Robbed

[JAR]

Cooks TD stands, Pats win
Jets TD overturned, Pats win
Jame TD overturned, Pats win.

The cheats should be fighting for their playoff lives, but instead are currently the #1 seed.

BS!

[Docosc]

Raiders receiver just had a catch reviewed.
The ball may have hit the ground.
The ball didnt spin.
No clear evidence that the ball hit the ground even though it moved.
It was ruled a catch on the field and wasn't overturned

I saw that play and turned off the tv. Even the commentators made some remark about "no one knows what a catch is anymore. Just ask the Steelers!"

[WB Tarleton]

I dont have any fantasies about this play.
That pic at Steelers Depot shows what exactly?


Is that after the ball spun?
Wheres his left hand?

You refuse to admit there is no clear evidence anywhere thats its possible the ball didnt hit the ground.
All i see is a dark shadow.
The ruling on the field was a TD.
If there was any DOUBT that the ball touched the ground then it shouldnt have been overturned.

lol It is before the ball spun. This contact CAUSED it to spin.

It's clearly on the ground. You are being a homer.

[WB Tarleton]

From the article posted by your buddy by a writer that HATES the rule:

" The ball did indeed hit the ground in the end zone — nobody is disputing that."

I can think of one...

[NorthCoast]

Listen. If you don't know THE rule by now, I'm not sure what you're watching.
When a receiver is going to the ground within his fisrt 2 steps of establishing possession he must maintain control though out the catch.
James was going to the ground as he caught the pass. This cannot be disputed.

What you can argue and what some have alluded to is Where is the evidence of the ball hitting the ground .for a call to be overturned they need indisputable evidence and from what NBC showed there wasn't any.
Perhaps the officials get additional views on the replay booth. f they do they need to show the public the video of it.

You can't just assume the ball hit the ground, you actually need to see the ball touching the grass without James hand/fingers underneath it

Wait for the release of the images today by the NFL.... (they are busy photoshopping).

[NJ-STEELER]

lol Whatever. Nope. Ball not touching the ground at all...

Or you could go to the Depot article and just look at the pic at the top. The ball is clearly touching the ground, but hey, keep your fantasies alive. http://www.steelersdepot.com/2017/12/jesse-james-td-overturned-steelers-lose-27-24-heartbreaker-patriots/

The ball doesn't have to touch the ground.
He is out of bounds at the point he regainns possession because the ball is movving

[snarky]

I've looked at it a number of times again today and I have a few comments. I think the rotation of the ball is from his left elbow and forearm hitting the ground and bouncing up while his right hand is still coming down due to his fall.

I'm satisfied that it is more likely than not that the ball hit the ground (not initially but after he bobbles it). There is a still where his left hand is above the ball and his right palm appears to be off the ball. So if I had to say one way or the other I would say the ball is on the ground in that instant. But whether or not it's irrefutably in contact with the turf, I would say no. Unfortunately, neither the bottom of the ball nor the fingers of his right hand are in view.

And I disagree that the image on steelersdepot irrefutably shows the ball in contact with the ground.

[pittpete]

I've finally seen a picture that clearly shows the ball on the ground.
No spinning, no speculation, no shadows, no opinion.
This pic shows exactly undisputable CLEAR evidence.
I cant argue any longer that the ball with out a doubt touched the ground.

[SteelerOfDeVille]

we beat ourselves boys. Second to last drive did us in.

both the last 2 drives (even prior to the final INT drive)... run toussant on 2nd and 23... which lead to a punt... get the ball back and get your first 3 and out of the game... another punt. we beat ourselves, for sure

[snarky]

I've finally seen a picture that clearly shows the ball on the ground.
No spinning, no speculation, no shadows, no opinion.
This pic shows exactly undisputable CLEAR evidence.
I cant argue any longer that the ball with out a doubt touched the ground.

Agreed. Case closed. Thanks for posting.

[eniparadoxgma]

This, and nothing but this. The knee hitting the ground was the critical factor.

He caught the ball. **He went down on one knee** maintaining control. **End of catch - completed**. Full stop.

Then when no-one touched him, he reached across goal line. TD, end of play. What happened after doesn't matter.

There is no way this interpretation is wrong.

I agree. He caught the ball, THEN broke the plane. You can tell that wasn't just the act of him making the catch. He made the catch and then broke the plane. THEN the ball hit the ground. The issue here is "when is it a catch". Apparently you can't make a catch, make a football move (turning and stretching to break the plane), and then lose the ball. It's the Colts playoff game all over again. We're getting screwed because our players' "football moves" aren't being considered "football moves".

I understand that when you make a catch, if you're going to the ground you need to maintain control. I don't argue that. I argue that he already had control, then made a football move to break the plane. It should have been a TD IMO.

Say what you want about being robbed. None of it matters...we lost. What I do know is that AB will be back for the playoffs and we soundly beat the Patriots on the field tonight without our best offensive player. I hate that we likely will be playing those chumps in their stadium if we see them again, but I feel real good about the matchup if we do. Congrats Pats for round one, but round two is what ultimately counts.

Bring it.

I agree, FLA. I think we're going to beat them in the playoffs.

[brothervad]

Look we can all agree the rule sucks. But the argument he made a football move doesn't override the stupid rule. Case in point...look at this clip of Andre Ellington who never bobbled took 3 or 4 steps...falls and the ball coughs out.

Ruling is...incomplete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdHKhPZDzRk

I laughed so hard at this ruling telling my wife, theoretically a QB could throw a screen in his endzone 5 yards deep and the WR/RB could take (assuming 3 foot stride) 30 steps and fall with no one touching him...cough up the ball and according to this stupid ass rule it could be considered incomplete.

The NFL is so messed up.

Brothervad

[feltdizz]

Look we can all agree the rule sucks. But the argument he made a football move doesn't override the stupid rule. Case in point...look at this clip of Andre Ellington who never bobbled took 3 or 4 steps...falls and the ball coughs out.

Ruling is...incomplete.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdHKhPZDzRk

I laughed so hard at this ruling telling my wife, theoretically a QB could throw a screen in his endzone 5 yards deep and the WR/RB could take (assuming 3 foot stride) 30 steps and fall with no one touching him...cough up the ball and according to this stupid ass rule it could be considered incomplete.

The NFL is so messed up.

Brothervad

just feels like a rule made to screw teams over. Especially when I see the Cook catch in the end zone vs the Texans that was ruled a TD.

[brothervad]

Yep I agree. Funny it the calls go the other way in the Jets/Texans/Steelers games the Pats are 8-6 and just vying for a playoff spot. And people wonder why the NFL is losing fans.

Brothervad

[Eddie Spaghetti]

they certainly seem to have benefited both ways from the same dumba%% rule