.....if he werent a Pat it is the haters who would care less.

            People arent mad that he acted up. They are mad he is a Pat.

            I for one was upset when he was cut......before he spoke to the pats. I was not happy.
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            In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

            TCFCLTC-
            The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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            • Captain Lemming
              Legend
              • Jun 2008
              • 16041

              Originally posted by Slapstick
              Please, don't compare Bradshaw to Harrison. Was Bradshaw snoring in meetings? Did Bradshaw leave the stadium because Joe Gilliam was playing?

              At any rate, the Pats** can only tie our record this year...and, I wish Harrison well...if he can derive enjoyment from his hollow SB ring with that tainted franchise, more power to him...

              Now? JH is just somebody who used to play for the Steelers...I just don't understand why people choose to defend the undefendable...
              Was Bradshaw ever not active for a game while healthy? Did he ever not find out until the game?
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              In view of the fact that Mike Tomlin has matched Cowhers record I give him the designation:

              TCFCLTC-
              The Coach Formerly Considered Less Than Cowher

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              • Slapstick
                Rookie
                • May 2008
                • 0

                Originally posted by Captain Lemming
                Sure he doesnt deserve a parade for what he did.

                People arent mad that he acted up. They are mad he is a Pat.
                We do agree on the first point...

                Perhaps other people are, but I’m not mad that he’s a Pat**. As felt pointed out, they called. I am supremely disappointed in the way that he chose to end his tenure with the Steelers.
                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                • Sugar
                  Hall of Famer
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 3700

                  I'm happy for James. He's my favorite NFL player all-time. He said that he was coming back to get a Super Bowl ring and now he will likely get one. I really don't care if he mentored anyone. He didn't feel that the team did him right and didn't say anything for the majority of the season.

                  Since the Steelers didn't think that they needed him, he went to a team that did. I wouldn't be shocked if the skill set that he still has is useful against the Eagles. Of course, I don't hate the Patriots as much as everybody else around here seems to (Brady is a Michigan man like me) so perhaps that's part of it.

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                  • Buzz
                    Legend
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 8379

                    Originally posted by Slapstick
                    They do...but, that doesn't excuse Harrison's behavior...
                    How many times have I said, "No excuse for Harrison's behavior?" Now how about this -- no excuse for much of what the Steelers coaches did in this incident. You shouldn't lie to your players and treat them like $h33t; that's not any more professional than sleeping in a meeting.

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                    • Slapstick
                      Rookie
                      • May 2008
                      • 0

                      Originally posted by Buzz
                      How many times have I said, "No excuse for Harrison's behavior?" Now how about this -- no excuse for much of what the Steelers coaches did in this incident. You shouldn't lie to your players and treat them like $h33t; that's not any more professional than sleeping in a meeting.
                      And, again, the coaches jobs are to manage the team, not worry about the hurt feelings of one player...

                      Is there an excuse? No...just that they did what they thought was best for the team...
                      Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                      • Buzz
                        Legend
                        • Dec 2017
                        • 8379

                        Originally posted by Slapstick
                        And, again, the coaches jobs are to manage the team, not worry about the hurt feelings of one player...

                        Is there an excuse? No...just that they did what they thought was best for the team...
                        Best for the team to lie to him? Best for the team to disrespect him by not telling him until gametime that he's not playing? B.S.. It's not about "managing hurt feelings." It's about being professional and honest and upfront, and the Steelers' coaches were none of those with JH.

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                        • Slapstick
                          Rookie
                          • May 2008
                          • 0

                          Originally posted by Buzz
                          Best for the team to lie to him? Best for the team to disrespect him by not telling him until gametime that he's not playing? B.S.. It's not about "managing hurt feelings." It's about being professional and honest and upfront, and the Steelers' coaches were none of those with JH.
                          Players get deactivated before every game. Often, I would say, they aren’t warned. That’s just part of the business of a 46 out of 53 active roster. If you’re a backup and you don’t play special teams, you may never be active...
                          Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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                          • feltdizz
                            Legend
                            • May 2008
                            • 27532

                            it’s not disrespectful to tell a player on game day. That’s part of the business of football. Players get paid regardless.

                            I understand being upset but that’s life in the NFL.
                            Steelers 27
                            Rats 16

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                            • Sugar
                              Hall of Famer
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 3700

                              Originally posted by Slapstick
                              Players get deactivated before every game. Often, I would say, they aren’t warned. That’s just part of the business of a 46 out of 53 active roster. If you’re a backup and you don’t play special teams, you may never be active...
                              Fact. However, you would think that you'd treat a team legend better than a kid just trying to make the roster.

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                              • Slapstick
                                Rookie
                                • May 2008
                                • 0

                                Originally posted by Sugar
                                Fact. However, you would think that you'd treat a team legend better than a kid just trying to make the roster.
                                In a perfect world...
                                Actually, my post was NOT about you...but, if the shoe fits, feel free to lace that &!+€# up and wear it.

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