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I don't think we can look at the color of a QB and make comparisions. Lamar Jackson isn't from this planet. I don't know a modern day QB who plays like him...who has his skill set. I believe he is that kind of special talent. He may go top 5, or he may fall to the second....hard to say but I suspect he doesn't make it to us. Which I consider a real shame. I would love for this guy to be the next Steelers franchise QB. I do believe he has franchise ability.
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The first drive where Clay dropped a laser in the back corner of the end zone and then they missed a 25 yard chip shot. That pass was insane.
Folks really dont don’t understand how accurate Cam can be when he sets his feet. He is ass juice when he doesn’t and definitely lacks touch underneath but that 15 to 30 yard pass. He has a rifle.Steelers 27
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Please don't bring race into this; Tebow ( Tebum) was another running QB who was dumb as a bag of rocks when it came to reading defenses and his accuracy stank. That's why he's out the league. Running QB's (regardless of color) are too much of a gamble. Get you a pocket passer with a high IQ and accuracy in passing from 25 yards on in and we'll be okay.Comment
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Steeler teams featuring stat-driven, me-first, fantasy-football-darling diva types such as Antonio Brown & Le'Veon Bell won no championships.
Super Bowl winning Steeler teams were built around a dynamic, in-your-face defense plus blue-collar, hard-hitting, no-nonsense football players on offense such as Hines Ward & Jerome Bettis.
We don't want Juju & Conner to replace what we lost in Brown & Bell.
We are counting on Juju & Conner to return us to the glory we once had with Hines & The Bus.Comment
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This can be proved wrong over and over again...."running" QBs translate to the pros as passing QBs all the time. The Only time you dont work as a running QB is if thats all you ever become.
Tannehill had over 100 carries in 2 years, Dak had over 500, Watson had over 400, Wilson had over 400, Taylor over 500.
Just because a guy runs or scrambles on designed carries or not doesnt meant he cant be a passer. Tebow was a bad passer, a notoriously bad passer but he ran extremely hard and was extremely clutch. Skin color has nothing to do with it. Alex smith had 280 rushing attempts in 2 years in college, Luck and Rodgers both had over 160 carries in two years and all were excellent athletes...doesnt mean you just dial up designed runs for them.
Guys like prescott can take off, but I wouldnt consider him a "running" QB even though he would be considered that during his time in college.
I am not saying Jackson is definitely going to be more than a middle of the road "running" QB but if he can improve as a passer he can be a nightmare to defend. Not just a flash in the pan nightmare like RG3 or Kaepernick, if he truly adapts to the passing game his ability gives him all time great player potential. I feel like i question him and defend him between posts, but thats ok i have a lot to sayComment
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those are probably the same scouts that said take Mike Vick, when I said take Drew Brees... scouts don't know any more than us... they just get paid to look at ALL the players, while we have jobs and don't have the time to look at ALL the players.
But, the ones I DO look at, IMO, I do a better job assessing the guys than the scouts...
Who would *I* take?
ILB, Safety or one of about 6 RBs that will be studs in this draft (to be Bell's eventual replacement)... I'd take Derrius Guice or Sony Michel before I took Lamar Jackson2013 MNF Executive Champion!Comment
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Race has to be taken into account when most of the predictions are based on Vick, Kordell or Cam.
The difference tho is Lamar isn’t a running QB. Sure he can run but he has passing stats that are impressive. Same with Deshaun Watson.
Thhis is is why I think folks are being short sighted when saying they want a pocket passer. That’s not primarily what you see in college these days. Pocket passers are rare these days. Most guys can do both extremely well and it’s a bad idea to pass one over because he has impressive running stats.Steelers 27
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That's where you're wrong... I said Vick. Period.
Kordell's an inferior athlete but, similar passing skills.
Cam's a MUCH BETTER passer, but, much bigger, and slower... as a runner, it's like Bettis vs Barry Sanders.
And he's not in Deshaun Watson's league. Watson's a passer first, runner second. He's more Steve Young/Steve McNair type. When he runs, he's looking to extend the play, but, is VERY capable of running. And significantly better with his decision making than Lamar. And significantly more accurate than Lamar.
Back to MY point, he's similar to Vick in in just about every measurable possible. Size, speed, agility, shiftiness, accuracy, even his narrow-ish frame (though I think Lamar's a little taller than Vick, their weights at this stage are pretty close). Dude, they both even ZIP the ball with a flick of the wrist, not the natural mechanics that you see QB's throw with.
They're the only 2 guys i've seen "flick" a 40 yard passes that seem to never get more than 10 feet off the ground... truly a laser!
It's scary how similar those two are particularly at this stage in their careers (i.e., while in college). You'd rather make both of the beat you PASSING, rather than RUNNING because they're both good at the latter, and not so much at the former.
Like you, I'm a little sensitive to the "compare him to the next black QB because he's black" (see: Deshaun Watson's comp, "Steve Young", above"). I compare a player to the player they PLAY most similar to.
So, tell me who Lamar's closest comp is in YOUR opinion.2013 MNF Executive Champion!Comment
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